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Tuesday, January 17. 2023

Tuesday morning links

 It’s Time to Get Serious. Prevailing wisdom insists that your twenties are for extreme exploration—collecting memories, friends, partners, identities. It’s BS.


 America doesn't do well in helping people peacefully pass on


 America ‘Most Permissive Country’ For Sex Change Surgeries, Study Shows


 How to Regulate Pediatric Gender Medicine - Pursuing bans on drugs and surgeries may not be the most pragmatic approach—lawmakers hoping to reverse the medicalization of youth should instead consider these eight avenues.


First They Came For My Showerhead And I Did Nothing, Then They Came For My Light Bulbs And I Did Nothing, Now They Want My Gas Stove And …


 FDA’s Medical Interference


 OUR INSANE RACIAL CLASSIFICATIONS


 A World Without Affirmative Action - We need creative thinking and real problem solving to address inequality in education.


 Youngkin goes ballistic on equity and what schools do to achieve it vice excellence


Facebook Admits To Suppressing “Often-True Content” At WH Request


All The President's Men: Biden's Use Of Lawyers Raises Additional Concerns Over Handling Classified Material


 NYC Mayor Says His City Has “No Room” For Illegal Immigrants During Border Visit…

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The ATF can’t wait to see you at the 2023 SHOT Show in Las Vegas

That's akin to the KKK having a booth at a NAACP convention.

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2023/01/16/the-atf-cant-wait-to-see-you-at-the-2023-shot-show-in-las-vegas/
#1 feeblemind on 2023-01-17 09:38 (Reply)
The ATF was weaponized (no pun intended). Most of what Biden is doing rhymes with German history of the 1930's. Gun confiscation was a key part of Nazi planning.
#1.1 JustMe on 2023-01-17 09:47 (Reply)
Worse than Watergate. Let's not forget that Nixon's big crime was to try to cover-up a break-in that he had nothing to do with out of fear that it would impact his re-election. Biden's "Watergate" is different in that he did commit the crime and he did cover it up so it wouldn't impact his election. Now Biden's "crime" has expanded to at least three separate criminal possessions of classified documents. Will there be more? Has some of this already been successfully hidden from discovery? Was his intent to share these documents with China? Was his intent to hide these documents because they showed his own criminal activity in Ukraine? The facts are dribbling out and the corrupt DOJ has appointed a special prosecutor who is known to be biased in an obvious attempt to further cover up these crimes. What's next? Blame it all on Trump.
#2 OneGuy on 2023-01-17 09:44 (Reply)
OneGuy: Biden's "Watergate" is different in that he did commit the crime and he did cover it up so it wouldn't impact his election.

Huh? When the documents were discovered, Biden's team immediately contacted the proper authorities and surrendered the documents. They then conducted a more thorough search, finding, reporting, and surrendering those documents to the proper authorities, as well.

OneGuy: The facts are dribbling out and the corrupt DOJ has appointed a special prosecutor who is known to be biased in an obvious attempt to further cover up these crimes.

The Special Counsel, Robert Hur, had been appointed U.S. Attorney by Trump.
#2.1 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 10:29 (Reply)
Thank you for supporting my point by your fake fact checking.

Biden hid the discovery of the top secret documents until well after the election of that there is no doubt. AG Garland appoint Hur to tie this up for a couple of years so no more information can leak to the press and to make it appear that the matter is being handled appropriately. Had there only been one tranche of mishandled/compromised documents THAT might have worked. But as the number of stolen documents grows we are going to need a bigger bushel basket to hide it all from the public.
#2.1.1 OneGuy on 2023-01-17 11:05 (Reply)
OneGuy: Biden hid the discovery of the top secret documents until well after the election of that there is no doubt.

They immediately contacted the proper authorities. What action did they take which could be construed as a cover-up?
#2.1.2 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 11:10 (Reply)
For me, it's the fact that the FBI does not appear to be involved with this in any way. Having Biden's own lawyers 'inspecting' the documents reeks of a coverup. Who exactly are these lawyers? What security clearance do they have?
#2.1.2.1 RJP on 2023-01-17 12:50 (Reply)
RJP: Who exactly are these lawyers? What security clearance do they have?

The original lawyers didn't have proper security clearances, so were replaced with others who did. If the official is cooperating, the government will not usually intervene. In this case, however, DOJ officials were involved.

QUOTE:
Sauber said in a statement Saturday that Biden’s personal lawyers, who did not have security clearances, stopped their search after finding the first page on Wednesday evening. Sauber found the remaining material Thursday, as he was facilitating their retrieval by the Department of Justice.

“While I was transferring it to the DOJ officials who accompanied me, five additional pages with classification markings were discovered among the material with it, for a total of six pages,” Sauber said. “The DOJ officials with me immediately took possession of them.”

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/lawyers-found-more-classified-documents-at-bidens-home-than-previously-stated

That's what is supposed to happen. With Trump, he resisted turning over government documents, including those marked classified. When subpoenaed, Trump's attorney attested that they had surrendered all documents marked classified. But the FBI had evidence that documents marked classified were being moved, evidence sufficient to constitute probable cause. The court issued an order, and the FBI found numerous documents marked classified.
#2.1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 13:26 (Reply)
Think you've repeated that misinterpretation (lie) of the facts too often, Quibble-DickZ..
#2.1.2.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2023-01-17 14:10 (Reply)
Utterly amazing the hoops that fool will jump through in making excuses for the authoritarian left.
#2.1.2.1.1.1.1 B. Hammer on 2023-01-17 16:33 (Reply)
The Biden administration purposely withheld the fact that six years ago Biden took classified documents out of a classified setting and left them in an unsecured area in a public building - and did not remember doing it - until January even though the documents were discovered before the mid-term elections. I’m not aware of any explanation for the delay in releasing that information. Nor am I aware of any explanation from NARA which had gone out of its way to had claim that it had possession of all documents from the Obama administration
#2.1.3 mudbug on 2023-01-17 11:17 (Reply)
mudbug: The Biden administration purposely withheld the fact that six years ago Biden took classified documents out of a classified setting and left them in an unsecured area in a public building - and did not remember doing it - until January even though the documents were discovered before the mid-term elections.

So? They weren't required to inform the public. They were required to inform the proper authorities.

mudbug: Nor am I aware of any explanation from NARA which had gone out of its way to had claim that it had possession of all documents from the Obama administration

They answered questions raised by conspiracy theorists. So?
#2.1.4 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 12:12 (Reply)
This is what the left has fallen to. Biden broke laws, sold secrets to China, covered up his crimes and now as it comes to light the left is stuck with "yada, yada, yada, SO!".
#2.1.4.1 OneGuy on 2023-01-17 13:51 (Reply)
OneGuy: Biden broke laws, sold secrets to China, covered up his crimes

Biden immediately reported and surrendered the classified documents when found. That would indicate there was no cover-up. What laws do you claim were broken?
#2.1.4.2 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 15:27 (Reply)
As with all such True Believers™, Zach's morals are strictly situational. It's the person doing the act that determines if said action is noble or nefarious, not the act itself.
#2.1.4.2.1 RJP on 2023-01-17 17:48 (Reply)
Zach:
QUOTE:
Biden immediately reported and surrendered the classified documents when found.


From Zach's PBS link:

QUOTE:
Sauber’s statement did not explain why the White House waited two days to provide an updated accounting of the number of classified documents records. The White House is already facing scrutiny for waiting more than two months to acknowledge the discovery of the initial group of documents at the Biden office.


So, which is it? Immediately, two days, or more than two months? Sure, Zach will say Biden reported the documents immediately, which may or may not be true, but that was a pretty well kept secret by all parties involved. Also, the weasel words, "when found", speak volumes. Those documents were not supposed to be where they were found in the first place.

Sorry, I'm feeding the troll. I'm done now.
#2.1.4.2.2 RJP on 2023-01-17 17:57 (Reply)
RJP: So, which is it?

Both. You are conflating two different things; the time it took to report the findings to the authorities as required by law, and the time it took the White House bureaucracy to communicate with the public not required by law.

RJP: Those documents were not supposed to be where they were found in the first place.

True, which is why an investigation was opened.

RJP: It's the person doing the act that determines if said action is noble or nefarious, not the act itself.

That is incorrect. However, it’s clear that the Trump case is egregious. See 2.1.2.1.1 above.
#2.1.4.2.3 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 22:03 (Reply)
"How to Regulate Pediatric Gender Medicine"

There are a lot of things that our typical health care insurance doesn't cover. I think boob enhancement is one example and various types of treatments common to actresses to make them look younger. So they pay for it themselves. Simply do the same with all medical treatment to change or alter gender. Simple as that . It would change the money dynamic. Now it would no longer be a cash cow for hospitals and doctors and the amount of this treatment would plummet.
#3 JustMe on 2023-01-17 09:59 (Reply)
'NYC Mayor Says His City Has “No Room” For Illegal Immigrants During Border Visit…'

Diversity for thee but not for me. Typical Leftist. Pile them in.
#4 Maniac on 2023-01-17 10:08 (Reply)
Maniac: “No Room”

Misquote. The actual quote is "no more room".

Maniac: Diversity for thee but not for me.

New York City (GDP $1.6 trillion) is highly diverse, and includes the largest Jewish community outside Israel.
    Foreign born, 36%
    White, 45%
    Black, 25%
    Hispanic, 27%
    Asian 12%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw
#4.1 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 10:51 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Prevailing wisdom insists that your twenties are for extreme exploration...



First half of mine sure as hell were, but then it was the early '50s. Marriage tamed me in the second half, and life has been the same ever since, except the kids are grown and gone...and their kids are grown and gone...and the GGkids are half grown and going.
#5 BillH on 2023-01-17 10:48 (Reply)
Marriage tamed me in the second half, and life has been the same ever since, except the kids are grown and gone...and their kids are grown and gone...and the GGkids are half grown and going.

I would think there would be a lot of self-satisfaction in that, and I do mean that in a good way.
#5.1 feeblemind on 2023-01-17 10:52 (Reply)
Nothing much fazes me anymore.
#5.1.1 BillH on 2023-01-17 12:27 (Reply)
"Died suddenly" is so common now that no one even thinks twice when they hear it. The full vaccinated are dying at record rates while at the same time government agencies are admitting that they inflated the Covid death rates. Recently the number of people who died from the vax exceeded the number who died from Covid. A time for reflection on what happened and what was done wrong so it would never happen again. But that is not what the relevant government agencies are doing. They are continuing to cover up the facts and shred the documents. At this point I think they know this story won't stay under wraps and when the people finally realize the extent of this, possibly the biggest crime in history, that heads will roll. Your government orchestrated everything to facilitate the stealing of a national election. Think about that. Maybe half a million, maybe a million, unnecessary deaths so that Pelosi and her fellow criminals in congress could steal back power.
#6 Anon on 2023-01-17 10:57 (Reply)
Here is a sad example of the Vax; https://tv.gab.com/channel/constitution1a/view/fully-vaxxed-claire-bridges-needs-to-61f5ba92fbed90ac25c76657
#6.1 JustMe on 2023-01-17 11:14 (Reply)
Anon: "Died suddenly" is so common now that no one even thinks twice when they hear it.

Long before COVID, several thousand young people would die "suddenly" every year.

People who are vaccinated are much less likely to be die from COVID.

Anon: Think about that. Maybe half a million, maybe a million, unnecessary deaths

Certainly, the United States did not respond very well to the pandemic, but hundreds of thousands would probably have died from COVID even with a better response.

JustMe: Here is a sad example of the Vax

Bridges was born with a heart condition. It wasn't the vaccination that caused her heart condition nor did it cause her dire situation when she contracted COVID.
#6.2 Zachriel on 2023-01-17 12:38 (Reply)
Showerheads and lightbulbs ... the worst abuse was what they did to the gas can. I had no idea that the marxist authoritarians karens could screw anything up that badly by their micromanaging of our lives.

FDA medical interference ... we need few, not more, authoritarian karens in the medical arena. The same people move from the regulator to the regulated and back again without a tinge of shame.
#7 indyjonesouthere on 2023-01-17 14:43 (Reply)

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