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Tuesday, August 2. 2022

Dr. Gustav Zander's Victorian-Era Exercise Machines

The Earth Just Started Spinning Faster Than Ever Before And Scientists Don't Know Why

Constitution Grove — the Navy’s White Oak Forest on a High Tech Base

Court Documents Reveal Canada’s Travel Ban Had No Scientific Basis

NY Times: Democrats Should Be Afraid of Parents, Very Afraid. “The @nytimes is so afraid of parents and how we will vote this November they decided to write a hit piece on us. Great sign.”

“GREEN” IS UNSUSTAINABLE

A CLOWN-CAR ADMINISTRATION

Victor Davis Hanson: Does GOP Get To Play By Radical Left's New Rules?

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I can't understand the article about the earth spinning, but I hope this doesn't mean the next maggies farm hike will be in cleveland?

#1 maddog on 2022-08-02 08:21 (Reply)

It's the added angular momentum from the Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.

Or more likely something heavy sinking in the lowerr mantle. Rising surface temperatures would tend to expand the atmosphere, which would slow rotation, so climate change is being mentioned as the all-purpose excuse for anything somebody doesn't understand.

#1.1 Another Guy named Dan on 2022-08-02 08:48 (Reply)

Another Guy named Dan: Rising surface temperatures would tend to expand the atmosphere, which would slow rotation

As pointed out by Walter Munk in 2002, melting ice due to global warming should cause the Earth to spin slightly faster (due to less stress on the rocks beneath the ice, the Earth becoming less flat at the poles and more round overall). See Munk, Twentieth century sea level: An enigma, PNAS 2002.

#1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 11:02 (Reply)

Ahhh, but you climate change grifters would say; that if it were cooling that would shrink the atmosphere making it heavier and with less friction to rotation. Quite a grift you got going there. No matter what happens it can be explained away with double talk and gobble de gook.

#1.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-08-02 11:12 (Reply)

OneGuy: if it were cooling that would shrink the atmosphere making it heavier and with less friction to rotation.

The mass of the atmosphere is very small, but we'd be happy to look at any scientific paper that determines the size of that effect.

#1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 12:08 (Reply)

Z: ...we'd be happy to look at any scientific paper that determines the size of that effect.

I can't tell you what a comfort that is.

#1.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2022-08-02 12:13 (Reply)

"scientific paper!! We don't need no scientific paper".

The NWO tells you what to believe and censors whatever they don't want you to know.

#1.1.1.1.1.2 OneGuy on 2022-08-02 12:15 (Reply)

OneGuy: "scientific paper!! We don't need no scientific paper".

Let us know when you can provide evidence for your claim.

#1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 12:18 (Reply)

In Quibble-DickZ translation: Do all the work for us.

#1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-08-02 14:06 (Reply)

June 29th? Does this mean I'm going to be 1.59 milliseconds late for everything for the rest of the year? Or even the rest of my life?

Time DO fly when you're havin' fun.

#1.2 Mike Anderson (Link) on 2022-08-02 11:44 (Reply)

I haven't read why "The Earth Just Started Spinning Faster Than Ever Before" (yet) but it can only be one of two things:

A. Climate change

2. EVs

z. Aliens

#2 Phloda on 2022-08-02 09:06 (Reply)

Possible 4th?
More hot air from Washington?
Doesn't seem possible.

#2.1 Don on 2022-08-02 09:53 (Reply)

Which would be a longer book: The things scientists know, or the things scientists don’t know?

#3 B. Hammer on 2022-08-02 10:22 (Reply)

B. Hammer: Which would be a longer book: The things scientists know, or the things scientists don’t know?

The things scientists don't know. And, there is a vast section of that book filled with blank pages, the things unknown that are as yet undreamed of.

#3.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 10:37 (Reply)

No, conservatives don't get to play by the Left's rules - that's Rule #1.

#4 Jerryskids on 2022-08-02 11:09 (Reply)

VDH is keeping a list. Oh my, what a list of leftist insurrection/treason it is.

Victor believes that the republicans have learned that the Marquess of Queensberry Rules no longer apply. He mentions this quite often on his podcast, which I highly recommend.

Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy are not the men for the job of fixing the Justice Department. The rot is so deep, especially in the FBI, that it will take some Trump like backbone to fix. Those two are too much apart of the Deep State, and scared silly of the media, to even lift the veil and expose the corruption. Half those corrupt FBI bastards need to be immediately put on unpaid leave, their security clearances revoked, while an investigation takes place. The other half should be keelhauled, and sent to the bottom of the ocean.

#5 B. Hammer on 2022-08-02 11:25 (Reply)

In addition to his satire, VDH also displays his classical chops, betting that most readers wouldn't have had it in school:
"Have leftists ever read Thucydides on the stasis at Corcyra and his warning that zealots who destroy laws, customs, and traditions for short-term gain, soon rue the day they began making such changes when, in vain, they seek refuge in the very sanctuaries of behavior that they have destroyed?"
see: Thucydides 3.82-83
Truly, what is old is new again...

#5.1 Jeff Allen on 2022-08-02 12:41 (Reply)

I'm not sure fighting by the Left's rules is a good way to win, but just fighting seems to have pretty good results. You just have to decide to be serious. Ron deSantis is serious, and by fighting seriously he gets results:

https://flvoicenews.com/paypal-unfreezes-moms-for-liberty-funds-after-desantis-announces-crackdown-on-woke-banking/

…”PayPal suddenly released the funds after Governor DeSantis’ press conference announcing he wants legislation passed to prohibit transmitters like PayPal from discriminating against customers for their religious, political or social beliefs. Descovich had spoken about her PayPal experience at the press conference.”

…”The governor also wants the proposed legislation to apply to Wall Street banks and credit card companies.

“They’re using things like social credit scores to be able to marginalize people that they don’t like,” DeSantis said Thursday.”

….”DeSantis’ announcement Thursday took a stand against banks and fund managers using the “woke” environmental, social and governance criteria (ESG). The ESG criteria is used by socially conscious investors to screen potential investments.”

#6 Aggie on 2022-08-02 11:52 (Reply)

Aggie: PayPal suddenly released the funds after Governor DeSantis’ press conference announcing he wants legislation passed to prohibit transmitters like PayPal from discriminating against customers for their religious, political or social beliefs.

Sure, under that legal precept, a private business can be forced to raise money for Nazis. So much for the "conservative" notion of limited government.

#6.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 12:14 (Reply)

Remember when the ACLU went to court to protect the first amendment rights of Nazis to express their point of view?

I do.

#6.1.1 jm01 on 2022-08-02 12:31 (Reply)

jm01: Remember when the ACLU went to court to protect the first amendment rights of Nazis to express their point of view?

Sure, and the government can't restrict their First Amendment rights. However, you can't be forced to support them, and businesses aren't required to serve them and can close their doors to Nazis. That's what the First Amendment means.

"More than 180 businesses, virtually every one in Pulaski, agreed to close Saturday." 'There’s not a soul out anywhere,' Police Chief Stanley Newton said Saturday morning, a few hours before the supremacists arrived. 'You’d think it was a ghost town.'”
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1989-10-08-mn-357-story.html

#6.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 12:40 (Reply)

And yet, they refunded the money and re-opened the fund raiser immediately. Their case for arbitrarily refusing business on the basis of undisclosed and undefined 'reasons' was so strong, they folded as soon as the governor brought up the subject. Maybe they'll change their mind, eh?

#6.1.1.1.1 Aggie on 2022-08-02 12:51 (Reply)

and the Pulaski businesses declined to engage in any commercial transactions on that day, and made the decision prior to any engagement with the Nazi group.

PayPal didn't decline to engage with Moms for Liberty. They entered into a business relationship that lasted for an entire year before they unilaterally chose to freeze funds for which they had a fiduciary responsibility, and thereafter refused to release those funds.

#6.1.1.1.1.1 Christopher B on 2022-08-02 15:01 (Reply)

Aggie: And yet, they refunded the money and re-opened the fund raiser immediately.

That's their choice. It's called reputational hazard, and it's a decision businesses often face. So, who is to decide? The government can't discriminate between the political views of Nazis and Moms for Liberty. Businesses can.

Christopher B: they unilaterally chose to freeze funds for which they had a fiduciary responsibility, and thereafter refused to release those funds.

They certainly couldn't keep the funds. They could either return them to the donors, or release them to the recipient. They are under no obligation to continue the relationship.

#6.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 15:49 (Reply)

You lost me. Where is a private business being forced to raise money for Nazis?

#6.1.2 mudbug on 2022-08-02 12:40 (Reply)

mudbug: Where is a private business being forced to raise money for Nazis?

DeSantis proposed that businesses such as PayPal shouldn't be able to discriminate against customers for their religious, political or social beliefs. Nazism is a social and political belief, and would, therefore, be protected under his proposed law.

#6.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 12:48 (Reply)

So does Paypal have to give any of its money to a Nazi?

#6.1.2.1.1 mudbug on 2022-08-02 12:54 (Reply)

mudbug: So does Paypal have to give any of its money to a Nazi?

Under the proposed law, it would have to participate in channeling funds to Nazis.

#6.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 12:56 (Reply)

Zach, what's your position on the Masterpiece Cakeshop case?

For reference: Baker forced to make gay wedding cakes

#6.1.2.1.1.1.1 RJP on 2022-08-02 13:12 (Reply)

Oops. Looks like you lost them\they\her\she\it.

What ever happened to Godwin's Law?

#6.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 B. Hammer on 2022-08-02 14:47 (Reply)

Paypal is not forced to fund or raise funds for anybody. They are only required not to discriminate against customers for their political beliefs.

Since you seem to support private businesses like Paypal, and presumably that would extend to banks, would you support the decision of a bank not to accept deposits from a conservative (which has already happened)? How about banks could refuse deposits from a leftist group such as BLM or SPLC?

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2 mudbug on 2022-08-02 13:20 (Reply)

It's hilarious when the (((Quibble-DickZ))) keep tripping over their own dickz (specious arguments).

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.1 Zachinoff on 2022-08-02 13:59 (Reply)

It's all great till it hits them. Unfortunately, it doesn't hit them often or hard enough.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.1.1 mudbug on 2022-08-02 14:44 (Reply)

mudbug: Paypal is not forced to fund or raise funds for anybody.

Not currently.

mudbug: They are only required not to discriminate against customers for their political beliefs.

Not currently. The proposal would require them to not discrimination on political beliefs, which would include Nazis raising funds for white supremacist causes.

mudbug: Since you seem to support private businesses like Paypal, and presumably that would extend to banks, would you support the decision of a bank not to accept deposits from a conservative (which has already happened)?

No. But the wisdom of their choices is not the issue, but who gets to decide. Currently, in most cases, a business can refuse to cooperate with Nazis raising money for white supremacist causes. DeSantis (and apparently you) would force businesses to do so. So much for an unintrusive government.

RJP: what's your position on the Masterpiece Cakeshop case?

The same as it would be if he refused to make a cake for a mixed race couple, even if he claimed religious reasons. He could, however, refuse to make a swastika cake for a Nazi.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 15:44 (Reply)

Z: ... But the wisdom of their choices is not the issue...

Correct. That's why I would oppose banks refusing deposits from members of the Democratic Socialists of America or the Communist Party USA (is it still around after they decided the Democrats are espousing most of their ideas?), or the Democratic Party. I think people aligned with those organizations are displaying absolutely no wisdom but I am opposed to public accommodation businesses such as banks, utilities, etc. from deciding who their customers are based on political views. When you choose one political view to target, you allow others to be a target too. But even if you limit to Nazis and white supremacists, those turns get thrown around a lot lately and the people are accused of that are pretty much always not. So under your ideas, a person can find it impossible to live normally because someone accused him of being a Nazi.

As for groups supporting white supremacy, nobody seems to be threatening the banking relationships of people who support the view that whites are inherently morally inferior.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.1 mudbug on 2022-08-02 17:05 (Reply)

mudbug: I think people aligned with those organizations are displaying absolutely no wisdom but I am opposed to public accommodation businesses such as banks, utilities, etc. from deciding who their customers are based on political views.

The question is whether you would legally compel a business to work with Nazis raising money for white supremacist causes. It's like you're turning the First Amendment upside down.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 17:14 (Reply)

Here's a basic rundown on political discrimination law in the U.S:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomspiggle/2021/02/24/is-political-discrimination-in-the-workplace-legal/?sh=6e8f10d068dd

If you want such protection, you might consider moving to a "big government" state, such as California.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-08-03 08:01 (Reply)

Dear Mr. Zachriel,

We at Fat Cat Bank & Trust have recently been apprised of ideas you hold with which we just cannot abide.

We understand that you have shown support for the position that a man can be a woman just because he says so, that you have advocated for restricting one's natural right of self defense, that you have stated that because you believe the climate is changing, that certain businesses should be discouraged by government policy and others should be funded with money from people who may disagree. We've also been led to believe that you support previous Virginia governor Ralph Northam's ideas about "abortion" after birth and that you in general support the policies of George Soros. We understand that you have supported the destructive policies around fighting the COVID-19 virus which has cost the lives of thousands, maimed countless others, and caused the stunting of social and educational growth of countless children.

We find that these policies and ideas dangerous to a free society and are frankly abhorrent. For these reasons, we've decided to no longer do business with you. We should let you know that many banks have started keeping a list of people with undesirable views and we have added your name to that list. A check for the money in your account will be forwarded to you when all your accounts are settled.

Sincerely,

F. C Charley
President of Fat Cat Bank & Trust

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.2 mudbug on 2022-08-02 17:35 (Reply)

mudbug: We understand that you have shown support . . .

While you have wildly misrepresented our views, we will take our business elsewhere and recommend others do the same. As you put in writing that you are colluding with other businesses in restraint of trade, we have forwarded your email to the appropriate authorities.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 20:50 (Reply)

That's some funny shit right there and the (((Quibble-DickZ))) don't seem to get it.

#6.1.2.1.1.1.2.2.2.2 Zachinoff on 2022-08-03 11:11 (Reply)

"Sure, under that legal precept, a private business can be forced... "

We force then to do a lot of things so why not force them to treat their customers fairly and not discriminate based on political choices.

I might add that it would appear that many private businesses are already being forced to discriminate by the left/commies to try to undermine democracy and the constitution. So how can anyone have a problem with forcing them to obey the words and intent of our great constitution?

#6.1.3 OneGuy on 2022-08-02 14:56 (Reply)

OneGuy: We force then to do a lot of things so why not force them to treat their customers fairly and not discriminate based on political choices.

Because once you do that, then they have to cooperate with Nazis raising money for white supremacist causes.

OneGuy: I might add that it would appear that many private businesses are already being forced to discriminate by the left/commies to try to undermine democracy and the constitution.

In what way? What force of law?

#6.1.3.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 15:51 (Reply)

"then they have to cooperate with Nazis raising money for white supremacist causes."

There are no Nazis they have all died. You mean people who either call themselves Nazis or who others call Nazies but you fail to understands that it is simply a slur or a provocation like calling yourself a N-word or someone calling themselves the N-word. It's either a slur or insult or it is (if used by self) a provocative statement. It is in other words meaningless. You should/could care less about so-called Nazis, DUH!

As for white supremacists Have you ever actually seen one? Maybe Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schummer but otherwise there are none. Yes there are people who are slurred by calling them white supremacist and it is just as bad a slur as calling them the N-word, racism and ignorant (this applies to you).

#6.1.3.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-08-02 18:59 (Reply)

OneGuy: There are no Nazis they have all died.

Of course, there are Nazis, neo-Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, radical communists, and extremists of all stripes. The point remains the same. Should the government compel a business to work with white supremacists in the furtherance of their aims?

#6.1.3.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 20:52 (Reply)

Black nationalists ands communists and fascists and anarchists are all left wing groups. When I lived in Germany some 50 years ago I actually knew some nazis. Worked with them, one was my physics professor, some lived in the town I lived in. They are all dead. Neo-Nazi is a insult/slur you put onto people you don't agree with. That doesn't actually "make" them Nazis. You do understand that I hope. All the rest of it is fake. Either those groups you speak of are simply labeled such by the communist Democrats OR they are trolling you by calling themselves that just like a rapper calls himself a N-word. I hope you understand that.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-08-02 21:25 (Reply)

OneGuy: Black nationalists ands communists and fascists and anarchists are all left wing groups.

Most Black nationalists are left-wing. Communists are left-wing. Fascists are right-wing because they advocate an absolute hierarchical society and have been historically treated as such. Successor groups, such as Neo-Nazis, are also considered right-wing. Anarchists are generally on the left.

OneGuy: {Nazis} are all dead.

Self-Avowed Nazi GOP Candidate Plans 'Anti-White Hate' Vigil

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-03 07:53 (Reply)

In the 60's the left tried to relabel fascists as right wing. But fascism is just a different version of socialism and both are paths to communism.

You don't seem to understand Neo Nazism. It is an in your face push to get attention and be belligerent in exactly the same way rappers use the N-word. It doesn't actually mean they are Nazis. The never joined Hitlers army or fought in WW II. They are trolling you. Possibly because they are mentally ill just like the Trans community. And possibly because they have been called names so they embrace it to dare you to call them out. But just like a man who calls himself a woman is still not a woman, a person who calls himself a Nazi or neo Nazi is still not a Nazi. It is funny to watch them troll you (and the stupid left) and you buy into it.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-08-03 13:03 (Reply)

It's part of the rules for radicals. You label the opposition and then you focus on them. For example:
"Project Veritas has obtained whistleblower materials from official FBI training and instruction, highlighting images that are defined as evidence of Militia Violent Extremists or MVE’s. Among the material now identified by the FBI as extreme are pictures of the Gadsden flag, Betsy Ross flag, Patriot symbols, Molon Labe and a host of other historic images that are now defined as evidence of Militia Violent Extremism."

So has the FBI simply become an arm of the communist Democrat party?

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 JustMe on 2022-08-03 13:10 (Reply)

OneGuy: In the 60's the left tried to relabel fascists as right wing.

Uh, no. They are right-wing by definition: they advocate a strictly hierarchical society with a single, all-powerful leader; and they see national conflict not as a means, but as the very purpose of a nation.

Fascists were considered right-wing since their inception, and garnered much of their support from the political right.

QUOTE:

"Granted that the 19th century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the 20th century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the 'right', a Fascist century." — Benito Mussolini

That's how ordinary people referred to them, and most scholars have considered them to be on the political right for generations. Even today, neo-fascists are considered to be on the extreme political right.

Nazism and the Radical Right in Austria 1918-1934, Lauridsen.
The Routledge companion to fascism and the far right, Paul Davies.
The Culture of Fascism: Visions of the Far Right in Britain, edited by Gottlieb & Linehan.
Fascism Past and Present, West and East: An International Debate on Concepts and Cases in the Comparative Study of the Extreme Right, Griffin et al.
France in The Era of Fascism: Essays on the French Authoritarian Right, edited by Jenkins.
Fascism and Neofascism: Critical Writings on the Radical Right in Europe (Studies in European Culture and History), edited by Weitz & Fenner.

Rather, the political right in the U.S. has attempted a redefinition just in the last few years.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2022-08-03 15:00 (Reply)

“They are right-wing by definition: they advocate a strictly hierarchical society with a single, all-powerful leader; and they see national conflict not as a means, but as the very purpose of a nation.”

No, no! You have them mixed up with the left that is their goal. Right wing want smaller government, upholding the law and a constitutional republic.

“Fascists were considered right-wing since their inception”

Yeah, that’s the propaganda. In fact Fascism was simply socialism under threat of violence by the government. The government allows the business owners to retain ownership but they must follow every demand and mandate of the government or they send the brownshirts in to beat you up. It is so far from right wing that your claim is ludicrous on it’s face.

Fascism is simply another form of socialism and no one on the right favors socialism while almost everyone on the left loves socialism.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 OneGuy on 2022-08-03 15:44 (Reply)

OneGuy: You have them mixed up with the left that is their goal.

The left is defined by the advocacy of egalitarianism. Marx, for instance, advocated for a revolutionary and historical process that would result in a classless society, without war, where the state would wither away, and everyone would be equal. Most people on the political left aren't radical, but advocate for social safety nets and pension programs, which has the effect of creating a more equal society.

OneGuy: The government allows the business owners to retain ownership but they must follow every demand and mandate of the government or they send the brownshirts in to beat you up.

You're confusing means and ends. There are authoritarians on the left and on the right. A typical example on the right is a military dictator and his cronies running the government.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-03 16:12 (Reply)

"more equal society."

Can you have a more equal society without taking from me to give to thee? Will this more equal society require that everyone who gets free stuff must work 40 hours a week to make it really equal? The list of countries where socialism has achieved those goals is very short in fact it has zero countries on it. The list of communist countries that began as socialist countries is much longer.

Who labeled these military dictatorships as right wing?? The left wing, duh! The same radical left that calls people white supremacists. It's dishonest BUT dishonesty is the center piece of the left.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-08-03 19:36 (Reply)

OneGuy: Can you have a more equal society without taking from me to give to thee?

People on the left have different ideas of how to achieve greater equality. And economic equality is not the only type of equality. For instance, the left as a concept started with the idea that the aristocracy should not have special privileges.

OneGuy: Who labeled these military dictatorships as right wing??

Usage of the political terms left and right for over two centuries.

#6.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-03 20:21 (Reply)

I agree.

As much as I might enjoy the schadenfreude of making the left have to eat the mistreatment they have inflicted on the rest of us and as much as I recognize that the non-left often fight at a disadvantage against the left when it confines itself to legal means when the left does not and as much as they deserve it, the crap sandwich they've given the rest of us, using their immoral tactics would only give them the final victory over our system where it is the law that rules and not the man or mob.

As Thomas More is quoted in "A Man for All Seasons":

QUOTE:

"What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil? ... And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you – where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's, and if you cut them down – and you're just the man to do it – do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"

Having said that, a great many of the items VDH lists are not out of bounds and should be done as soon as possible.

#6.2 mudbug on 2022-08-02 12:36 (Reply)

What if the devil is the arbiter and enforcer of the law? What if the devil uses the law as a weapon as well as a shield? What then?

One could argue that is the situation we are gradually finding ourselves in.

#6.2.1 feeblemind on 2022-08-02 12:58 (Reply)

If the Devil is the arbiter and enforcer of the law than we are surely in a 2nd Amendment situation. I'm not sure we're quite there yet but I agree we are much closer than I want.

The problem is presuming the success of a rebellion (and let's not contemplate the alternative), with what should we replace the system?

#6.2.1.1 mudbug on 2022-08-02 13:56 (Reply)

.... with what should we replace the system?

There is nothing better that anyone has come up with.

It always goes back to what Adams said. The Constitution is for a moral and religious people.

#6.2.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2022-08-02 14:24 (Reply)

Agreed and therein lies the dilemma I mentioned.

After the revolution, the winners setup essentially the same Constitution but bad people get elected to office and the bad stuff continues. Would there be a Reconstruction type system, as after the Civil War, setup after the revolution? A parting of the ways by states who only pay lip service to the Constitution - and who defines "lip service"? A "Reign of Terror" a la French Revolution executed by the "good guys" who purge those not supportive enough of the Constitution?

#6.2.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2022-08-02 15:43 (Reply)

NYT: democrats should be afraid of parents...

This is nothing more than the Times propagandists being angry because nobody trusts the Times. The paper has, essentially, put itself in the democratic camp and is complaining that it is being abandoned.

The NYT has learned nothing. And most major media outlets have learned nothing. Just as the anti-Trumpers have learned nothing. The uniparty should be afraid of people. Trump is a weapon of the people to use against the dark side of the grifters and the spoilers.

#7 indyjonesouthere on 2022-08-02 14:14 (Reply)

Good post on game theory as it applies to the Right playing by the Left's rules. "Tit-for-tat" is the optimal strategy. Give the Left a dose of their own medicine, stop playing by your "gentleman's" rules when you're not playing against gentlemen.

#8 Jerryskids on 2022-08-02 16:08 (Reply)

Jerryskids: "Tit-for-tat" is the optimal strategy.

Not always. It depends on the exact parameters. While tit-for-tat is an excellent overall strategy, it can lead to a death spiral, especially when there is the possibility of miscommunication. Tit-for-tat with forgiveness can avoid this problem. In multiplayer environments, master-slave can beat tit-for-tat.

But that actually misses the lesson of tit-for-tat. Tit-for-tat is a means of building trust, and trust pays off for both players more than mistrusting each other.

#8.1 Zachriel on 2022-08-02 17:05 (Reply)

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