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Shackleton's abandoned ship Endurance is found

The Anti-Wedding Weddings Section of the NYT

“We acknowledge that our community has been harmed by this incident and the fact that 13 years elapsed before action was taken,” they wrote. “We are convening a series of affinity group meetings in the next few weeks to provide spaces for mutual support, reflection, and response.”

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Democrats are pressuring companies to censor for them. This is the very definition of fascism!

Also, does it bother anyone that Twitter took away Trumps twitter account for telling the inconvenient truth but Putin still has his Twitter account?

#1 JustMe on 2022-03-09 10:38 (Reply)

JustMe: . . . pressuring companies to censor for them. This is the very definition of fascism!

No, it's not. That would equate authoritarianism with fascism. Rather, fascism is a type (subset) of right-wing authoritarianism, one which is characterized by extreme ethnic nationalism and a belief that conflict between races (ethnicities) is not only inevitable, but gives meaning to national existence.

#1.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 12:16 (Reply)

No, it''s not. Your definition is wrong on multiple levels, so much so that it can be considered a lie.

#1.1.1 jack walter on 2022-03-09 12:23 (Reply)

jack walter: No, it''s not.

You could start with the dictionary:

QUOTE:

fascism: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Or the encyclopedia:

QUOTE:

fascism , Philosophy of government that stresses the primacy and glory of the state, unquestioning obedience to its leader, subordination of the individual will to the state’s authority, and harsh suppression of dissent. Martial virtues are celebrated, while liberal and democratic values are disparaged.

You could refer to scholars of fascism: See Turner, Reappraisals of Fascism, 1975; Larsen, Hagtvet & Myklebust (editors), Who Were the Fascists?: Social Roots of European Fascism, 1984; Nolte, Three Faces of Fascism: Action Francaise, Italian Fascism, National Socialism, 1966; or Stanley, How Fascism Works: The Politics of Us and Them, 2020: "{Fascism is} based on an ethnic division between 'us' and 'them', an extreme ethno-nationalism. It's based on nostalgia for a mythic past, typically in which members of the chosen ethnic group had an empire – and it represents the present as loss of that great empire, that natural standpoint in which members of this ethnic group dominated their environment militarily, politically, and culturally."

Or you refer to Benito Mussolini:

QUOTE:

Granted that the 19th century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the 20th century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are
free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the “right,” a Fascist century.

#1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 12:40 (Reply)

Nothing you copied and pasted contradicts jack's assertion. Your first definition actually demonstrates that he's correct.

You're so contentious, and yet always wrong.

#1.1.1.1.1 DrTorch (Link) on 2022-03-09 13:14 (Reply)

DrTorch: Nothing you copied and pasted contradicts jack's assertion.

Z: fascism is a subset of authoritarianism. That means not all authoritarianism is fascism.

jack walter: No, it''s not.

You or jack might try to make complete arguments rather than waving and saying, "Is not!"

#1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 13:18 (Reply)

Do not quibble with the Quibble-DickZ for they are the masters of the quibble.

Boring and dishonest, too.

#1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-03-09 15:51 (Reply)

Yes, ignore the totalitarian's boot grinding into your face because Zachriel's here to save the day with clarifying semantics.

#1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 16:30 (Reply)

“fascism is a type (subset) of right-wing authoritarianism”

No it’s not! That is the Neo-communist redefinition of what fascism is. Fascism is just a variation of socialism and communism. For some communist dictators fascism was the fastest route from socialism to the more authoritarian communism. But the communist always as a defense accuse the other side of what they are doing thus the redefinition of fascism. It isn’t “right wing”, it cannot be “right wing” because “right wing” is anti-socialist/fascist/communist. BUT “fascist” has such a negative ring to it that the socialists/fascists/communists had to shed it and thought it would be a win/win to claim fascism is “right wing” which on it’s face is a stupid statement.
Left wing = socialism/fascism/communism
Right wing = freedom, the right to own property, liberty and so much more all things that are the antithesis of fascism.

Right now we are seeing the Democrat party moving from socialism to fascism in their journey to full fledged communism. But they must do it secretly, because no one in their right mind wants to live under communism. So as part of that clandestine effort they call the right wing fascist. DUH!

“a belief that conflict between races (ethnicities) is not only inevitable, but gives meaning to national existence.”
THAT would be Democrats. Their constant drum beat of racism and race is how they intend to divide and conquer. We all see it of course, but that doesn’t stop the lying liars from lying, that’s what socialist/fascists do to convert a country to communism. Interestingly racism is so rare in America that about 90% or more of all the claimed racism was faked by people of color to keep the shtick going. Just aren’t enough racist to go around I guess. With the election coming up the Democrats will increase their own racism and fake news of racism because… that’s what fascists do. DUH!

#1.1.2 JustMe on 2022-03-09 14:28 (Reply)

JustMe: Fascism is just a variation of socialism and communism.

Fascism was opposed to socialists and communists. That was true then, and it's true now.

JustMe: Left wing = socialism/fascism/communism

While socialism and communism are typically on the political left, they are not equal to, but are subsets of the political left, which is defined as those who advocate for a more egalitarian society.

JustMe: Right wing = freedom, the right to own property, liberty and so much more all things that are the antithesis of fascism.

That is incorrect. The political right is defined by hierarchy. Originally, it meant support of the monarchy as opposed to republicanism. And while there are certainly components of the political right that support liberty, there are also those on the political right who would use government to control people, such as social conservatives.

#1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 14:43 (Reply)

AG Garland siccing the FBI on the parents of school children upset and complaining about the indoctrination their kids are receiving.
Garland called them "domestic terrorists".
Nothing "fascist" about that.

The Biden regime is a fascist regime and it's time we said so clearly.

Go away Quibble-DickZ.

#1.1.2.1.1 Zachinoff on 2022-03-09 16:32 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Fascism was opposed to socialists and communists

Peer totalitarian competitors.

#1.1.2.1.2 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 16:42 (Reply)

Bill Carson: Peer totalitarian competitors.

That is not correct. Fascists weren't just tactically opposed to socialists and liberals, but explicitly rejected their egalitarian and internationalist goals.

QUOTE:

Benito Mussolini: Granted that the 19th century was the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy, this does not mean that the 20th century must also be the century of socialism, liberalism, democracy. Political doctrines pass; nations remain. We are free to believe that this is the century of authority, a century tending to the “right,” a Fascist century.

#1.1.2.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 17:09 (Reply)

No, it's absolutely correct. The fascists and socialists/communists were totalitarians fighting one another for totalitarian dominance:

Spanish Civil War
Operation Barbarossa (Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact - between peer competitirs - only delayed the fight)

And they fought on the battlefield, not the pages of a dictionary.

#1.1.2.1.2.1.1 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 17:37 (Reply)

QUOTE:

their egalitarian and internationalist goals

Like starving the kulaks?

#1.1.2.1.2.1.2 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 17:40 (Reply)

QUOTE:

their egalitarian and internationalist goals

Egalitarianism of this sort?

#1.1.2.1.2.1.3 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 17:46 (Reply)

Bill Carson: Like starving the kulaks?

By that logic: The Nazis used bombs and killed civilians. The Americans used bombs and killed civilians So, Americans were the same as Nazis.

Just because an ideology uses certain means doesn’t mean all such ideologies are the same. Terms, such as left, right, fascism, and communism, have specific meanings. A radical anarchist may kill civilians, but that doesn’t make her a fascist.

#1.1.2.1.2.1.4 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 21:09 (Reply)

Neo-Nazi's carrying torches and chanting "Jews will not replace us!" at the Unite the Right rally are not socialists.

#1.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 14:52 (Reply)

Commies and fascists are separated at birth. Left and right are illusions. Same goal in mind: Total gov't control. Secret police. Throw your enemies in jail or just exterminate them. See Germany and China.

Both despise freedom. The difference is just branding.

#1.1.2.2.1 Poboy on 2022-03-09 16:57 (Reply)

PoBoy: Commies and fascists are separated at birth.

The Neo-Nazis carrying torches aren't communists or socialists by any stretch of the imagination.

PoBoy: Left and right are illusions. Same goal in mind: Total gov't control.

You are conflating the left-right spectrum (egalitarian-hierarchical) with the anarchist-statist spectrum. There are anarchists on the left and there are anarchists on the right. There are statists on the left and there are statists on the right.

You also confuse ends and means. Specifically, Marxism posits a dictatorship of the proletariat to displace the existing class system, which then withers away leaving a classless and stateless society of equality and the end of war. Fascism posits that only a hierarchical state can be strong and endure in the struggle between ethno-nations. Conflict, in the fascist view, is not only inevitable, but desired so that the strong can realize their destiny.

#1.1.2.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 17:21 (Reply)

QUOTE:

You also confuse ends and means

You ignore the identical outcomes of fascism and communism: misery, oppression, death, and destruction.

#1.1.2.2.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 17:53 (Reply)

Re: tiki torches: And neither is Antifa smashing windows for a more free and open society.

Stop with the Pol Sci definitions. That's not reality. Chavez, Hitler, Stalin and Xi controlling their people and crushing dissent is reality.

Different goals advertised and promised, same results.

Control Zac, that's what both systems are about.

#1.1.2.2.1.1.2 Poboy on 2022-03-09 18:21 (Reply)

Bill Carson: You ignore the identical outcomes of fascism and communism: misery, oppression, death, and destruction.

That was the outcome for victims of the Mongol conquests, but that doesn’t make the Mongols fascists.

Poboy: Re: tiki torches: And neither is Antifa smashing windows for a more free and open society.

That’s right. Antifa is a loose grouping joined by opposition to fascism, but most are anarchists.

Poboy: Stop with the Pol Sci definitions.

Equating fascism with authoritarianism, and authoritarianism with the political left, leads to the nonsensical claim that Louis XVI was a left-wing fascist.

Conflating and confusing meanings of words, such as using fascism to mean authoritarianism, degrades both reasoning and communication.

#1.1.2.2.1.1.3 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 21:24 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Both despise freedom. The difference is just branding.

This.

And Zachriel is dissembling on behalf of his brand: communism.

#1.1.2.2.1.2 Bill Carson on 2022-03-09 17:57 (Reply)

You do know that those were "FBI informants", right?

#1.1.2.2.2 JustMe on 2022-03-09 21:00 (Reply)

JustMe: You do know that those were "FBI informants", right?

Making stuff up is not an argument. The participants are on video. The organizers were found liable.

#1.1.2.2.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 21:28 (Reply)

Oh good! A video. Do you have a link?

#1.1.2.2.2.1.1 JustMe on 2022-03-09 22:43 (Reply)

What! No link? I wanted to see if I could identify any of those tiki torch carrying FBI informants. Were they dressed like Proud Boys? LOL

"Lincoln Project Claims Credit For Tiki Torch Stunt By Glenn Youngkin's Bus"

#1.1.2.2.2.1.2 JustMe on 2022-03-10 16:02 (Reply)

JustMe: What! No link?

One such link was provided above, and it even included "The Crying Nazi". However, there are hundreds of such videos and thousands of photographs of the Unite the Right rally publicly available.

#1.1.2.2.2.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2022-03-10 16:27 (Reply)

WOW!!! Did they have to hire extra FBI agents to do this or do they use actors. Maybe people on the left volunteer to dress up like conservatives and carry tiki torches. I haven't seen a tiki torch since I've been to a Hawaiin luau. Are they racists too or are they the FBI "informants" wink, wink.

Seriously though, are you really that naive or are you in on this scam and think you are fooling us?

#1.1.2.2.2.1.2.1.1 JustMe on 2022-03-10 20:03 (Reply)

Well it seems that the curtain is closing on the covid kabuki theater. But wait! This is a double feature. Stay in your seats for an action movie based on Mad Max. This one will be in 3D with surround bombs and artillery for your kinetic pleasure. There is no popcorn because there is no fuel for the popcorn popper and if there was popcorn you wouldn't be able to afford it. Exits are blocked or lead directly to hell. We don't know how long this feature will last but you can't leave and you will only be allowed the food and water you brought with you, unless your neighbor takes it from you. Good luck, this isn't a reality show it is reality.

#2 OneGuy on 2022-03-09 10:46 (Reply)

I wonder why someone who dressed as Michael Jackson for Halloween would bother to put on "blackface".

#3 RebeccaH on 2022-03-09 10:55 (Reply)

I wonder why someone who did it 13 years ago, for a Michael Jackson-themed Thriller party, would even bother to apologize. What are they going to do, cancel you harder>?

#3.1 Aggie on 2022-03-09 11:10 (Reply)

I simply do not understand why dressing like Michael Jackson would bother anyone. Yes he was a child molester and maybe that would upset some people but what is so bad about dressing like a known celebrity?

#3.1.1 OneGuy on 2022-03-09 14:33 (Reply)

Here's the US, poking the world's 4th most-corrupt country with a stick, telling them to bravely fight for their 'Independence' against a nuclear superpower (former), while poking a NATO ally (that borders Russia) to join in the fight.

Instead, Poland turns to the side and sweeps their arm toward their parked antique jets: 'Not us...but you go right ahead'. That was a brilliant diplomatic slap if you ask me.

#4 Aggie on 2022-03-09 11:14 (Reply)

I agree that Ukraine is corrupt. They live in a world where corruption is necessary to survive. If you lived there you too would be corrupt. I don't agree that they are the 4th most corrupt nation. 100% of African countries are corrupt. 95% of South and Central American countries are corrupt. 95% of Asian countries are corrupt. The U.S. is corrupt (amazing how cheaply you can buy a congressman) and Canada just removed all doubt about them being corrupt.

The Ukraine could not survive without corruption but the U.S. and Canada would thrive without corruption. For us it isn't necessary it is a chpoice made by corrupt politicians.

Let me offer a historical example. Prior to 2000 Iraq built bio and chemical weapon facilities. They didn't have the expertise to do it themselves so they farmed it out. Holland, France and Germany willingly built them for Iraq AND gave kickbacks to Iraqi government officials to get the contracts. THAT is corrupt at a much higher level than Ukraine. Imagine that you are a Dutch, French or German politician and you are OK with building chemical and bio-weapon plants in Iraq AND OK with paying off minor and major government officials to get those contracts. But wait! It gets worse. You remember that Europe, specifically Holland, France and Germany tried to delay the attack on Iraq in 2001 through the UN. Why? Because it would expose what they had done; expose their corruption. I would say that makes them far more corrupt than Ukraine.

#4.1 OneGuy on 2022-03-09 11:28 (Reply)

It was brilliant. Poland took over the "John Bolton" chair of poking the bear, then crapped on the seat and left it all as a signal that perhaps they need to rethink diplomacy. It had to really aggravate the Germans.
I think Trump was right. Does NATO have any real purpose anymore other than providing government jobs.

#4.2 indyjonesouthere on 2022-03-09 12:02 (Reply)

Transparency International: Corruption Index

#4.3 Zachriel on 2022-03-09 12:24 (Reply)

Anti-wedding article quote, "pity the wives; they were frequently unfairly blamed for their husbands’ bad behavior"

What a bunch of crap. Another feminist author bitter that some people work to be happy.

#5 DrTorch (Link) on 2022-03-09 12:01 (Reply)

McConnell and 14 billion in aid...mere money laundering on the government scale.

#6 indyjonesouthere on 2022-03-09 12:25 (Reply)

The BBC has been posting articles that diminish marriage for quite awhile now. They are very clever they approach the subject from different subjects, i.e. the time they posted a travel article to some place high in the Himalyans (?) where women run the little bunch of huts on sticks(community) and choose which man they want to live with for awhile. When they want another they just boot out this one and move on to another!
The BBC has also run columns on the psychological damage of traditional marriages.
To say the least destroying marriage is the new hot target for the Femnazis of America. Gotta take that one down!! We can see this trend by observing their typical tool of choice--tv/movies using "polyamory" as the new core idea to the plot. Yep--"polyamory" is the new biggest, hottest deal that the fems have "designed" for us!

#7 faculty wife on 2022-03-09 13:13 (Reply)

Can anyone or business be corrupt without cooperation of government?

#8 Becky on 2022-03-09 13:39 (Reply)

everyone should visit the third link:
“We acknowledge that our community..."
The website's author, Bob Zimmerman (no, the other one)
was an aquaintance of mine many decades ago.
Here's an interesting biographical story:
https://behindtheblack.com/uncategorized/flood-in-mcfails-cave-new-york/

#9 nunnya bidnez jr on 2022-03-09 14:07 (Reply)

"where women run the little bunch of huts on sticks(community) and choose which man they want to live with for awhile. When they want another they just boot out this one and move on to another!"

Sadly this also describes life on most Indian reservations in the U.S. and Canada.

#10 JustMe on 2022-03-09 14:36 (Reply)

Made me smile!

#10.1 faculty wife on 2022-03-10 15:49 (Reply)

re Shackleton's abandoned ship Endurance is found

The level of pservation is simply astonishing.

#11 feeblemind on 2022-03-10 13:53 (Reply)

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