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Friday, December 16. 2022

Friday morning links

 It's Time to Rehabilitate 'Baby, It's Cold Outside'


 Not just light: Everything is a wave, including you


 After a 15-year decline, more colleges have become hostile to free speech


 WILL ANYONE PAY A PRICE FOR SUPPRESSING FREEDOM OF SPEECH?


  We should be so lucky as to have robber barons again.


 At Canada’s National Gallery, Ideological Enforcers Are Pushing Out Veteran Curators


 The Detroit school board voted to remove Dr. Ben Carson's name from the Benjamin Carson High School of Science & Medicine.


 My take: fusion "breakthrough" a total dud


Germany Experiences Coldest Winter in a Decade as Energy Crisis Worsens



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Re: The Detroit school board voted to remove Dr. Ben Carson's name from the Benjamin Carson High School of Science & Medicine.

They actually did him a favor by disassociating his name from the abysmal performance of the school (https://www.frontpagemag.com/detroit-fixes-8-math-proficiency-school-by-removing-ben-carsons-name/).
#1 mudbug on 2022-12-16 11:11 (Reply)
Our federal government is failing us. Our elections are being stolen and this prevents us as citizens from replacing our failing leaders. We need another avenue to remove failing politicians from office. Impeachment is the only process open to us but election fraud prevents that because the failing party is still in power in the Senate. They intend to use the next two years to further flush our country down the drain and increase the effectiveness of stolen elections. We need a faster more effective means of redoing a stolen election. Something like a vote of no confidence after which the government is forced to resign and everyone must run for their office again.
#2 OneGuy on 2022-12-16 11:15 (Reply)
Not on the docket but always newsworthy as the originators of the conspiracy theory.

https://gellerreport.com/2022/12/cia-kill-jfk.html/
#3 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-16 11:23 (Reply)
There are just some things where the official explanation doesn't make sense:

Epstein didn't kill himself
Oswald didn't kill JFK
One shooter and bump stocks don't explain what happened in Las Vegas.
McVeigh did not act alone to bomb the federal building in OK City.
Biden didn't win in 2020.
#3.1 JustMe on 2022-12-16 12:59 (Reply)
"Oswald didn't kill JFK"

I'm not aware of any serious people who contend that Oswald didn't kill JFK so I wonder if you really meant, "Oswald did not kill JFK by himself."
#3.1.1 mudbug on 2022-12-16 13:08 (Reply)
A very believable witness placed Oswald in the breakroom at the time of the shooting. There was evidence that was intended to involve Oswald that was used in the inquiry that was proven to be fabricated. Oswald had connections with the CIA. But he was used as a patsy. The FBI later used three sharpshooters to try to duplicate the shooting and all three failed. Interestingly a bullet that was fired from that rifle prior to the shooting was later "planted" on the stretcher they used to bring JFK's body to the hospital. THAT is how deep the fraud in this went, they literally had a bullet from the rifle to plant I guess just in case no bullet was found in the body. Did Oswald plant the bullet at the hospital too?
#3.1.1.1 JustMe on 2022-12-16 19:27 (Reply)
No. If you haven't already, go read Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK by Gerald Posner and then get back to us. Or, if you have read it, tells us where Posner is wrong and why.
#3.1.1.1.1 RJP on 2022-12-17 00:21 (Reply)
The definitive book on the JFK assassination.
Pretty much debunks every conspiracy theory that was popular at the time.
#3.1.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-12-18 01:26 (Reply)
A curiosity is that Tucker does not mention George H W Bush who was a CIA director and big believer in the NWO. BBB and WEF are kissing cousins of NWO. And conveniently HW is gone.
#3.1.2 indyjonesouthere on 2022-12-16 16:21 (Reply)
Talk of wave-particle duality having any real connection with concrete reality has no meaning until physics succeeds in providing an algorithim for wave-function collapse. Until then, physics is only largely a mental exercise from which useful real-world mathematical information can be abstracted.
#4 DeGaulle on 2022-12-16 11:58 (Reply)
DeGaulle: Talk of wave-particle duality having any real connection with concrete reality has no meaning until physics succeeds in providing an algorithim for wave-function collapse. Until then, physics is only largely a mental exercise from which useful real-world mathematical information can be abstracted.

Not sure what you mean in this context by an "algorithm," but tests of Bell's Theorem preclude any local hidden variable (seemingly implied by your notion of an algorithm), indicating that quantum weirdness is actually weird and not just misunderstood.
#4.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-16 12:55 (Reply)
I'd say it's not weird, but misunderstood. As Stanley Jaki said, the 'uncertainty principle' is a function of our practical inability to simultaneously measure momentum and position, not because the uncertainty is a fundamental quantum property. Einstein too was right, God does not play dice. However, most modern scientists lack the ability to simply admit ignorance so they describe that which they can't understand as 'weird'. It just couldn't be that something is beyond their ability to understand.
#4.1.1 DeGaulle on 2022-12-16 14:32 (Reply)
DeGaulle: the 'uncertainty principle' is a function of our practical inability to simultaneously measure momentum and position, not because the uncertainty is a fundamental quantum property.

Tests of Bell’s Inequality show that there is no mechanistic explanation for quantum uncertainty. It is built into the very structure of the universe. Complementary variables, such as position and momentum, are necessarily entangled.
#4.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-16 22:24 (Reply)
Jaki and Einstein disagree with you. So do I.
#4.1.1.1.1 DeGaulle on 2022-12-17 14:18 (Reply)
DeGaulle: Jaki and Einstein disagree with you. So do I.

Quite the argument from authority. Turns out that Einstein's position is contradicted by tests of Bell's Inequality.

Interestingly, Bell's Theorem was a response to the Einstein–Podolsky–Rosen thought-experiment. The testing of Bell's Inequality shows that there is no local hidden variable to explain quantum weirdness. Of course, that doesn't rule out superluminal angels dancing on a pin.
#4.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 14:39 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Will Anyone Pay a Price for Suppressing Freedom of Speech? . . . We know now that tech companies cooperated with government officials to suppress Americans’ freedom of speech. Was that legal?

Cooperation between government and media is not only legal, but commonplace and ordinary. It's only a violation of the First Amendment if there is undue coercion or inducement by the government. For instance, if the President were to call his critics an "enemy of the people," that could be construed as using the power of his office to suppress criticism.

That is not to say that people shouldn't be vigilant.
#5 Zachriel on 2022-12-16 13:03 (Reply)
Look up the Hatch Act then get back to us, (((Quibble-DickZ))).
#5.1 Zachinoff on 2022-12-16 13:51 (Reply)
I say let the Supreme Court decide. The best way to get in front of the Supreme court is to prosecute anyone who conspired to deny Americans their first amendment rights. After all, no one is above the law.
#5.2 Anon on 2022-12-16 15:35 (Reply)
Anon: The best way to get in front of the Supreme court is to prosecute anyone who conspired to deny Americans their first amendment rights.

If someone broke the law, they should be prosecuted, but you can’t just prosecute people willy-nilly. Cooperation between government and the private sector is not illegal in and of itself. For instance, the media may amplify a government public service message: “Buckle up for safety!” or refer people to the government’s emergency response website during a hurricane.
#5.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-16 22:43 (Reply)
"For instance, if the President were to call his critics an "enemy of the people..."


Wait a minute. I thought you didn't "make shit up"?
#5.3 SK on 2022-12-17 07:53 (Reply)
SK: Wait a minute. I thought you didn't "make shit up"?

It was introduced as a hypothetical.
#5.3.1 Zachriel on 2022-12-17 08:21 (Reply)
If you drive your SUV down to the border and assist illegal immigrants, who have already crossed the border into the U.S., by driving them to a city or bus stop YOU are a human trafficker and if caught will go to jail. If you do the same exact thing under the guise of an NGO you are a "charity" helping alleviate human suffering. We should enforce the laws on the books. You traffic in humans; you go to jail.
#6 JustMe on 2022-12-16 13:50 (Reply)
And don't forget you're a "charity" working on government grants so the taxpayer is footing the bill for all your "charity".
#6.1 Jerryskids on 2022-12-16 16:33 (Reply)
That nuclear fusion experiment was hailed as a breakthrough by all the media, just the same as the cold fusion experiment was 22 years ago. That's how you know it's BS. Unless you believe reporters have suddenly gotten a lot smarter than they have ever been, which would be the real blockbuster headline on this story.
#7 Jerryskids on 2022-12-16 16:44 (Reply)
The way students learn to think with discipline of intellect and regulation of emotions is by talking to others. College was where this debate could rage as students were segregated from the commercial world and day-to-day struggles.

If colleges are hostile to free speech, they are actively working to impede their students learning to think well. And then you throw in the social justice mission.

QUOTE:
"Social justice is an actual impediment to acquiring human capital"
--Thomas Sowell


QUOTE:
Then the next question is, well, what do you do once you receive the answer? And the answer is, well, if you can think then you use internal speech to dissect the answer, which is what you do, for example, you encourage your students to do if they're writing an essay. You know, they lay out a proposition and then you hope they can take the proposition apart. And essentially if they are, what they're doing is they're transforming themselves into avatars, speaking avatars of two different viewpoints. So you have the speaker for the proposition and then you have the critic, and maybe you lay out the dialogue between them. And that constitutes the body of the essay. And you have to be bloody sophisticated to manage that, because it means that you have to divide yourself in some sense into two avatars that are oppositional. And then you have to allow yourself to be the battle space between them. That, and people have to be trained to do that. That's what universities are supposed to do. It's really hard. What people generally do instead of that is talk to other people. And that's how they organize themselves, by talking to other people.
--Jordan Peterson


These colleges are no longer good places for young people who want to become educated to linger.
#8 JK Brown on 2022-12-18 20:07 (Reply)

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