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Tuesday, May 3. 2022Tuesday morning linksIf countries actually try to meet their foolish carbon reduction pledges, the result will be a human disaster rarely paralleled in history. Jonah Goldberg on Disney; Wilfred Reilly on systemic racism; Emily Oster on schooling during COVID; Adam Ozimek on remote work Rich white women Report: Roberts doesn't want to completely overturn Roe Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas Says DHS Prepared to Facilitate Import of 500,000 Illegal Aliens Per Month FOR DEMS, THE HITS KEEP COMING WSJ: Elon Musk tweeted my cartoon Finnish Prosecutor Will Keep Prosecuting Christian Politician For Quoting The Bible Experts: US Training of Ukrainian Forces on German Soil Can Represent Entry into War with Nuclear-Armed Russia Yes. Forget NATO, the US is at war with Russia. Crazy. Trackbacks
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If nations actually go ahead with their carbon reduction plan, it will result in about 90% of humanity starving to death, shivering naked in the dark. Which is the plan. A stunning success, not an unimaginable disaster as far as the Eloi are concerned.
For a long time I just couldn't believe what Ayn Rand said about the left wanting people to die. I believe it now.
QUOTE: There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. — Kung Fu Monkey One must assume that a bookish 14-year old will read a few other books besides The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. It's the ones who absorb all their culture from movies, TVs, and know-nothing peers that I worry about.
And I don't put too much credence in book reviews by self-proclaimed monkeys. Mike Anderson: And I don't put too much credence in book reviews by self-proclaimed monkeys.
Kung Fu Monkey is also called Hóu Quán 猴拳.
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Zachriel
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2022-05-03 13:15
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It's comical that you think this is relevant.
Your lack of mental acuity, your inability to reason soundly (or even validly), your perpetual dishonesty, and your keen desire to be antagonistic and anti-social matches that of a 12 year old. No wonder you are in admiration of 14 year olds. I notice that yet again you merely insult him but offer no substantive reply. Who is the pre-teen in this conversation?
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Assistant Village Idiot
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2022-05-03 17:55
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And your critcism of his reply is substantive?
How so?
#1.1.1.2.1.1
Zachinoff
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2022-05-03 23:37
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At the bottom of his climate hysteria article, Hinderaker says: "My guess is that no democracy will actually go through with the idiotic “green” promises that governments have made. I hope not, anyway...."
At the top of his article, Hinderaker says: "The large-scale reduction in farm animals comes after the passing of the (Northern Ireland) jurisdiction’s first ever climate act...." He's so busy trying to stir everybody up that he apparently didn't even both to read & process what he was quoting. That's some first-rate journalism-ing there. They already are going through with it. You have to make coherent arguments to change minds. Greenwald, Taibbi, Weiss, and the rest of the reformist Progressives seem to be part of a small crowd actually conveying discovery as part of their work. Conservatives, not so much. Technically, the quoted articles suggest that, while the bill was passed, the actual reductions are just projected. And, as we all know, governments (particularly the European ones) can (and frequently do) change/ignore problematic statutes.
Aggie: They already are going through with it.
That is incorrect. The reduction in grazing animals is just part of an accounting projection to reach carbon net-zero by 2050. Atmospheric CO2 has a very long atmospheric residency, a half-life of about 120 years. Methane has a low residency in the atmosphere, a half-life of about 8.6 years. That means if there is no increase in methane emissions, then atmospheric methane will reach equilibrium, or methane net-zero. However, methane emissions have increased over the last few decades, and methane has an 80x greenhouse effect compared to CO2. The accounting assumes that carbon emissions will not reach net-zero by 2050, and that these increases can be compensated by reductions in methane emissions, but that is not a necessary outcome. Rather, new technology can reduce some methane emissions, while continued innovation can reduce CO2 emissions. They have passed the Climate Act.
" The Northern Ireland Assembly has passed climate change legislation committing the region to net-zero carbon emissions by 2050. A Bill tabled by Agriculture and Environment Minister Edwin Poots passed its final stage in the Assembly chamber and will now go forward for Royal Assent." The Government has passed the Climate Change legislation, and as we all know, Government has a monopoly on what? Violence, to enforce its legislation. Do ya think Prince Charles will act to ensure Royal Assent? Go ahead, convince me that any Government goes to the trouble to pass new laws in order to ignore them, rather than expand their power. Aggie: The Northern Ireland Assembly has passed climate change legislation committing the region to net-zero carbon emissions by 2050.
Yes, but there are several ways that goal can be reached. Aggie: The Government has passed the Climate Change legislation, and as we all know, Government has a monopoly on what? Violence, to enforce its legislation. Sure. The government can make you stop your car when the light is red. So? 2 mis-directions, 0 ideas. I remain unconvinced if your construct is that a government passes legislation that it does not intend to ever enforce, or that multiple pathways to compliance is another way of saying it is not enforcing its regulations. Neither of those make sense.
My point was that Hinderaker asserts that the government will never go through with it. My counter is that the government is already going through with it, by passing legislation into enforceable law. You seem to be fixated on sheep, and the potential for multiple ways of achieving arbitrary targets. I couldn't care less. The government is passing a law with no clear idea, or even theory, of how to achieve its goal - except to get rid of livestock. What pathway do you think they are on, now that it's a law?
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Aggie
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2022-05-03 16:04
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Aggie: I remain unconvinced if your construct is that a government passes legislation that it does not intend to ever enforce, or that multiple pathways to compliance is another way of saying it is not enforcing its regulations.
Having multiple pathways doesn't mean that the regulations are not being enforced. Aggie: The government is passing a law with no clear idea, or even theory, of how to achieve its goal - except to get rid of livestock. The claim is a vast culling of the Irish herd is being mandated, but that is not correct. If methane is stabilized, then net-zero can be reached by net-zero emissions of CO2. If CO2 rises somewhat, then net-zero can still be reached with an associated drop in methane emissions. But that doesn't necessarily mean culling the entire herd. Some efficiencies resulting in about 20% reduction in methane emissions can be had with current technology.
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Zachriel
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2022-05-03 16:15
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Wrong. 30 to 35 years.
What is the optimal temperature of the earth? What is the optimal CO2 concentration? Well what do you expect from the (((Quibble-DickZ))) ???
Honesty??? B. Hammer: Wrong. 30 to 35 years.
You do realize that Halperin is not an atmospheric scientist, and Science Defies Politics is not a scientific journal? The decay of atmospheric CO2 is not actually a simple equation, as asserted by Halperin. Different sinks act differently, and act differently at various timescales. https://www.ipcc.ch/site/assets/uploads/2018/02/FigBox6.1-1-2-1024x499.jpg Regardless, Halperin's numbers are far out of agreement with those of atmospheric scientists. You mean the scientists like Mann and the East Anglia club?
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-05-03 13:54
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No scientist would refer to "CO2 decay" either.
But then again, what exactly are your credentials in science? indyjonesouthere: You mean the scientists like Mann and the East Anglia club?
Wasn't aware that Mann had ever published on the residency of excess atmospheric CO2.
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Zachriel
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2022-05-03 15:31
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Then you need to read this 2005 piece in Scientific American. He even appears to have "hero" status. He hasn't done well with his Canadian lawsuit against skeptics because he won't release his "data".
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/behind-the-hockey-stick/
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-05-03 16:09
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indyjonesouthere: Then you need to read this 2005 piece in Scientific American. He even appears to have "hero" status.
Where does the article state that Mann has published on the residency of excess atmospheric CO2?
#2.2.2.2.3.1.1
Zachriel
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2022-05-03 16:19
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Like all climate "scientists" Manns entire climate career is focused on excess CO2 and along with others at East Anglia, such as Jones, they all peer reviewed each other's work as proofs for its factuality. The residency time of CO2 is unknown as too much of the data from ice cores has been manipulated like most of climate research has been fudged. Climate data is produced for government use to mandate more power and control for government. They pay well for the proper results and not for the proper science. What I find most positive about the current condition of AGW is that in a current poll people placed it last of problems to be addressed. The "science" behind AGW is a cult religion.
#2.2.2.2.3.1.1.1
indyjonesouthere
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2022-05-03 16:40
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indyjonesouthere: Like all climate "scientists" Manns entire climate career is focused on excess CO2 and along with others at East Anglia, such as Jones, they all peer reviewed each other's work as proofs for its factuality.
You interjected into a discussion of the residency time of excess atmospheric CO2. You suggested Mann published on the subject. indyjonesouthere: The residency time of CO2 is unknown as too much of the data from ice cores has been manipulated like most of climate research has been fudged. Ice cores? The residency time is typically determined by observation of atmospheric, oceanic, and terrestrial fluxes. For instance, increased uptake by plants can be observed by satellites.
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Zachriel
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2022-05-03 16:51
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See Zhu et al., Greening of the Earth and its drivers, Nature Climate Change 2016.
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/thumbnails/image/change_in_leaf_area.jpg
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Zachriel
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2022-05-03 16:59
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The residency of CO2 matters little in the AGW wars. What really does matter is the honesty of the AGW players and they are known to care little about the science and more about the government grants. Perhaps you wish to defend Mann and East Anglia? They are, after all, some of the best known "scientists" of the AGW world.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-05-03 17:14
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Regarding corporations and first amendment rights: So Disney is being 'punished' for their free speech? So corporations shouldn't be punished, but individuals should be? How many examples of individuals being punished for their free speech rights do we have in just the last two years? Let's talk about Jack Phillips and bake the damn cake.
B. Hammer: So Disney is being 'punished' for their free speech?
Yes. De Santis and others in the Florida Republican Party were quite clear that the bill was meant to punish Disney for their speech. B. Hammer: Let's talk about Jack Phillips and bake the damn cake. Jack Phillips wasn't the party to the lawsuit, but Masterpiece Cakeshop. And he wasn't punished for his private speech, but the policy of Masterpiece Cakeshop as a public accommodation. Yes, he was punished for his first amendment beliefs. He was singled out for his beliefs, from a hostile gay couple.
“While it is unexceptional that Colorado law can protect gay persons in acquiring products and services on the same terms and conditions as are offered to other member of the public, the law must be applied in a manner that is neutral toward religion.“ Justice Kennedy for the majority opinion. B. Hammer: he was punished for his first amendment beliefs.
He can be as bigoted as he wants in his private life. As a public accommodation, the business has to abide by anti-discrimination laws. Do you think he should be able to refuse to serve Blacks? B. Hammer: He was singled out for his beliefs, from a hostile gay couple. The proprietor granted that he refused to make a cake for a gay wedding. The case had nothing to do with any purported hostility by the gay couple. B. Hammer (quoting): “While it is unexceptional that Colorado law can protect gay persons in acquiring products and services on the same terms and conditions as are offered to other member of the public, the law must be applied in a manner that is neutral toward religion.“ Sure. It was found that some on the commission expressed a hostility to his religious beliefs, and consequently, the state did not neutrally weigh his claim; not that the state doesn't have the power to enforce anti-discrimination law. Yes. De Santis and others in the Florida Republican Party were quite clear that the bill was meant to punish Disney for their speech.
Not it wasn't. You're so good at quoting everyone, find a quote that states this. Otherwise, it's just another one of your lies. I am not convinced even the death of Putin would change things much in the long run. A good deal of Russia is still convinced of it having a special destiny that involves controlling, not just influencing, other countries.
I rather think that description better fits the US and the State dept and the CIA whether they are attacking countries such as Serbia or Libya. We seem to have demanded to be the world policeman. Panama, actually most of central America, and some of the Caribbean nations are on that list as well.
'Report: Roberts doesn't want to completely overturn Roe'
I'm generally pro-life, but I believe abortion should be allowed in instances of rape. I agree, but it's clear that such a loophole will be grossly abused. There are countless cases of "regret sex" being reported as "rape" months and years after it happened. The human mind is quite adept at rationalizing.
The far left has had no problem becoming more prudish and puritanical than most puritans or Christian sects, so continue on. Let Roe v Wade be fully overturned, so people, regardless of political affinity, return to a modest lifestyle that puts in overt measures and cultural norms to avoid opportunity for rape. Then the rare rape can be addressed compassionately and justly. Erasmus: Is whether Roe is overturned or not up to Roberts?
Apparently not. Thomas, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett, and Alito make five, a majority of the court. Subsequent leaks, as quoted by Hot Air, indicate that while CJ Roberts believes the Mississippi law Constitutional he would prefer an opinion that does not overturn Roe and/or Casey. As Chief Justice he has the authority to assign the writing of the majority opinion if he votes with the majority, including to himself. This authority falls to the most senior justice in the majority (Thomas, apparently, who selected Alito) if the Chief votes with the minority. Since the language of the opinion will control if Roe and/or Casey are overruled in whole or in part, the operation of these procedures would give CJ Roberts effective control over whether they are in fact overruled.
Christopher B: Since the language of the opinion will control if Roe and/or Casey are overruled in whole or in part, the operation of these procedures would give CJ Roberts effective control over whether they are in fact overruled.
That doesn't follow. If Roberts is in the minority, he doesn't even get to select the author of the opinion.
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Zachriel
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2022-05-03 15:34
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Over 500,000 illegal immigrants per month, that's what our infrastructure is purportedly geared up to turn loose on America with little-to-no background checking or immigration law, oops, excuse me: 'process'. How many Russian invaders are presently in Ukraine? A week's worth of illegals? And it's been going on here for how many years?
The story also contains a discussion of the newly-minted Disinformation Governance Board. Does anybody else get the sense that there is machinery in place for a back-door arrangement to have troublesome critics silenced by their media hosts on instructions from the Administration? There have already been hints of this from the Biden Press Secretary, that there are regular conversations between the White House and the media players. Will it eventually be revealed that the driver for account suspension and coordinated news coverage has always been from the Administration side, not from the networks/social media outlets? And that the Disinformation Board was just the final step in formalizing an already-existing arrangement, in order to give it even more authority? |