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Wednesday, September 7. 2022

Wednesday morning links

 The Origins of Woke - A forgotten satirical book from the nineties predicted cancel culture.


 Jordan Peterson to Hillsdale grads: You will suffer in life; rise above it


Chaplain Claims Church Of England Deemed Him "Risk To Children" For Questioning LGBT Ideology


 UC Berkeley School of Law groups ban ‘Zionist’ speakers


 An alien worldview has invaded our nation’s schools.


 Nearly 1 In 4 Democratic Voters Believe Men Can Get Pregnant: Poll


 Biden Official Complains Big Tech Doesn’t Censor Enough…


 The Campus Trans Diktat: No Debate, No Dissent—And No Jokes. Before firing me, my university investigated everything I’d said about gender ideology, right down to the satirical quips I’d made on Twitter.


Spectator:  How science became politicized - New rules from a leading journal do not bode well


 "A Dangerous Escalation": Majority Of Americans Think Biden Speech Was "Designed To Incite Conflict"


 Germany Rules Out Keeping Nuclear Power On Despite Energy Crisis





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I've never seen a period in my life where leaders are so steadfastly determined to move in a provably wrong direction - like the Green German Economy Minister Robert Habeck - and take an entire economy into the trash bin while putting people at real risk of privation; nor have I seen a period where the governed have put up with it with hardly a peep of protest. It's remarkable.

Has anyone thought to demand that Habeck lays out his plan for Germany to see it through the coming winter, present his evidence? Where is the power coming from, what are the assumptions? Is Russia suddenly going to become a reliable source of gas, oil, and coal? Are sanctions assumed to be working? Is the Rhine suddenly going to return to normal levels and allow coal transports to resume? What is the forecast? It's not an overly complicated job to pore over past energy consumption, assume economic growth, and project the immediate future. But there seems to be no will to insist on scrutinizing the proof. And there seems to be little effort on the part of media to voice the concerns of the governed, if they're articulated at all. The arrogance and hubris of the German leaders is simply astounding. I hope for their sake it's a mild winter. Most of the EU countries have managed to fill, or nearly fill, their underground gas reserves storage prior to the Russians closing the Nordstream tap. But this represents only 3 months' worth of gas. What's the plan, the forecast of demand versus expected supply?
#1 Aggie on 2022-09-07 10:19 (Reply)
I've never seen a period in my life where leaders are so steadfastly determined to move in a provably wrong direction

Yes. It's mind boggling.

I have never seen a ruling class so out of touch with reality.
#1.1 feeblemind on 2022-09-07 10:39 (Reply)
It is intentional. It is the philosophy of the World Economic Forum. Every political candidate and potential government employee should be asked about his connection if any with the WEF and that should be a disqualifier. The goal of the WEF is absolute power over the people and two classes only; them the rich class and everyone else the destitute class. That is their goal and they will use chaos to make it happen.

I believe that all Democrats and many Republicans are on board with the WEF agenda. We aren't going to save ourselves with talk and since they can now easily steal elections we aren't going to vote ourselves out of genocide either. Wake up!
#1.2 OneGuy on 2022-09-07 10:46 (Reply)
re Germany Rules Out Keeping Nuclear Power On Despite Energy Crisis

related

Europe Is Sacrificing Its Ancient Forests for Energy

QUOTE:
Governments bet billions on burning timber for green power. The Times went deep into one of the continent’s oldest woodlands to track the hidden cost.

Burning wood was never supposed to be the cornerstone of the European Union’s green energy strategy.

. . . European governments count wood power toward their clean-energy targets. But research shows it can be dirtier than coal.

But today, as demand surges amid a Russian energy crunch, whole trees are being harvested for power. And evidence is mounting that Europe’s bet on wood to address climate change has not paid off.

Forests in Finland and Estonia, for example, once seen as key assets for reducing carbon from the air, are now the source of so much logging that government scientists consider them carbon emitters.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/07/world/europe/eu-logging-wood-pellets.html
#2 feeblemind on 2022-09-07 10:32 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Nearly 1 In 4 Democratic Voters Believe Men Can Get Pregnant: Poll

I’m Alex, and I'm an intersex young person. Here's what that means.
#3 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 11:07 (Reply)
And it comes with an interpreter.
#3.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-09-07 11:31 (Reply)
indyjonesouthere: And it comes with an interpreter.

Alex is offering a teaching moment. Are you saying Alex doesn't exist? Or that Alex is lying? Or what?

“Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.” — Robert Heinlein.
#3.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 11:52 (Reply)
So what is your point? Are you saying that Alex can get pregnant? Or even more to the original point that a man can get pregnant?

Alex has a birth abnormality. He did not and cannot change that. That is in no way related to the notion that a person can choose their gender.
#3.1.1.1 mudbug on 2022-09-07 12:14 (Reply)
mudbug: So what is your point?

That there is a great deal of variation in humans, including some people who are born with a mix of characteristics associated with sex. You might wish it were not so, but life is complicated.
#3.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 12:22 (Reply)
All life-forms, including plants, display only two types of chromosome, X and Y, with those possessing two X chromosomes in their cellular structure being female, while those with X and Y are male. Individuals unfortunate to be biologically intersex are rare examples of when things develop wrongly and all intersex individuals are varying combinations of the only two sexes which are available. This is the undeniable reality.
#3.1.1.2.1 DeGaulle on 2022-09-07 14:00 (Reply)
DeGaulle: All life-forms, including plants, display only two types of chromosome

Well, that's not quite correct. Some organisms can change their biological sex regardless of their genetic inheritance, such as certain species of turtles. The platyfish has three sex chromosomes. Some organisms even have multiple mating types, such as tetrahymena which has seven.

DeGaulle: X and Y, with those possessing two X chromosomes in their cellular structure being female, while those with X and Y are male.

In birds, females are heteromorphic (ZW), rather than homomorphic (XX) as in humans.

DeGaulle: Individuals unfortunate to be biologically intersex are rare examples of when things develop wrongly and all intersex individuals are varying combinations of the only two sexes which are available.

Intersex is not necessarily an unfortunate condition (leaving aside social ostracism). It can, however, result in gender identity not matching the external sex organs. In the olden days (last week or so), people would beat up on those they considered "sissies," males that display feminine characteristics, or "dykes," androgynous females.

Those Were the Days
#3.1.1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 14:21 (Reply)
Teen born with male genitals and raised as a boy becomes pregnant after surprise discovery
#3.1.1.3 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 12:26 (Reply)
Z: That there is a great deal of variation in humans, including some people who are born with a mix of characteristics associated with sex. You might wish it were not so, but life is complicated.

Apparently, you decided not to read my post. I said he was born with a birth abnormality. In what way does that not admit to a "great deal of variation in humans.?"

Your following post about Mikey just adds to my point.
QUOTE:
Mikey was diagnosed with Persistent Müllerian duct syndrome (PMDS), a rare condition in which a person has male external genitals, with female reproductive organs internally.


Mikey had a birth anomaly. Like Alex, Mikey did not choose his situation - much less his gender which is the point. Are you saying that the 22% of Democrats who believe that a man can get pregnant are thinking of those rare people with birth anomalies? They are not and you know it.
#3.1.1.3.1 mudbug on 2022-09-07 12:43 (Reply)
mudbug: I said he was born with a birth abnormality.

You can *characterize" as an abnormality, but the fact is that biological and gender sexuality is highly diverse in humans. Always has been.

mudbug: Mikey did not choose his situation - much less his gender which is the point.

Exactly. Now you got it.
#3.1.1.3.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 13:45 (Reply)
Z: You can *characterize" as an abnormality, but the fact is that biological and gender sexuality is highly diverse in humans. Always has been.

I'm not "characterizing" it as anything. The definition of an abnormality is something that occurs very rarely. That there are lots of different gender abnormalities doesn't change the fact that they are abnormalities.

mudbug: Mikey did not choose his situation - much less his gender which is the point.

Z: Exactly. Now you got it.

Rather than try to tell me that I have apparently come upon some new, more enlightened understanding of the situation (I haven't), which I take as a bit condescending and insulting, let's leave it at, "we agree."

You continue to sidestep the issue that almost a quarter of Democrats believe that a man can get pregnant by bringing up the canard of the people with birth anomalies which is disingenuous at best.
#3.1.1.3.1.1.1 mudbug on 2022-09-07 15:52 (Reply)
mudbug: I'm not "characterizing" it as anything.

abnormal: different from what is usual or expected, especially in a way that worries somebody or is harmful or not wanted

But sure, you were using the word in its neutral sense. In any case, we are in agreement that Mikey did not choose his gender, even though it doesn't conform to stereotypes.
#3.1.1.3.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 16:10 (Reply)
To use Mikey him as an example of a 'male' that got pregnant is ridiculous.
#3.1.1.3.2 Eeyore on 2022-09-07 15:08 (Reply)
Eeyore: To use Mikey him as an example of a 'male' that got pregnant is ridiculous.

Mikey was raised as a male from birth, lived as a male, who has a penis, and got pregnant.
#3.1.1.3.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 16:12 (Reply)
Raised as a male and lived as a male does not change his physical aberration. He wasn't male.
#3.1.1.3.2.1.1 Eeyore on 2022-09-07 18:34 (Reply)
Eeyore: Raised as a male and lived as a male does not change his physical aberration. He wasn't male.

Then "he wasn't male" with a penis. You're almost there!
#3.1.1.3.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-08 07:39 (Reply)
No. I'm not almost there. Your conclusions are wrong.
#3.1.1.3.2.1.1.1.1 Eeyore on 2022-09-08 08:34 (Reply)
"Are you saying Alex doesn't exist? Or that Alex is lying?"



Again, you're deflecting. You can't seem to make an argument without doing so. No one here called Alex a liar or claimed Alex doesn't exist. Stop. It's something that wouldn't be tolerated in a middle school debate class.

What someone here--you--IS doing is exploiting a child with a very rare condition for ideological reasons. It's sick and cruel.

The use of the thoroughly discredited "common as redheads" nonsense is the first clue that this kid is being used.

And no, I won't get drawn into a "LINKS" game with you--you've seen the multiple papers refuting Fausto-Sterling's conclusions.

You just ignore them because they don't support your ideology.
#3.1.1.4 SK on 2022-09-07 13:05 (Reply)
"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." -- Euripides
#3.1.1.4.1 Zachinoff on 2022-09-07 13:49 (Reply)
SK: The use of the thoroughly discredited "common as redheads" nonsense is the first clue that this kid is being used.

About 0.1% of births entail ambiguous genitalia. See, for instance, Aydin et al., Frequency of Ambiguous Genitalia in 14,177 Newborns in Turkey, Journal of the Endocrine Society 2019.

SK: And no, I won't get drawn into a "LINKS" game with you--you've seen the multiple papers refuting Fausto-Sterling's conclusions.

You could post a citation in as many words as it you took to say you won't.
#3.1.1.4.2 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 13:59 (Reply)
"You could post a citation in as many words as it you took to say you won't."

Why should I? They can be found by anyone in less than a minute. My point isn't that the claim is based on a false study--it's that you've seen those refutations and obviously don't care enough to stop exploiting a young person. But of course you know what I was doing and simply tried yet again to deflect from the point I was actually making.

Your own link puts the lie to the redhead claim.

I'll style a question after your pattern: Why are you participating in the exploitation of a child with a rare and unfortunate condition simply to make a political point?
#3.1.1.4.2.1 SK on 2022-09-07 15:12 (Reply)
Probably because Quibble-DickZ have nothing better to do since they don't seem to lead normal livez.
#3.1.1.4.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-09-07 17:24 (Reply)
And I don't care.

Why SHOULD I care? Ain't my business, ain't my fault, ain't my problem.

'teachable moment' be damned. This is an attention-seeking fool screaming 'Look at me! I'm SO VERY SPECIAL that I've got to TEACH all of you just HOW I'M SO SPECIAL!"

And what would the result be of FORCING me to 'care' about this particular issue?
#3.2 JLawson on 2022-09-07 13:05 (Reply)
Alex is a fluke but you insist on maintaining that such a condition is common. The only "common" in the gender bender dystopia is the fragility of the gender benders.

The butchery of the medical profession to latch onto that fragility for monetary gain is criminal.
#3.3 indyjonesouthere on 2022-09-07 13:24 (Reply)
indyjonesouthere: Alex is a fluke but you insist on maintaining that such a condition is common.

Alex is an example, but he is not alone. There are many types of intersex, and many reasons why people are transgender. That doesn't change because you find it uncomfortable.
#3.3.1 Zachriel on 2022-09-07 14:04 (Reply)
I am scarcely uncomfortable with the rarities of life but you have an affliction with trying to promote these rarities into widespread normality within the early teen and pre-teen populace. It is by necessity that progressives mandate that "normal" shall not exist when we know that it does.

It is, admittedly, quite profitable for the pharma and medical profession. It also finds a quite acceptable home in the perverted halls of universities fashionable intellectual crowd. It is there that we find no perversions or obfuscations unacceptable to the Kinsey crowd.
#3.3.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-09-07 15:32 (Reply)
QUOTE:
Democratic voters believe things that are false.


One-quarter of democrats think that men can get pregnant. Wow. Simply amazing. Until you stop and think about all the other things democrats believe. Of course it isn’t just democrats. Republicans, like Dick Chaney, believe that Donald Trump is the single biggest threat to the Republic. Ever!

Many ignoramuses believe whole heartily that green energy - windmills, solar panels and electric cars - will keep the planet from burning up. California is a bright shining example of how these ideas are complete bunk. But no matter, we shall pursue the very bad ideas with gusto. It matters not one bit how many people suffer. The so called elites will not suffer. They go about their lives as normal. Some consuming more energy in a year, than a family of five can in ten.

Much like the economics of communism; no matter how many times it is pointed out, with real world examples of complete catastrophe, the elite still believe in the viability. As many have pointed out, there simply is not enough copper and other elements, to build this so called green future.

Simon Michaux, an Associate Professor of Geometallurgy at the Geological Survey of Finland in the Circular Economy, has a nice video presentation, laying out the facts. Hat tip to Powerline.
#4 B. Hammer on 2022-09-07 11:15 (Reply)
Can we assume the Quibble-DickZ are part of that 25%?
#4.1 Zachinoff on 2022-09-07 11:25 (Reply)
“Ignorance is curable, stupid is forever.” — Robert Heinlein.
Hahahaaa
Stupid is, as stupid does. - Forest Gump
#4.1.1 B. Hammer on 2022-09-07 14:33 (Reply)
And it's the goal of the woke/leftists to continue to get the other people to say things are true that they know are not true. It's Orwellian and Soviet in thinking. 2+2 = 5
#4.2 grant1863 on 2022-09-07 12:29 (Reply)
The new science rejects basic laws of the old science. For example, they firmly believe in free lunches. In fact, their science relies on the availability of free lunches.
#5 Jerryskids on 2022-09-07 13:52 (Reply)
Jordan Peterson to Hillsdale grads on "suffering". A fragile culture is a declining culture. We have fragility throughout the culture in which we find far too many are fearful and lack any sense of critical thinking in order to overcome those fears.
#6 indyjonesouthere on 2022-09-07 13:53 (Reply)

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