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Tuesday, May 31. 2022Survey: Do any of our readers smoke weed or use edibles?
In my view, its best use is for music appreciation. Beer does not have that benefit. I do not advocate being a chronic stoner any more than I advocate alcohol abuse - it does not work well in life and both are dangerous for vulnerable people.
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Marijuana potentiates schizophrenia and other psychotic illnesses. However, after age 25 (30 for females) you likely can safely START. Of course, no one starts then, they start much earlier, and use research facts like that to rationalise their cannabis use by pretending they it says something else.
Always beware of research that tells you what you want to hear, especially when relayed to you by someone else that just desperately wants it to be true. Cannabinoids can reduce anxiety. There are better choices, with fewer side effects. 13, now 14 replies on this. Silly News junkie just knew he’d get a response. I chimed in below.
In times of confusion, where I've felt blinded by a flurry of events, cannabis has been a surprising help.
If one's thoughts sometimes resemble Whoopi Goldburg's dred-locks - and Americans' often do due to the distraction-dense, urban environments we live in, then cannabis can be used as a 'comb' to separate the natty strands from each other, and isolate each thought for a more profound consideration. In the use I recommend, it is not used as a “party drug.” Cannabis is prescribed as a meditative stimulant, with some pleasurable front-effects – like the sweet aroma of SE Asian Sativa strains (made to stimulate laborers, not a ‘couch-patoto’ type, btw), or the rush of inspiration that attends careful usage of Indica dominant straints (call it a Prod Your Muses, if you like). The effect I enjoy most requires a peaceful environment to get the most out of. The way it works is – and of course, the following is going to vary with the strains and tolerances of the users, but… The Cannabis permits your mind to drift lightly over all of your thoughts, even your subconscious, hidden ones, making them available to you, ‘the student,’ to study. Moreover, when the meditation is unforced and passive, then the thoughts that ride foremost to your brow un-prodded are, by virtue of their relative psychic strengths in the competition for your mind’s limited stage, the ones you SHOULD MOST be thinking about. This cerebral selection acts like an innate screen, and has a palliative effect on the confused, over-entertained modern man. It can arrest the obsessive circling around that binds so many ‘stuck’ people to their cycles, or ruts. Examples are people stuck in alcoholism, social media/entertainment addictions, violent relationships. It works by intervening in the monodal obsession by offering new pluralities of alternative ‘fixes’ to their waking problems - fixes that they could not envision in the fog of their circular fugue. And that’s all I got to say about that! :) -S It can turn a ten-mile hike from boring into fascinating. Still use it for that periodically.
But it truly is The Stupid Drug. I try to discourage my young rels and friends from it - I know of no one whose basic intellect and coping skills were ever improved by its use, but I do know many who were compromised by it. You only get a certain number of functioning brain cells, but those are the most important tools for creating a nice life. Seems a shame to disable what you get. Amotivational syndrome is a beast in a high tech, fast moving society. Reefer boy is gonna get left way behind
I have experimented with all varieties of the drug: smoke, oil, spray, etc to try and find pain relief from diabetic neuropathy and enable sleep. So far only large doses of the oil help but then I remain groggy most of the next day. So, for all the hype, it doesn't seem like the cure all they claim.
Tylenol 3 does work but Dr feels this 71 year old might get addicted despite no prior such behaviour so he prescribes 30 a month or 1 a night when 2 a night is perfect. My guess is he's afraid of being charged with over prescribing. And so it goes. I discovered that I was allergic to marijuana at a relatively young age. So not only have I no experience with what all the hype is about, I haven't been able to attend a concert for the last 50 years. Last time I tried was a classical concert with the Baltimore Symphony a couple of decades ago. I had to get up and walk out 10 minutes after it started because a jerk a few rows in front of me lit up a joint. The usher started to give me a hard time until I glared at him and observed if I'd stayed put they'd be calling an ambulance and stopping the performance.
Never did any drugs. Maybe I'm just dense but I see zero recreation value in it and fail to see how it would help me appreciate music. I feel the same way about alcohol, just don't see the value in it. I did just finish almost half a watermelon does that count as a recreational drug. A family member had a doctor suggest some derivative of marijuana for some symptom and I advised them to find a real doctor.
No user here. I tried it decades ago. I found myself laughing without having an idea why. Didn't care for the feeling.
Nope. I don't even like alcohol. Never felt the need to try pot. I hate the way it smells, and I dislike things that alter my consciousness in that direction: I have a natural tendency already, to zone out, which interferes with life and productivity. I have no idea why anyone would want to induce that state deliberately. Maybe if you're naturally high-strung? The only drug I enjoy is caffeine.
I find an occasional toke to be a pleasant experience. As noted, it does enhance music listening, where in my younger days a decent buzz, a 20 oz. bottle of Coke and a few albums on the stereo made for a pleasant evening.
Works pretty well for food appreciation too. Never used them ... though at a particular time in my life, several decades ago, I always wondered what watching certain films would be like, if "under the influence". 2001, Excalibur, and a few others come to mind.
But I never actually tried the stuff. More recently, someone I know accidently overdosed on THC (vaping it) and experienced an hours-long panic attack with paranoia, racing heart, and the terrifying feeling of dying. We almost ended up in the ER before the symptoms eased. Seeing that cured me of any desire to EVER mess with THC. It doesn't agree with me thank goodness. I grew up in the 70's when it was compulsory to try it. Since commenter Bobby says that it can turn a 10 mile hike from boring to fascinating, I might consider giving it a try, but I don't think it would or could expand my mind any more. I have experienced those deep thoughts that early marijuana use seems to prompt. Anyway, I'm never bored. I'm usually happy with my own thoughts. In my experience, marijuana makes me physically uncomfortable, and I just can't wait for it to wear off.
Used daily from age 16 until 22. Quit for a year then a hard user again until 24. I drank a lot for that year.
Most of that duration was in the mid and late 70s. Music sounded GREAT!! Especially up front at large rock concerts. Now I wear hearing aids :-( I haven’t touched it since, though I live in a state where legalized for several years now. It distracted my motivation for school and studying. It enhanced my delinquency as a teenager and young adult. I strongly discourage anyone younger than 25 from using. (Chuckles) which was my age when I decided to leave it behind. I do drink socially. One or two drinks a week. I have developed an intolerance of alcohol. I cannot have more than about 1/2 a standard drink without getting a significant headache.
Doctors have no sympathy for this condition. Or at least they evidence none. So once a week, usually on a friday or sunday evening I will take 1 or 2 10mg edibles and unwind a little. It is not as enjoyable to me as would a couple fingers of scotch, or even a medocre bourbon would be, but one plays the hand one is dealt. You want to really appreciate music? Put down that joint and take some solid piano lessons. Appreciation comes from being smart, not stupid.
Been at concerts when I was younger where people were passing joints down the isle. Just passed it on without using it.
If Texas ever legalizes it, I don't plan on trying it. I tried marijuana a few times in the 70s, but never enough to get "high". I didn't like the harshness of the smoke and after burning my lip once, I was through with it.
A few weeks ago, I tried a CBD edible (supposedly the no THC type) after a neighbor told me how it relaxed her and reduced arthritis pain enough to go to sleep easily. It did make me very drowsy, and I slept for almost 7 hours instead of 4. When I woke up, I had a 'familiar' headache and checked my vitals -- low blood pressure, high heart rate. This 'familiar' headache is a sign that one or more of three things are happening: high blood pressure, low blood pressure, and/or high heart rate (PSVT). It honestly never occurred to me that CBD sold over the counter could have such dramatic effects. Then I did what I should have done first and 'googled' CBD. It disrupts that P-450 metabolism thingie. It is not benign. I really love the smell of good dope, but I quit when I was seventeen.
I dabbled as a teen, quit at 20, and started up again in earnest at 30 when I quit drinking. I have "wake and baked" (smoked a joint first thing) just about every day in the 30+ years since
Before you call me a burnout or stoner, you should also know I earned a BS in Business (graduated Cum Laude, damn Food Nutrition class blew Magna for me) in 2 1/2 years while working full time and being a single parent. I never missed a play or recap or game my kid was in. I became certified in a financial field, passing all 4 sections of the exams given over 2 days, one of only 18% to do so. Starting later than most, I still rose through the ranks in my profession, with my work being adopted and used by international companies. Recently, I became a public official when I was appointed over several other candidates to a high responsibility elected office. I'm in a legal weed state so I don't hide my usage from anyone. I guess I don't fit the mold of what a long time toker should be . I used it in my teens and found I didn't like the effect it had on me. I don't care to be distanced too far from reality, even as scary as it is getting
In my youth I would consume maryjane regularly with friends, usually at parties but also when just hanging out and relaxing. Sometime in my twenties the feeling and experience I had when smoking ceased being enjoyable. Increasingly when I was high I would not want to be in a social setting, would prefer to be by myself. So I stopped.
I ingested a bit of second hand smoke in the 70's while in college, but never stayed in a room where it was being used. Beer and wine were fine for me. Twenty years in the military dissuaded any inclinations I might have had to try it. Haven't used it; likely never will.
I've smoked weed for some 35 years, never touched it until the last day of high school as the penalties for using it in my sport were onerous. Once I moved to the national team I realized everyone on the team smoked weed and I'd be in the clear. So away I went.
I've had periods of heavy use that corresponded to low points in life. I realized the heavy use was leading to bouts of anxiety, for good reason. When I was growing my own, I had tons available and it was top shelf quality too. These days I smoke nearly every day, but just a toot after work much of the time, a small fraction of what I used to consume. Maybe more on the weekend, mowing the lawn or going for a sail while high is enjoyable I work in the design industry, own my own practice. Sometimes when things are hectic and I need to concentrate, I can have a bit of a toot and it'll help me settle in, concentrate on the problem at hand and wave away all the distractions. It lets me get down to drawing and solving design issues. Broadly speaking I far prefer smoking weed to drinking. I've cut way back on the alcohol now and only have a bit on weekends. Along the way I have successfully grown a ton of weed as well with indoor grows, it's work, but it's rewarding. Harvesting a few pounds of sticky bud that you've tended from a small clone is nice. Being able to enjoy it with friends, also good. No different than gardening vegetables in that regard. Now I make money as part of my practice designing multi-million dollar grow ops. The investment market for that is all but dried up now after a few years of frenzy so I don't expect to draw too many more but it's been fun drawing acres of buildings used to grow everything from recreational to medicinal products. Weed ain't what it was for your parents. The genetics are an order of magnitude more powerful than old 70's ditchweed. Some caution is advised. Once in a while I'll have some edibles, it's mostly a body buzz. And yes, music is better with weed (Which is of course a mild hallucinogen). At this point I am increasingly moderating my intake mostly as part of increasing my cardiovascular health. Also as part of weight loss because smoking weed late at night most surely leads to poor food decisions and in turn obesity. Likewise excess weed consumption has estrogenic properties and effects, so smoke enough weed and you'll become skinny fat with man boobs. Not a hot look. My peer group on weekends who I end up smoking with includes doctors, surgeons, fund managers, engineers. It runs the gamut. Plenty of successful people doing it. But also plenty of people in that peer group who have no interest in it. It is a good social lubricant. There is a difference between prescription medical marijuana and recreational marijuana. The government stopped doctors from prescribing opioids and there is no alternative pain medication for legitimate chronic pain. THC isn’t perfect, but it is better than nothing.
I don't like drawing attention to myself from the criminal underworld, even in the mild form that pot requires. I've enjoyed the effect occasionally in the past without ever arranging for regular access. I can't smoke it at all--just cough my lungs out.
Smoking the stuff for almost 50 years. Very successful life. Enjoyed the buzz throughout. Still do. Cutting back on the smoke and trying the gummies more often.
First rule is to never talk about it, yet here I am. Glad to see I'm not that different from many of the commenters. Tried marijuana a few times back in my teens. It's like sex - I never understood the appeal.
A friend of mine who suffers from endometriosis recently hooked me up with some Slow & Steady edible gummies. They seem to help take the edge off of my morning caffeine drink. A couple of times in college. Unimpressed.
And I'm 50 (in base 13) I used for a while when I should have been in college. Fortunately, it was illegal and expensive and I was broke most of the time, so that tended to limit it. Then I decided it was making me stupid (I lost all ability to retain anything that I'd read) so I quit. Eventually I recovered and got a degree in Physics. No interest at this point, though I could get away with it being retired since I don't use my brain that much any more. But I still like having a brain that works. The world is more interesting that way. BTW, I'm only 46 (in hexadecimal).
The spectacle of so many States legalizing cannabis shows that they care much more for tax money than the welfare of the public. I never used it; born with COPD. However, I helped take care of someone a bit older than me who used to be a consistent user when he was a teenager. The guy was brilliant yet damaged mentally from its use. I would never vote to legalize its use since it would ruin too many teenagers' lives.
How do you know News Junkie isn't really a narc and this isn't really a sting? It's amazing how easy it is to trap people. Are you guys smoking something?
LOL. Given that it's legal where I am, whether I do it or not (or anyone I know does it) is immaterial.
In college, I used to hang out with some friends who did all kinds of drugs. I only smoked pot - and by senior year, wasn't even doing much of that. By middle of senior year, they were calling ME the 'narc'. LOL. Especially after my brother applied to join the CIA. Then things got a little weird for me with all of them. But mostly it was all in good fun. And no, he's not in the CIA. He only applied. That I know of. Still a federal crime. DOJ could choose to enforce it any time they wanted.
Some of us live in legal states so there's nothing to hide
Smoked it from Age 18 to Age 35, was seriously addicted to it, and it hurt my grades in college and in professional school. Was finally able to kick it for good. If you took the test to determine if you were an alcoholic, but substituted the word smoke for drink, I was a weedaholic. Weed in the eighties started getting strong, can't even imagine how powerful today's weed is and how dangerous. I worry that my kid's mental health issues are greatly exacerbated by his occasional smoking. Never tried CBD. Legalizing weed was stupid. Lots more mentally ill on the streets now. Plus today's weed really stinks.
I just want to thank all those people who have toked occasionally and declared they're just fine for all the people who listened to them and are not fine. Our cities are filling up with homeless drug addicts, and almost all of them started with pot.
I think long-distance hikers favor it because it is lighter than booze in the backpack. Also, you probably aren't being required to do any heavy thinking on the AT anyway.
And it might help them run faster and farther than the bears.
I always thought Everclear was the intoxicant of choice, as you could also cook and sanitize wounds with it.
I smoked quite a bit in HS and college. Pot is no more a 'gateway drug' than alcohol. I still drink, I stopped smoking years ago.
I do admit that my last puff was 4 years ago, in a social setting with friends. I decided to revisit my youth - and wasn't pleasantly reminded of anything. I had forgotten that I get rather paranoid. I have tried edibles. They don't do anything to me except put me to sleep. My sons both smoke/take edibles. For my elder son, it's helped him find a balance which he'd originally sought through alcohol. He gave up alcohol (thankfully) and now smokes after working hours or with friends. It's his relaxation. My younger son does it less regularly, but also finds it relaxing. Anything can be addictive. I used to eat raw sugar well into my 20s. Loved the stuff, couldn't get enough. Thankfully saw it for what it was and stopped... I could've easily become an alcoholic. It runs in my family and as a teen and young adult I drank heavily in social situations. Probably played a big role with my relations toward the fairer sex...they never went well when I was younger. I scaled that back, too. The fear mongering around pot is misguided and usually based on misleading information and data. I'm not for or against pot - I've seen people who have problems with it, but I've seen more people who do not have problems with it at all. Most of my best friends (all over 40) smoke/eat edibles regularly. 80% of them do, easily. All high-functioning, high-income people. Lawyers, CEOs, SVPs, etc. No doctors that I know of...but I'd not visit a doctor who did that, anyway. I see more people who have problems with alcohol. Many more people with that problem, and almost my son. As a friend of mine who was a valet at a high-end hotel once told me "you know the potheads from the drinkers when they drop off their cars. The potheads are friendly, laughing and pleasant. The drinkers are angry and almost always looking for a fight. I'll take the potheads every day." That, too, has been my experience. It's not for me anymore, hasn't really been for years. But it works for plenty of people I know. I suppose there is some fear mongering but would you want your surgeon to smoke pot? Or your kids school bus driver? I could go on with a long list of tasks/jobs where smoking pot probably bodily harm to someone.
My nephew and his girlfriend smoke pot. About five years ago they moved out of their apartment because they had run up debt and couldn't afford to pay the rent any more. They moved in with her parents "just until they got their debts paid off. You guessed it; they haven't paid down a single debt, they are still always broke but their pot habit eats up haldf his paycheck. I had a friend who for over 340 years kept telling me he could quit anytime he wanted to. He lives on SSI and is just getting by. He injured himself on the job while still high. He still finds enough money to smoke weed though... Well it seems like 340 years but I meant 40 years. Where has the time gone?
Been there, did that 30+ years ago. Not any more.
Amotivational syndrome is real. But weed is also probably the best antidepressant out there. Some of us need that. If you're smart you know when it's no longer helping, and quit. Kinda liked it as a youngster, but it just makes me paranoid since about 21. Very unpleasant. A shame.
I don't do weed. Not interested. Gave up brew, booze, and wine.
Check out the first video on this link https://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2022/06/visage-trois-273.html it talks about the deaths from the vaccine.
I am concerned, since "stoners" always want to go for a drive. There is no curb-side test for THC and no standard for "impaired" so everyone is put at risk. I'd rather they get jail time than be putting me and mine at risk.
Oh, like, wow, man. It's feeling kind of lonely here, like I'm standing in one spot over here and everyone else is over there, looking at me. Why are they all looking at me? What did I do? What's wrong? Man, what a rush.
Guess I better go hang at the HQ for a while. If you raise the age to purchase a semi-automatic gun to 21 shouldn't you also raise the age to vote to 21? Driving too? Smoking? Trans-treatments? Enlistment and the draft? Marriage? Either you are an adult or you are not. I don't see any middle ground.
So just today we hear that the Uvalde shooter was a heavy pot user. Some doctors/experts have already lined up to "excuse" his actions because pot smoking has serious effect on your social and mental health. Yeah! Pot is good shit!
There are so many varieties now with differing effects. In a legal state there are several different ways to dose. As one gal friend tells me, "Back then (late 1970s) I wasn't opposed to getting high. I just didn't want to smoke it." Now she doesn't have to.
Edibles (and oils and waxes) are a whole nother world because they can blend different sources of active ingredients. I find that half of a 10mg edible with a lot of, I think, CBN, helps on those nights when the brain is whirling. Last time was at least a month ago. Here is the thing: walk into any dispensary. 2/3 of the customers are gals. 45 percent older gals who want relief from anxiety, 21 percent young gals who want to get frisky. With those demos, legalization will happen. In north Mesa there is a dispensary the looks just like a high end jewelry store. The only tinted hair among the staff is a couple of blonde streaks in gal's mop. They all wear black slacks and long sleeved white button downs. Exactly zero visible tattoos. If you stand at the entrance to the showroom you would have no idea what they sell. |