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Wednesday, November 23. 2022Wednesday morning linksIs this really the only portrait of William Shakespeare made in his lifetime? Unveiling of an early 17th-century painting has caused a stir—but what does the evidence say? Looks like him to me Astrobiologists concerned about imperialistic consequences of galactic exploration Unraveling Autism's Complex Genetic Roots- A new Columbia study finds sixty genes associated with the condition, including mild forms of ASD. Canadian Government Literally Proposes State Execution of Living Babies NBC acknowledges myocarditis link to COVID-19 vaccines Did young people ever need the vaccine? Is this like government-controlled credit cards? Or what? Elon Musk Teaches Leftwing Activists That Actions Have Consequences Podcast: How Dubious Racism Accusations Brought Down the Guggenheim Museum’s Top Curator Kings and Queens and Guillotines - Robespierre’s spirit has possessed the “progressive” left. And a civil exorcism is our last best hope for saving the Republic. " Hunter Biden's Laptop Is Still Real. The Russian disinfo lie “was not the idle speculation of a few ex-spooks. It [justified] in real time… the most chilling episode of state-directed private-sector censorship in U.S. history”" Trackbacks
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Re "Astrobiologists" (whatever those are): A very silly article, full of academic CRT gobbledygook. Mars is not "galactic", by the way, but our next-door neighbor, so to speak. Well what else are they going to talk about, since no living things have been yet discovered in the Solar system aside from on the Earth. Such futile sophistry! What a way to spend your career!
Re Canadian Government: May I modestly suggest that they do Justin Castreau first?
Check out POEC commission in Canada. For some reason it is under the radar.
"Is this like government-controlled credit cards? Or what?"
Mark of the Beast not far off. QUOTE: NBC acknowledges myocarditis link to COVID-19 vaccines NBC, 10/6/2021: "Getting at least one dose of the Pfizer vaccine increased the risk of a rare type of heart inflammation, especially in young males, according to a large new study from researchers in Israel. However, the diagnosed cases were usually mild, and most of the patients were sent home without ongoing need for treatment." "However, the diagnosed cases were usually mild, and most of the patients were sent home without ongoing need for treatment."
Wouldn't that last statement also be true if these otherwise healthy young males had tested positive for Covid? Another Guy Named Dan: Wouldn't that last statement also be true if these otherwise healthy young males had tested positive for Covid?
Quite so. (Congratulations for making a valid point!) See Patone et al., Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection, Nature Medicine 2021: "Vaccination for SARS-CoV-2 in adults was associated with a small increase in the risk of myocarditis within a week of receiving the first dose of both adenovirus and mRNA vaccines, and after the second dose of both mRNA vaccines. By contrast, SARS-CoV-2 infection was associated with a substantial increase in the risk of hospitalization or death from myocarditis, pericarditis and cardiac arrhythmia." See Singer et al., Risk of Myocarditis from COVID-19 Infection in People Under Age 20: A Population-Based Analysis, medRxiv 2021 (preprint): "Young males infected with the virus are up 6 times more likely to develop myocarditis as those who have received the vaccine." CDC: However, the diagnosed cases were usually mild, and most of the patients were sent home without ongoing need for treatment.
They are awfully cavalier with the weakening of a patient's heart muscle that does not heal itself. mudbug: They are awfully cavalier with the weakening of a patient's heart muscle that does not heal itself.
Doctors, as a rule, are hardly cavalier about patients. However, most inflammations resolve naturally with time. In any case, the risks of myocarditis are much higher with COVID infection than with vaccination. The covid vaccine has had incredible negative side effects most of which is actively being hidden from the public. In a few years after the lawyers have sucked the Camp Lejune scam dry you will see ads on TV for anyone who received the vax. The chickens are coming home and they are pissed off.
What strikes me as really odd in this is our CDC is still pushing the vax even as they recognize it doesn't work and kills people. This is frightening, the CDC is supposed to be staffed with experts and doctors and they are blind to what is happening. Ironically even as our last round of mandates proved masks simply do not work the CDC is gearing up for mask mandates again. Who in the hell is in charge over there? OneGuy: The covid vaccine has had incredible negative side effects most of which is actively being hidden from the public.
Serious adverse effects from vaccination are rare, certainly much rarer than adverse effects from COVID, which has killed over a million Americans and sent millions to the hospital. OneGuy: What strikes me as really odd in this is our CDC is still pushing the vax even as they recognize it doesn't work and kills people. Vaccination is very effective at preventing the severe consequences of COVID, and serious adverse effects are rare. "COVID, which has killed over a million Americans and sent millions to the hospital."
Most of them are vaccinated. "Vaccination is very effective at preventing the severe consequences of COVID" In fact the exact opposite is true. "serious adverse effects are rare" Well if you consider death to be serious the insurance companies are reporting record levels of "sudden death" in young healthy vaxxed people. Autopsies discover large blood clots, blood separating into clear fluid and clumps of red blood cells, other abnormalities in the blood; all caused by the vax. AND this trend continues and may never end until perhaps all the vaxed people have died. OneGuy: Most of them are vaccinated.
That is incorrect. Nearly 400,000 Americans died from COVID in 2020, even before the vaccine was available. But you are not only incorrect on the fact, but misunderstand statistics. If everyone in a group is vaccinated, but someone dies of COVID, then 100% of people who died from COVID were vaccinated. The real question is how many would have died if the group was unvaccinated, a number measured in lives, a number which is many times higher. OneGuy: In fact the exact opposite is true. Mayo Clinic: "the COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing severe illness." OneGuy: Well if you consider death to be serious the insurance companies are reporting record levels of "sudden death" in young healthy vaxxed people. Provide some evidence that "sudden deaths" in the young are statistically significant. A majority of those 400,000 deaths could have been prevented with active treatments of ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine but instead the CDC and FDA discouraged their use.
Worse than that is that it was known that almost all those in the hospital had low levels of vitamin D. Prescribing elevated doses of vitamin D would have kept a lot of them out of the hospital in the first place.
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mudbug
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2022-11-23 13:38
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mudbug: Prescribing elevated doses of vitamin D would have kept a lot of them out of the hospital in the first place.
That's important information. Vitamin D is known to be important to immune function generally. Americans tend to have low levels of vitamin D, especially people of color who produce less of their own when exposed to sunlight. If the entire U.S. population had taken supplemental vitamin D, then it may have saved 100,000 lives over the course of the pandemic. See Gibbons et al., Association between vitamin D supplementation and COVID-19 infection and mortality, Scientific Reports 2022.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 13:51
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Z: (that prescribing vitamin D would reduce Wuhan flu hospitalizations) That's important information.
Yep, it was known and it was ignored. You're welcome to draw your own conclusions.
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mudbug
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2022-11-23 14:09
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mudbug: Yep, it was known and it was ignored.
The data wasn't immediately available. SARS-CoV-2 was a novel virus. Like exercise, sleep, diet, they all contribute to good health, and good health contributes to immune function. There was nothing preventing people from taking vitamin supplements, or better yet, living a healthy life style. Even then, Vitamin D isn't a panacea.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 14:16
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It was known early on that hospitalized patients were almost uniformly low in vitamin D, the clear implication is that good levels of vitamin D would likely keep you out of the hospital which means that if you caught the Wuhan flu, you were less likely to die. They knew that and said nothing.
Nobody said it was a panacea.
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mudbug
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2022-11-23 20:30
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mudbug: It was known early on that hospitalized patients were almost uniformly low in vitamin D, the clear implication is that good levels of vitamin D would likely keep you out of the hospital which means that if you caught the Wuhan flu, you were less likely to die. They knew that and said nothing.
No, it wasn't *known*, but suspected. Even now, the data isn't conclusive. The problem is that when you live in an echo chamber, you can't hear very well. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said in 2020, "If you are deficient in vitamin D, that does have an impact on your susceptibility to infection. So I would not mind recommending, and I do it myself taking vitamin D supplements." mudbug: Nobody said it was a panacea. In fact, many people were led to believe that vitamin D alone would protect them from COVID, and therefore, they didn't need to be vaccinated or take precautions.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-24 09:16
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Of course, if everybody exercised regularlyl, ate a healthy diet, had sufficient sleep, avoided unnecessary stress, and drank plenty of fluids, then diseases of all sorts would be reduced.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 13:55
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Mayo Clinic: "the COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing severe illness."
And yet almost 60% of the people who died of Wuhan flu in August 2022 were vaccinated. mudbug: And yet almost 60% of the people who died of Wuhan flu in August 2022 were vaccinated.
If everyone in a group are vaccinated, then if someone dies, then 100% of the people in the group who died were vaccinated. The actual question is how many people in the group would have died if they weren't vaccinated. You might want to provide some actual data.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 14:19
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Funny that no one wishes to make that data available to the public.
Nice try, Quibble-DickZ with your obfuscation.
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Zachinoff
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2022-11-23 15:21
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Z: The actual question is how many people in the group would have died if they weren't vaccinated. You might want to provide some actual data.
The fact that almost 60% of the people dying from Wuhan flu speaks for itself. That doesn't even begin to count those who have died from adverse effects from the vaccines. You're welcome to argue that they are safe and effective. BTW, I got my information from that right-wing rag, the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/11/23/vaccinated-people-now-make-up-majority-covid-deaths/). This isn't new information, even the Washington Post in April realized that the vaccines didn't protect you from the Wuhan flu (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/04/29/growing-percentage-americans-dying-covid-19-are-vaccinated/).
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mudbug
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2022-11-23 20:50
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Math is tough.
mudbug: The fact that almost 60% of the people dying from Wuhan flu speaks for itself. Consider a simple example. There are a thousand people. 95% or 950 of them have been vaccinated, while 5% or 50 of them have not been vaccinated. 6 people in the vaccinated group die from a contagion, while 4 people in the unvaccinated group die from a contagion. It's true that 60% of those who died had been vaccinated. But does that mean people who are vaccinated are more likely to die? No. The chance of dying in the vaccinated group is 6/950 = 0.63%, while the chance of dying in the unvaccinated group is 4/50 = 8%. mudbug: BTW, I got my information from that right-wing rag, the Washington Post Let check out your secondary source. The first link says, "Being unvaccinated is still a major risk factor for dying from covid-19." The second link says, "It’s still true that unvaccinated people are at a much higher risk of dying from an infection." So, that's settled then.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-24 09:30
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QUOTE: Hunter Biden's Laptop Is Still Real. . . “CBS ‘confirms’ Hunter Biden laptop is real 769 days after Post broke story.” CBS only recently got access to the original hard drive data. There had been many adulterated copies in circulation, so it couldn't be authenticated. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hunter-biden-laptop-data-analysis/ It's much more accurate to say that CBS only recently sought to verify the contents (shortly after a national election, BTW), something other orgs did long ago. But accuracy is not your strong suit, now is it.
I should be clear to anyone, even you, that what's happening is that Biden is now considered by the left/Democrats/corporate media (but i repeat myself) to be a liability, so the laptop is worth "verifying". You constantly defend these people by making weak "well, technically" arguments. No one, including you, is buying it, which of course burns down your credibility on ALL subjects. The biggest disappointment is Herridge, who at one time I respected as a journalist. SK: It's much more accurate to say that CBS only recently sought to verify the contents
You forgot to address the point: CBS didn't have access to the original data, and there were multiple adulterated copies in circulation. If they could neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the information themselves, why did they take the word of others who did not have access to the original data that it was fake?
How do you know that CBS lied and covered this up and is part of the left wing cabal??? Because Zach and the rest of the left wing cabal disinformation cadre are out there debunking it.
The left is ALWAYS doing what they are accusing the other side of doing. Interestingly now that the election is over we find out that Bidens multi-trillion inflation fighting bill is cutting Social Security. Hey! Isn't that what they accused the Republicans of? Another Guy Named Dan: If they could neither confirm nor deny the authenticity of the information themselves, why did they take the word of others who did not have access to the original data that it was fake?
They did? QUOTE: CBS News {October 16, 2020} has not seen or corroborated the data supposedly on the hard drive, and Giuliani has declined to allow other news outlets to review the information. {emphasis added} This is laugh out loud hilarious; your using CBS's own statement as proof of their journalistic integrity is as ridiculous and lazy a standard of "fact checking" as they hold themselves to.
You constantly ignore the Rule of Holes. The proper term is obfuscation.
Quibble-DickZ use it often when shown their bad faith dishonesty.
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Zachinoff
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2022-11-23 15:35
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Incorrect--clearly they didn't seek out access to the information many other new sources used that allowed those news orgs and journalists to confirm the authenticity of the laptop.
SK: your using CBS's own statement as proof of their journalistic integrity
Genetic fallacy. And a non sequitur. Your claim was that CBS News had said it was fake. We pointed to CBS News saying it was uncorroborated. SK: they didn't seek out access to the information many other new sources "Giuliani has declined to allow other news outlets to review the information." "Your claim was that CBS News had said it was fake."
That's really kinda sad. I made no such claim, and your claiming I did is a pathetic attempt to deflect and change what the argument is about. What I said, and what you won't address, is that they refused to do the actual journalism that other orgs did to prove or disprove the authenticity of the laptop. Hell, even The Daily Mail did better journalism than CBS. And you just keep digging... SK: I made no such claim
Sorry. That was another commenter. SK: they refused to do the actual journalism "Giuliani has declined to allow other news outlets to review the information." SK: even The Daily Mail did better journalism than CBS.
We checked the Daily Mail. As of November 2020, they had not independently corroborated the data. They noted that an unnamed "cyber-security expert hired by a freelance journalist . . . spent 'hundreds of hours' verifying the information and satisfying himself that the data had not been interfered with." Certainly, some of the information was real. However, there were also copies of the data with adulterations making the rounds. November 2020? That's two years ago, just the start of the story--DM has been reporting on this for months.
The undeniable fact that you refuse to acknowledge is that CBS, at one time an actual source of news, is way "behind the curve" on a very important story others have been reporting for a comparatively long time. There are no reasons for this that don't point to either incompetence or malfeasance. Of course CBS was the home of Dan Rather...so there's a history there of playing fast and loose.
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SK
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2022-11-23 15:03
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SK: That's two years ago, just the start of the story--DM has been reporting on this for months.
That's right. They reported on it without independent corroboration.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 15:04
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The media was more than happy to report on Russia, Russia, Russia without any independent collaboration and only had the DOJ and FBI narratives along with Hillary's opposition research fakes. They were true believers.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-23 16:34
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It is only "slowly" and "very slowly" that even the midwits at the Washington Post are catching on to the problem of NARRATIVES.
https://www.wnd.com/2022/11/washington-post-pandemic-unvaccinated-narrative/
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-23 17:08
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indyjonesouthere: The media was more than happy to report on Russia, Russia, Russia without any independent collaboration and only had the DOJ and FBI narratives along with Hillary's opposition research fakes.
You'd have to be specific. While there was some retractions, as is not uncommon with breaking stories, most mainstream reports have held up well.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 17:16
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The mainstream reports were pure, unadulterated bullshit.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-23 17:20
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And ALL the media was happy to report that 51 (count em) intelligence agency members ALL called the Hunter laptop nothing but disinformation. Probably Russian disinformation?
Further proof that the intelligence agency officials need no collaborative information and that makes it good enough for even more midwits to report those "facts" from the expert class. And then there is "safe and effective" from more experts. No one worried about a single fact. Experts became the "fact".
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-23 17:18
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indyjonesouthere: And ALL the media was happy to report that 51 (count em) intelligence agency members ALL called the Hunter laptop nothing but disinformation.
That's the problem with relying on the narrative in your head. They were former intelligence officials, and they didn't claim to have any specific knowledge of the origin of the laptop. Nor is that an example of the media misreporting. indyjonesouthere: The mainstream reports were pure, unadulterated bullshit. In other words, you can't be specific.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-23 17:31
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In other words you're still practicing parcel tongue with the intelligence officials that ALL show up as "intelligence" experts on the alphabet tv channels.
As usual you avoid the fact that you were more than happy to spread the disinformation narrative that the Russia, Russia, Russia PRODUCERS laid out for all you midwits. Everything you presented was always backed up with your 'strong evidence" mantra. And you still do it.
#6.2.5.3.2.5.1
indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-23 17:49
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indyjonesouthere: In other words you're still practicing parcel tongue with the intelligence officials that ALL show up as "intelligence" experts on the alphabet tv channels.
They are experts, but without any special knowledge of the laptop or the current intelligence. And it is reasonable to report what they said, as long as the report is clear that it’s opinion. How did you think it worked?
#6.2.5.3.2.5.2
Zachriel
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2022-11-23 18:34
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Once again, you are still practicing parcel tongue. The whole point of putting 51 intelligence "experts" on the media wide "disinformation" campaign was to malign the credibility of the laptop data so they could bury a political hot potato in election season and protect Biden and the Biden grifters and perverts.
#6.2.5.3.2.5.2.1
indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-23 18:50
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indyjonesouthere: The whole point of putting 51 intelligence "experts" on the media wide "disinformation" campaign was to malign the credibility of the laptop data so they could bury a political hot potato in election season and protect Biden and the Biden grifters and perverts.
Keep in mind that it was properly represented as the opinion of former intelligence officials who said they had no first-hand knowledge, but it was certainly newsworthy.
#6.2.5.3.2.5.2.2
Zachriel
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2022-11-24 09:05
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Keep pretending. It won't change the tactics of progressives, including intelligence agencies and agents, and media colluding to provide disinformation to the public and diverting attention from their "hot potato" problems.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-11-24 12:18
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"They were former intelligence officials, and they didn't claim to have any specific knowledge "
What they did was highly partisan AND intentionally harmful to the United States. This was treason by former intelligence officials. Does that get through your thick skull? I doubt it. Their letter and comments were intentional and they knew at the time what they were saying was not just a lie but the exact opposite of the true facts. Why? Why would they openly commit treason just to get an openly owned by China politician elected president? Were they too owned by the CCP? Were they managed by the CCP while they were in office? Everything they did while in office should be reviewed with a microscope. Not telling how much damage they have covertly done to our country. They are more than a disgrace they are criminal.
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OneGuy
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2022-11-24 11:06
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OneGuy: What they did was highly partisan AND intentionally harmful to the United States.
Doubtful it caused significant harm to the United States, but, regardless, that was their opinion. OneGuy: This was treason by former intelligence officials. Huh? Expressing an opinion is not treason.
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Zachriel
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2022-11-24 11:15
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What if FTX isn't what they are telling you? Imagine FTX was real but at some point co-opted by the globalist left for their own purposes. Crypto is a loose end in the greater scheme to control economies and individuals. It had to be destroyed or controlled. But how? What was needed was a huge scandal and major fallout and disruption to allow the globalist to impose sanctions and new laws giving them more control of currency AND as a side benefit they would siphon of billions for themselves. A win/win!
Well, that is what happened and now we will see stage two as the globalist implement their controls of currency. What is control of currency? Think of Canada when Justin Castro locked up the bank accounts of anyone who disagreed with his tyranny. It gives huge power to government. They can track everything you do, everything you buy and they can deny you access to your money. This requires them to hire 87,000 IRS agents (with guns) to accomplish but that's no problem as long as you steal the elections. Brazil has recently instituted government control of individual wealth (credit/debit/bank accounts) in an effort to quench the protest over the recent election. They have also instituted a discretionary policy of seizing children from parent who are attending the protests, which are lawful.
When you allow government to take control, they will seize the opportunity to seize it, push the limits, and expand their authority. There are very few exceptions to this rule, as evidenced by our current State. Told Ya So: The Club Q Shooter Is ‘Non-binary’
QUOTE: Well, it turns out that the shooter is a part of the LGBTQ community. According to court filings, the suspect is identified as “Mx. Anderson Aldrich,” identifies as non-binary, and uses they/them pronouns. In new court filing, public defenders for the suspect in the mass shooting at a Colorado gay club that left 5 people dead say that their client is non-binary and that "they use they/them pronouns." The lawyers refer to their client as Mx. Anderson Aldrich. pic.twitter.com/dPaUpiFXKN https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2022/11/23/told-ya-so-the-club-q-shooter-is-non-binary-n1648133 I always thought the prayer booth portrait in THX 138 was Shakespeare. (DOH!)
Don't forget vaccine caused autism or severe head injury at an early age. The CO Springs false flag will be memory holed now that crisis comrade has come out rainbow. The Mundt Act of 2012 legalizes everything fake and unhappy. |