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For many Trump supporters, it was his policies that mattered. We suffered and endured his behavior, just as much as anyone else. Indeed, the headline in one Wall Street Journal oped read “The Only Good Thing About Donald Trump is All His Policies.

Now, we can have his policies without his boorishness, and without the unfair vitriolic anti-Trump diatribes from the left, most of the media and from Republican Never-Trumpers. Trump inspired a whole cadre of impressive Republican presidential prospects, someone of whom is likely to carry the day in 2024 and carry his policies into the future, albeit with different possible successors having different notions of “all policies.”

GOP election strategy: Get smart about early voting or get used to losing

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America was supposed to be a great melting pot of people and ideas. It is not. It's freedoms allow that to happen but also allow the exact opposite. Most Americans of European descent consider themselves to have "melted" into "just" Americans. Not Swedish-Americans or English-Americans or German-Americans but just Americans. But many "Americans" and many non-citizens defines themselves as something else. They are African-Americans or Mexican-Americans or Chinese-Americans and their allegiance is divided as well putting America second to their identity. As such they work closely with others who identify like them to subvert and extort the "American" ideology to bow to them. For them you are either one of them or you are the enemy.

This fact of life is where most of racism comes from today. Racism is a useful tool to extort power and money and it unifies your own tribe against "the enemy" i.e. America. This isn't going to change as long as it is so effective. Unless and until all Americans begin to see themselves as Americans first and not "African" or Hispanic" it will only get worse.

Define worse: Worse would be if a racist group is elected to government and they weaponize it to extort money from Americans (reparations) which cause innocent Americans who are not the favored race to lose their life savings, perhaps their home to pay off the favored race. Does anyone think this will work? Do you think giving a large sum of money to people based on race will somehow make everyone equal? Do you actually think that money will be invested and spent well so that they become "equal" or would you imagine it would all be pissed away in a few weeks of orgies and drinking? And what then? If the aggrieved racial group is still not equal shouldn't there be a reparations 2.0... and then 3.0... And after the precedent is set wouldn't there be riots and violence to demand and get their just reparations? Reparations is merely extortion and it cannot end well.

#1 OneGuy on 2022-12-17 10:18 (Reply)

Potter: "Yes, sir, trapped into frittering his life away playing nursemaid to a lot of garlic-eaters."

#1.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 10:33 (Reply)

garlic eater
A term Japanese use when referring to Koreans. This is based on Japan rarely (if ever) using Garlic, while Koreans use it quite frequently.
Japanese chefs often refer to Korean food as "the meal of a garlic eater"

#1.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-12-17 10:45 (Reply)

OneGuy: "garlic eater"

Potter, of course, was slurring Italians. In the spirit of Christmas past, some things never change, including the decrying of immigrants.

#1.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 11:24 (Reply)

Were the immigrants legal or illegal immigrants?

#1.1.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 12:27 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Were the immigrants legal or illegal immigrants?

Immigration status clearly didn't matter to Potter. Nor was it part of OneGuy's point about African Americans and other ethnic minorities. Potter was a xenophobe.

#1.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 12:40 (Reply)

Were the "garlic eaters" xenophobes too?

Answer carefully because many here grew up with first or second generation Italians and they were as unwelcoming to non-Italians as others were to Italians. It was only as you came together and became friends and enjoyed things in common that the negative impressions disappeared. And that is the point!!! You cannot be a "-American" and expect "Americans" to not consider your opinion of yourself and them to be xenophobic or worse.

#1.1.2.2.1 OneGuy on 2022-12-17 13:25 (Reply)

OneGuy: Answer carefully

Not the ones that George Bailey knew and loved.

#1.1.2.2.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 13:55 (Reply)

Bread, so that this house may never know hunger; Salt, so that life may always have flavor; and wine, so that joy and prosperity may reign forever.

#1.1.2.2.3 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 14:02 (Reply)

Legal status matters. If they invade the country what makes you think they will follow any other law or bother to assimilate?

#1.1.2.2.4 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 14:28 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Legal status matters.

Perhaps to you, but not to Potter, and not to OneGuy's original point.

#1.1.2.2.5 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 14:41 (Reply)

It matters because we have invaders entering this country every day and not a single progressive seems to care. They prefer diversity even if it gets people killed, provides for child trafficking, provides for drug trafficking or brings diseases into the country.

#1.1.2.2.5.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 14:57 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: It matters because . . .

But not relevant to the topic.

#1.1.2.2.5.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 15:24 (Reply)

Once again deflecting for the sake of "diversity".

#1.1.2.2.5.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 15:33 (Reply)

Not relevant to a fictitious character.
Quibble-DickZ gotta quibble.
Gee whiZ!
Bwaha!Lolgf!

#1.1.2.2.5.2.2 Zachinoff on 2022-12-17 17:11 (Reply)

"Get smart about early voting..."

Well again the Republican party is the stupid party. The entire purpose of early voting and vote by mail and the other various voting tricks is to enable cheating. IF voting was honest WHY would voting early get you elected while not voting early cause you to lose.

Here is the elephant in the room; The Republicans were so happy to get rid of Trump that they decided to not look into the most blatant voter cheating in American history. What did that get them? They lst the red wave in 2022 to voting fraud. NOW thewy want you to believe that if you had only voted early we would have won...

The stupid runs deep in establishment Republicans.

End all early voting, end all (almost all) mail in voting, make it a felony to have another persons ballot, require paper ballots only and every ballot has a serial number just as a dollar bill does. All ballot counting must be done under supervision of citizens and videotaped.

#2 JustMe on 2022-12-17 10:43 (Reply)

We keep attributing stupid when what it truly is is malice. The establishment republicans want the same big government as the left, they just go about with different policies, and are not as out in the open about it. We don’t have an opposition party in America. We need a new party.

#2.1 B. Hammer on 2022-12-17 12:29 (Reply)

As big and diverse as USA is, me thinks we need at least 5, 6, or seven political parties.

#2.1.1 RL on 2022-12-17 13:58 (Reply)

RL: As big and diverse as USA is, me thinks we need at least 5, 6, or seven political parties.

The U.S. system is structured to inhibit multiple parties, such as with first past the post elections.

#2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 14:06 (Reply)

JustMe: IF voting was honest WHY would voting early get you elected while not voting early cause you to lose.

Because many Democratic-leaning voters work on election day, are often single, a woman, and may have children at home. In addition, in minority areas, voter waits are often hours long. So, such a voter has to work, go home to fix dinner for the kids, find a sitter, then stand in line to vote. That reduces turnout of such voters. Early voting means more of these people can vote.

#2.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 12:47 (Reply)

Make election day a holiday or have it on Saturday.

With all printed ballots no line at the machines, take your ballot, mark it, drop it in the box, no line, no waiting, problem solved.

In all honesty it is more likely that Republican voters are workers and the Democrats just don't want to get out of bed to go vote.

Paper ballots mean more of all voters can vote. It is the machines that is the bottle neck.

#2.2.1 JustMe on 2022-12-17 13:30 (Reply)

JustMe: Make election day a holiday

Sure. But working people, especially single parents with children may still have to work on holidays.

JustMe: With all printed ballots no line at the machines, take your ballot, mark it, drop it in the box, no line, no waiting, problem solved.

There's always waiting, because voters have to check in. And with short staffing, it can lead to long waits, especially in underfunded neighborhoods. Republicans have long resisted changes to make it easier to vote, especially for minorities.

In any case, your original question was answered.

#2.2.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 13:59 (Reply)

Short staffing is the result of voting jurisdictions being unprepared. A failure to be prepared should result in replacement of the unprepared along with monetary fine.

#2.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 14:37 (Reply)

It is easier to vote than to stand in line at a grocery store to pay for your groceries with food stamps.

#2.2.2.2 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 14:40 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Short staffing is the result of voting jurisdictions being unprepared. A failure to be prepared should result in replacement of the unprepared along with monetary fine.

Sure. The way to fix chronic underfunding is by imposing additional costs.

indyjonesouthere: It is easier to vote than to stand in line at a grocery store

Lines for voting in minority neighborhoods were up to eight hours in 2020. But, you did raise a good point. The single parent has to work, go grocery shopping, pick up the kids at daycare, cook for the kids, find a sitter, go to the polls, then wait in line to vote.

Again, the question is why early voting results in a different pattern of electoral results, and that has been sufficiently explained.

#2.2.2.3 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 14:45 (Reply)

If they can afford ballot collection boxes all over the district they can afford proper staffing. They could even use some of those Zuckerbucks for staffing. Even Soros could fund staffing.

#2.2.2.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 15:02 (Reply)

The voting lines are long only because they have malfunctioning voting machines, shortages of ballots, and unorganized staff. And if election day is a holiday we have none of the other problems. Get in line, mark the ballot and watch the results that night...just as it was always done.

#2.2.2.3.2 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 15:07 (Reply)

The voting lines are long only because they have malfunctioning voting machines, shortages of ballots, and unorganized staff.

You're familiar with the Republican neighborhoods in Maricopa County, I see.

#2.2.2.3.2.1 Not Sure on 2022-12-17 21:12 (Reply)

Not Sure: You're familiar with the Republican neighborhoods in Maricopa County, I see.

How cute! It's like when, after J6, white "conservatives" suddenly discovered that jail conditions in DC were less than ideal.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-18 07:58 (Reply)

And why are these same people in charge of that voting district?Are there any more excuses to continue failed elections? Elections can be held on one day, as the SCOTUS ruled, and be done competently, but only if those running the election are held accountable by fines or sentencing. Does it matter to you which party has power in the voting district?

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 13:18 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Are there any more excuses to continue failed elections?

It wasn't a failed election. Some people were inconvenienced, but everyone had the chance to vote.

indyjonesouthere: Elections can be held on one day, as the SCOTUS ruled

Uh, no. The Supreme Court ruled that the decision can't be made before election day, not that people couldn't vote early. It's like white people just discovered what Blacks have experienced for generations.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-18 13:42 (Reply)

You are race obsessed. Is that the academic propaganda you are inculcated with showing up at most every post.

If election day is one day then it should be held to one day. Not days before or days after.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 17:00 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: You are race obsessed.

Ad hominem doesn't address the empirical findings of racial disparities in ballot access.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-18 17:03 (Reply)

We just saw the NC supreme court throw out voter ID and redistricting. Again, is it inconvenient to require picture ID and proof of citizenship?

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 17:10 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: We just saw the NC supreme court throw out voter ID and redistricting.

Republicans were found to have intentionally crafted the law to discriminate against Blacks. This is the inherent problem with the right-wing movement for voter ID. While it is certainly possible to craft voter ID laws that help ensure security of the election, Republicans keep pushing to use these laws to limit the franchise.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-18 17:15 (Reply)

Voter ID doesn't eliminate anyone but illegal voters. Is there even a state that doesn't provide free ID's. Does NC provide free ID'? Does that free ID prove citizenship. Are minorities the only group that seem unable to get an ID and show citizenship. Do they need to teach that information in every grade in public school? Are teachers unable to instruct students on obtaining voter credentials?

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2.2.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 17:25 (Reply)

That was also a democrat majority court. The new court just voted in is republican majority. I suspect a crispy new decision is not far off. And SCOTUS may very well throw out the state courts jurisdiction to have any say in voting issues.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2.2.2 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 17:29 (Reply)

Ahem, proving who you are is an "inherent" problem?

Cry harder, Quibble-DickZ.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2.2.3 Zachinoff on 2022-12-18 17:32 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: Voter ID doesn't eliminate anyone but illegal voters.

Analysis presented in court found twice as many legal Blacks voters lacked ID acceptable under the law than whites.

indyjonesouthere: That was also a democrat majority court.

The finding of fact was made by a lower state court. The federal courts also reached the same conclusion--the rules were intentionally crafted with discriminatory intent.

We agree that voter ID can be implemented fairly. But Republicans always use the opportunity to limit minority participation.

#2.2.2.3.2.1.2.1.2.2.4 Zachriel on 2022-12-19 08:25 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: If they can afford ballot collection boxes all over the district they can afford proper staffing.

Drop boxes are more easily available than staffing election offices. In the current environment, election workers are even subject to abuse by people propagating lies about election fraud.

indyjonesouthere: The voting lines are long only because they have malfunctioning voting machines, shortages of ballots, and unorganized staff.

Shortages of staff is a chronic problem in underfunded communities.

Regardless, the original question has been addressed.

#2.2.2.3.3 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 15:28 (Reply)

You have addressed the issue with excuses to continue lockdown voting.

#2.2.2.3.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 15:36 (Reply)

"Again, the question is why early voting results in a different pattern of electoral results, and that has been sufficiently explained."

No, it hasn't. Back up your narrative with some hard data from real sources--not wikipedia--showing that somehow Dem voters are busier and more put upon than Republican voters.

#2.2.2.3.3.2 SK on 2022-12-17 16:40 (Reply)

SK: Back up your narrative with some hard data from real sources

“Voters in precincts with more minorities experienced longer waits. Voters in precincts with higher percentages of minority voters tended to have fewer machines.” See Famighetti et el., Election Day Long Lines: Resource Allocation, Brennan Center for Justice at New York University School of Law, empirical findings.

Minorities are more likely to vote Democratic.

Consequently, it is harder for Democratic-leaning voters to cast their ballot, which will reduce their participation. The question was, “IF voting was honest WHY would voting early get you elected while not voting early cause you to lose.” The answer is because changes in the ease of voting will change the partisan composition of those who actually cast ballots.

#2.2.2.3.3.3 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 20:55 (Reply)

According to "NOT SURE", those are republican districts.

#2.2.2.3.3.3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 13:24 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: According to "NOT SURE", those are republican districts.

You're conflating a sometime problem with systemic problems, as documented above. “Voters in precincts with more minorities experienced longer waits. Voters in precincts with higher percentages of minority voters tended to have fewer machines.”

#2.2.2.3.3.3.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-18 13:38 (Reply)

If they can provide functioning ballot boxes they can also provide functioning voting machines.
Ballot boxes weren't needed before Covid, you need Covid to continue the ballot box hoax.

#2.2.2.3.3.4 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 17:06 (Reply)

There’s always gonna be an excuse. If you said open voting for 72 straight hours there’d be some excuse about “But minorities….”

At some point participating in the franchise is important to you, or it’s not, and making the vote a ridiculous free-for-all isn’t the answer.

#2.2.2.4 Hoss on 2022-12-17 16:34 (Reply)

Hoss: At some point participating in the franchise is important to you, or it’s not, and making the vote a ridiculous free-for-all isn’t the answer.

Making the act of voting less onerous is not the same as making it a “free-for-all.” Nor should voting be harder for minorities or people who live in poor neighborhoods. Like a good lock, the ballot system should be easy for valid voters yet secure against fraud.

#2.2.2.4.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 21:03 (Reply)

Does "less onerous" mean NO ID and no proof of citizenship?

#2.2.2.4.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-18 13:26 (Reply)

'For many Trump supporters, it was his policies that mattered.'

Saw a bumper sticker a few weeks ago that said, "I could sure go for some mean Tweets and low gas prices right about now." Yup.

#3 Maniac on 2022-12-17 10:51 (Reply)

It doesn't matter who the Republican nominee for 2024 is. He or she will get the same unhinged treatment Trump has received for the last six or seven years.

#4 RebeccaH on 2022-12-17 11:30 (Reply)

Nope. It will be, must be Trump unless he dies or clearly removes himself to the kingmaker position.

DeSantis does not have the pockets to survive long periods of prolonged attack. He's great - but he's being offered up by the never-Trumpers and other quislings who assess him (probably correctly) as a less formidable opponent. And the switch is guaranteed to decrease the numbers and energy of the Maga base.

It has to be Trump just like it had to be Netanyahu here in Israel - because the corruption and charaxter assassination of cancel culture have become the issue... Combined with real evidence of treason in international affairs.

We Israelis flailed through a series of ineffectual elections that allowed more masks to drop and more citizens to her red pilled. Now we finally have a broad patriotic conservative government. The collapse of the Inquisition against Netanyahu - and the corruption it revealed - were central to this process.

Americans may have to endure the same. In any event, nothing will really happen under a Cruz or DeSantis until a significant part of the population is red pilled - at which point Trump will be aore viable candidate than ever.

#5 Ben David on 2022-12-17 11:40 (Reply)

Ben David nailed it!

#5.1 Anon on 2022-12-17 13:32 (Reply)

Get smart about early voting or get used to losing...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/real-time-election-fraud-database-latency/

The latest and greatest election cheat to keep ahead in the power game. An election is no longer held to represent the will of the people but the will of the oligarchs. They were right, the Constitution was written for a moral and religious people.

#6 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-17 12:11 (Reply)

Hi Bird Dog. I read your posting about Trump policies and (hopefully) alternate candidates. Then I tried to open the complete article in Red Line. It brought up what appears to be a sex chatroom. I shut that down and couldn't figure out why I was the recipient of that crap. I tried again about an hour later and got the same website. Don't know how this happens. Now I'm just hoping my computer isn't infected. Just thought you'd want to know.....

#7 Snowgoose on 2022-12-17 15:11 (Reply)

the E-gop needs to focus on the dead and multiple personality vote

#8 nunya on 2022-12-18 12:05 (Reply)

What if you lived and worked in a town where there was a single major business model. Lots of companies but all producing the same thing. You worked for this industry as a contractor and your income depended on the business owners buying and marketing your product. But all the owners are in a club and they all know each other and they collude in their business to benefit themselves but to harm their clients by controlling the value of the clients work. This works very well for them they are all rich and doing well but you have to go to them hat in hand to sell your product. And if you upset anyone of them then they all turn against you.

Tough gig! You can complain, shine some light on it, demand an investigation, perhaps they are even breaking the law to function in this way. The press would probably jump on this story. Lawyers would take it up and courts would find some problems with what is going on. It would be big news.

Now imagine that all these businessmen are Jewish, the club they all go to and talk about business is a synagogue, and your name is Kanye West. Sorry, none of those common sense rules apply, you touched the 3rd rail and you are now a social outcast and anyone is allowed to punish you forever. There is no forgiveness or resurrection you are done. It's the price you pay for criticizing the wrong people.

#9 SillyMe on 2022-12-18 12:10 (Reply)

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