We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
As I am a believer that odd environmental chemicals* (from applying teflon, or reheating oils in foods multiple times) have had a great impact on creating the obesity epidemic, I think creating chemical solutions is not detrimental to character. At the moment, we mostly only have the strategy of limiting calories for a long, long, time as a solution, which is tough for people who didn't really gain the weight through lack of discipline, but are are now stuck with hyperdiscipline as their only way out. If it were their fault I would say Tough noogies. You made your bed, now lie in it. But the evidence is now against that understanding. Whatever help they need they should get.
*90%+ of newly-created chemicals are fine and often provide great benefit. But by volume alone, a few are going to show ugly side effects. Something since 1980 is creating not only the wildly increased obesity, but also the paradoxical effect of wildly increased anorexia (there is very often a paradoxical effect to new things that affects only a few). We like to conjure boogeymen from the environment as explanations to feel better about ourselves - "It's because of models/Barbie/lazy parents, and kids-today-can't-even-shoe-a-damn-horse," but these are ridiculously easy to refute with data. We just like them in order to feel we are the wise ones with immunity.
So bring on the chemical solutions.
Assistant Village Idiot
Maybe it plays a part, but a far bigger factor (in fact the main factor) is the high carbohydrate "standard diet" (and its offshoots in various vegan and vegetarian fads) being pushed by "health experts" worldwide.
Cut the carbs (and processed foods in general) and you will see your general health improve markedly, as well as weight loss.
I've been on a ketovore diet for the last 6 months and lost 60lbs, my diabetes is gone, my blood pressure is back to normal, my cholesterol levels are back to normal, my overall liver and kidney function are back to normal, my arthritis and gout are gone, my chronic bowel and stomach inflammation are gone, my chronic brainfog is gone, all for the first time in over a decade.
Is that diet right for everyone? No, no diet is. But it seems to work for a lot of people.
Did I expect all that when I started it? Again, no. I had been trying which things in my food caused my stomach problems and eliminating those for a while already and that's what I ended up with, given extra impetus by my diabetes spinning out of control last autumn while on a "standard" diet.
But doing the research I found that it makes sense, as all those things are related to your insulin cycle and the way sugars (and carbohydrates in general) are processed in your body.
That does not logically follow about the teflon. That's not how effects work. Teflon is one of the suspects. Reheated oils in food processing is another big one.
There is a genetic part of weight gain and loss, though.
As for carbs and keto, lots of people believe what you guys said, but the theory seems to only work on some people. I always chuckle at the accusations of pharma getting rich by the people selling books and products about weight loss.
@ JTW - that's not research, that's finding someone you think is plausible without subjecting the results to examination. An increasing number of people have started misusing the word that way in the last decade.
My recommendation is that people follow the research and disbelieve anyone who makes broad assertions about what works. They will only be able to back that up with partial evidence. Lots of things work for some people for 10% of body weight, maybe 20%.
Assistant Village Idiot
Food is medicine.
Keto plus one meal a day leads to weight loss AND amazing mental and physical energy, restful sleep, lack of hunger/food cravings, protection against other diseases, and so much more.
AND your doctor can’t get a big pharma kickback by using you as a guinea pig.