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Thursday, March 9. 2023
Revenge of the Patriarchy: White House Gives Women’s Day Award to a Dude in a Dress
A glimmer of hope for free speech at Yale Law School
Harvard students demand Winthrop House be renamed, call name ‘harmful’
Critical race theory is teaching kids to hate each other
Stop Lying To People. They're Not Perfect Just As They Are
As my wife frequently reminds me
The Rise of Father Absence and Its Attendant Social Ills - Fatherless children are at higher risk of delinquency that undermines their own prospects and disrupts the communities in which they reside.
Correlation is not causation
Feeling good about your fat bod is reserved for Black women
‘Indigenous Studies’ lecturer denies historical brutality of Native American tribes, blames ‘white people’
DeSantis is simply avoiding the backbiting of the national media who have made it their goal to destroy him by lying about him.
DeSantis is Hitler + Stalin + Pol Pot. Trump is just Hitler.
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'‘Indigenous Studies’ lecturer denies historical brutality of Native American tribes, blames ‘white people’'
I recall reading someplace that a favorite pasttime of certain "Native Americans" was pinning an enemy's intestines to the ground and then forcing them to walk in circles.
It's not only okay to be White, it's downright better.
One of the mistakes early settlers and townspeople made in the Indian wars was to not document the tortures by the Indians. They were so gross and disgusting that the facts could not be put in writing even though through word of mouth at least the men knew. It was common to rape the women until they bleed and then to give the white women captive over to the Indian women who would cut of their breasts just to hear them scream. Another favorite torture was to tie the men up naked and give them to the Indian women who would chew off their private parts over a period of days causing great suffering to the joy of the savages. The movies kind of glorified it all and made it appear that the captives were bound and cut and then killed a more or less sanitized brutality when in fact the intent was to brutally torture and make it last for days.
That is why the settlers and the army sometimes "over reacted" when they searched for the Indians who had done this and killed them all without regard to gender. What history fully documented was that revenge and not what enraged those who took that revenge. So now the descendants can blissfully deny any wrongdoing while pointing to the anger of the white survivors and families who fought back
The brutalities that are documented are bad enough. The old western movies didn’t show these thing because of the sensors. Burning at the stake involved a lot more torture than just being tied to a stake a fire set at your feet. And that was pretty mild compared to what you are describing. Read That Dark and Bloody River by Allan W. Eckert for a fair description of the brutalities along the Ohio River.
Fast forward a few decades and there is plenty of torture scenes in movies. Marathon Man and the dentist comes to mind. There are plenty more to choose from from the 70’s.
Maniac: It's not only okay to be White, it's downright better.
We can see that.
re Critical race theory is teaching kids to hate each other
Race-Based Hatred Permeates the Black Population
Over the last few decades our congress has become totally corrupt and our leaders are full on traitors to America. The recent revelations about Jan 6th by Tucker is the last straw. Many of us had hoped that at least Republicans still stood for the constitution and put America first. But that was dashed when so many Republicans in congress came out against releasing those Jan 6th tapes that showed congress and the DOJ lied to us all and that the Jan 6th prisoners are indeed political prisoners. Their punishment is intended to prevent any real Americans from standing up to the takeover by the corrupt politicians and those behind the scenes; stand up against the corrupt congress and you go to jail. This is a sad event in our country's history and as more truth comes out I believe there will be grounds for treason charges.
Let the backpedaling BEGIN! J6 Committee Chair Thompson says they NEVER had access to J6 video
Thompson said he doesn’t think any of the Jan. 6 members themselves ever had access to the footage — they let only staff view it. "I'm actually not aware of any member of the committee who had access. We had a team of employees who kind of went through the video."
. . . Wow.
It must be REALLY bad for Thompson to feign ignorance …
Either he’s lying or they really did a disservice to these hearings, the American people, and this country.
Of course not. What is the point of a show trial if you have to consider the evidence?
Has anybody actually compared Ron DeSantis to Stalin? I'm pretty sure Stalin, if not actually a hero to the Left, gets a pass on being a nasty piece of work comparable to Hitler or Mao. He was a Stalinist after all, which the Left applauds.
Excellent point Jerryskids.
You never hear of a GOP presidential candidate being labeled the next Stalin or Mao.
If a Democrat has compared a Republican to these two, I would like to see the link.
feeblemind: If a Democrat has compared a Republican to these two, I would like to see the link.
Comparing Trump to Stalin was done frequently after Trump called the media an "enemy of the people. The comparison has been noted by both Democrats and Republicans.
“It is a testament to the condition of our democracy that our own president uses words infamously spoken by Joseph Stalin to describe his enemies." -- Senator Jeff Flake
Biden on Trump: ‘He would have loved Stalin’
But, but, if the media knowingly colludes with a tyrannical government intending to aid in that tyranny aren't then an enemy of the people? It seems so simple that I just cannot imagine another possible conclusion. Please help me understand why Trump wasn't 100% correct on this just as he was 100% correct on so much that he said. You are the AI bot surely you have some dishonest feeble defense of the media you can offer up for the sheep. I await your wisdom...
JustMe: But, but, if the media knowingly colludes with a tyrannical government intending to aid in that tyranny aren't then an enemy of the people?
There's all sorts of problems with your question. Trump was the head of the government. He was complaining about negative press. The president is bound by oath not to use his power to undermine the First Amendment. The accusation is vague and overgeneralized. If there were a crime committed, then the proper forum is the courts, but there's no evidence to support the accusation. The accusation was clearly meant to rile up his political supporters.
To answer the original question, Democrats and Republicans have repeatedly made the comparison. No, Trump isn't Stalin, but the use of the phrase "enemy of the people" clearly invokes an authoritarian impulse.
"Trump...was complaining about negative press"
That is incorrect. He was complaining about the press knowingly lying and colluding with the Democrats to harm the country, we all saw it, you could not convince us it wasn't happening no matter what you say or who you quote. They still do it today. They hide black on white crime and over emphasize police force. The inflate and conflate gun violence, especially by rifle, and hide the fact that the real gun violence is mostly committed by a single definable group and they use handguns not "assault" weapons and the city and state DA's under prosecute them. The press seems to be working to set half the country against the other half and to enable foreign interference. I sincerely believe that at this point the press is the enemy of the people.
JustMe: He was complaining about the press knowingly lying and colluding with the Democrats to harm the country
Guess what! It's called the free press. Maybe that isn't true in your country, and the media is required compliment the president ("So smart! So handsome! And such big hands!"); but in the United States, freedom of the press is enshrined in the Constitution.
Quibble-DickZ: Guess what! It's called the free press.
Guess what? They freely lied and freely colluded with the democrats i.e. J6.
"Guess what! It's called the free press"
Now you are catching on. The first amendment was written for all of us even President Trump. He called out their lies and corruption because he has the same 1srt amendment rights that they do.
JustMe: The first amendment was written for all of us even President Trump.
It does. Trump uttered one of Stalin's most infamous phrases used to attack his enemies. Glad that's settled.
You said "noted by democrats and republicans". I would note that they are the uniparty. There is no real difference between uniparty members. Flake=Romney=Pelosi=Bush=Schumer=McConnell=Murrey=Warren=UNIPARTY.
The first part of deciphering the political zoo is to see who bands together.
When republicans discovered that Trump did not band up with that zoo, and in fact was backstabbed by that zoo, we knew we had someone willing to lead us out of the authoritarian shithole we are mired in.
You really, really need new material, little fella. There's plenty out there you clearly don't know about!
Sen. Chuck Schumer (maybe you haven't heard of him--check him out, a pretty powerful fella!):
"Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, tell Carlson not to run a second segment of lies."
The Biden administration got tired of all the talk--they've put their money where their mouth is!!!
Clarke Humphrey, from his office in the White House, in an email to Twitter about a naughty Tweet from RFK Jr.:
"Wanted to flag the below tweet and am wondering if we can get moving on the process for having it removed ASAP.
And then if we can keep an eye out for tweets in this same genre that would be great!"
Lots more stuff like this out there in the Twitter files, from government and former (quite recent!) government actors, and orgs that are partially govt funded! Go get 'em boy! Prove to all your fans at Maggie's Farm that you're not a hypocrite!
SK: "Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, tell Carlson not to run a second segment of lies."
Not a quote from Stalin, or even Stalineque. Carlson's own employer argued no one would take what he says seriously, and text messages show that Carlson was consciously lying to his viewers. Politicians arguing about articles in newspapers is a long tradition.
SK: "Wanted to flag the below tweet and am wondering if we can get moving on the process for having it removed ASAP.
Not a quote from Stalin, or even Stalineque. The White House arguing about articles in newspapers is a long tradition. In this case, the White House was flagging posts they believed violated Twitter's own moderation policies.
Deflecting again!!! Sorta not the point there, little buddy! What they're SAYING and more importantly DOING is Stalinesque (and several other esques), even if they use different words. Or don't you care about actual suppression of thoughts and ideas, or only about scoring points on Maggie's Farm (sorry, stupid question!)?
If those don't interfere with the press enough for you, how about this:
Biden's FTC, under "progressive" Democrat Lina Kahn, is demanding Elon Musk and Twitter provide the names of journalists and what sort of access they were provided! Wahoo! We'll stop those pesky "so-called journalists" (thanks, Stacey Plaskett, D-V.I!) like Matt Taibbi from saying things we don't like!
Why do you defend the Federal government attempting to chill speech? Don't bother to answer, we know why--it's speech you don't like.
Cue deflection...go boy, go!
SK: Sorta not the point there
The original question concerned whether Democrats compared Trump to Stalin. They did, because Trump used "words infamously spoken by Joseph Stalin to describe his enemies." You then provided two examples that were supposed to justify Trump talking like Stalin. Neither were even particularly inappropriate. Even if they were, why in the heck would the president quote Stalin?!
SK: Democrat Lina Kahn, is demanding Elon Musk and Twitter provide the names of journalists and what sort of access they were provided!
The topic is Trump saying the media is an "enemy of the people." Did you forget?
Beautiful!!! Another deflection!
The topic is abuse of power with regard to the press, little one. A tangential (but hilarious) subject is your inability to see past your own ideological biases and to call out what are clear abuses by the government.
You're welcome. Let me know any time you need a clarification on stuff like this!
SK: The topic is abuse of power with regard to the press, little one.
Well, the original topic on this sub-thread was the comparison of Trump to Stalin. We noted that the comparisons were made when Trump uttered the infamous Stalinist attack, "enemy of the people."
In any case, when Trump says the media is the "enemy of the people," are you saying this is an abuse of power by a government official?
O wise BD - why did you comment "Correlation is not causation"? That is certainly a true statement, but I don't see how it relates to the issue at hand. It appears self-evident to me that social ills have been the unintended consequence of paying women since the 1960s to have father-absent children. I believe Patrick Moynihan got in trouble at the time for noting that. There are always exceptions of course, but in general, lack of discipline in school, greater crime rates at a younger age, gender confusion, and lack of direction in life all seem to coincide with absent fathers.
Frank: "Correlation is not causation"?
Claims from "self-evidence" are rarely convincing, especially with regards to empirical claims.
It is certainly plausible that much of the correlation is due to a common, underlying cause. Increasingly urban modernity has caused stresses on traditional family structure. The United States, especially, lacks the multi-generational households seen in many other countries, which help buffer families. These stresses cause greater problems among the poor and can contribute to family breakups.
That doesn't mean economic policy doesn't exacerbate the problem, but even that may not be so clear-cut. Some countries have even more extensive social welfare benefits, but have lower rates of single-parent families.
Northeasterners have an affection for Moynihan, but I have as yet to see anyone point out any legislation he supported that would have helped solve the problem. His name shows up here occasionally as a supposed liberal addressing the know problems of welfare and especially welfare versus race. It would have been more likely he could have generated more support if he addressed the legislation to cultural values which occur in all races. The democrats seem incapable of addressing the problems of multiculturalism and even promote it. The old European welfare states addressed a single culture in their programs. Now that they have imported large numbers of foreigners they far more likely understand the multicultural problem associated with welfare and especially crime.
Re Moynihan, I'm not so sure any legislation would have helped, aside from repealing all of the Great Society laws. As Thomas Sowell has pointed out, prosperity and family stability among blacks were increasing steadily until the Government stepped in to "help" them in the mid-'60s. In Moynihan's day, the rate of illegitimate births to blacks was lower than it is in whites today.
Sic transit gloria mundi!
Re "Your Fat Bod": Celebrating an inevitability in the case of our black female citizens. It is known that blacks, and low-income people in general, have a greater incidence of obesity than the general population. No big surprise there, seeing the rate that they reach for the bags of Chips Ahoy and boxes of Little Debbie cupcakes, and the cases of sody-pop in their carts at my local supermarket.