Maggie's Farm

Here ya go:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isLNLpxpndA
 

Oops. Correct link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNxvSxaGeDE
 

Joe B: He said Putin not HITLER like you wrote!

Someone's not very good with analogy-thingies.

Hint: In the analogy, the "former president" would be Herbert Hoover. And Hitler would be well, Hitler; the "genius" attacking a weaker neighbor claiming to be protecting ethnic Germans.

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https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/what-we-can-learn-from-the-smallpox


Yes, poor health after the city was destroyed, large numbers of unvaccinated immigrants to the city, and unvaccinated children, resulted in a smallpox outbreak. When vaccination programs couldn't keep up with the burgeoning population, smallpox outbreaks kept recurring.


Due to widespread vaccination, the last natural outbreak of smallpox in the U.S. was in 1949. In 1980, the World Health Assembly declared smallpox eradicated.

indyjonesouthere: Indeed! Poor health of Obese, diabetes, etc, then large numbers of Illegals pouring over the border

As history shows, contagions do not respect political borders and have to be addressed internationally. For COVID, universal vaccination is an essential measure.

indyjonesouthere: Yet health care officialdom make the same mistakes over and over.

Sure. That can happen. In this case, however, vaccination was an essential tool in fighting smallpox.

indyjonesouthere: Vaccination was a tool for eradicating smallpox but the Vaxx was a tool for build back better.

The claim was that the current situation with COVID was like the situation with smallpox. Smallpox vaccination was crucial for controlling smallpox, but was subject to the same anti-vaccination sentiment we see today.

indyjonesouthere: The claim was that government health officials have always tried using force and it doesn't work.

Vaccine mandates have a long history in the U.S. and in most other countries. For instance, all U.S. states require public school students to have vaccinations for polio, diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough, measles, and rubella.

indyjonesouthere: The EUA recognized the covid vaxx as an experiment

The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are fully-approved in the U.S., Canada, and Europe.

indyjonesouthere: They are NOT approved for the US.

FDA Approves First COVID-19 Vaccine

FDA Takes Key Action by Approving Second COVID-19 Vaccine

indyjonesouthere: Comirnaty was approved on Aug 23, 2021 but it will never be available in the US.

Per the FDA, "The {approved} vaccine has been known as the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine". It's the same thing. And the liability is the same: See 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 - Standards of responsibility.

indyjonesouthere: It must have COMIRNATY on the label or it is not the approved version and it is still the old EUA version of the vaxx.

We cited the FDA and we cited the law concerning liability. Here's some additional information.

anon: Smallpox vaccines immunize people, covid vaccines less so at best.

The smallpox vaccine is about 95% effective, decreasing over time.

anon: An essential measure for what end?

A reduction in infections, hospitalizations, and deaths. Now that there is widespread immunity, COVID will likely become endemic, one of many respiratory illnesses.

Meanwhile, coronaviruses and other viruses will continue to mutate in humans and other hosts, so pandemics will occur every few years. Fortunately, mRNA technology means that vaccines can be produced in a few weeks or months after the discovery of a novel virus. Those countries that can respond effectively will prosper compared to those countries which are less adept.

Anon: There are people in jail who did not trespass in the capitol, did not fight with the police but were merely there, outside where they could legally be.

Who? Please be specific.

Anon: Guy Reffitt has been in jail since he was arrested by the FBI nearly 14 months ago.

Guy Reffitt is charged with obstruction of an official proceeding, entering restricted grounds, and obstruction of justice. He told his family that he carried a firearm to the riot, then made threats to prevent them from going to law enforcement.

Anon: Joe Biden’s Justice Department asked a federal judge to keep him detained awaiting trial for his participation in the Capitol protest on January 6, 2021.

That's all they can do, ask, and provide evidence to support pretrial detention under the Bail Reform Act, 18 U.S. Code Chapter 20, which has release as the default position, but Reffitt had threatened witnesses, and made other remarks on encrypted communications about obtaining firearms to engage in insurrection; so, the court found he represented a continuing danger to the community and to the judicial process.

You had said the government was holding those "who did not trespass in the capitol," but Reffitt did trespass, attempted to obstruct Congress; and with regards to pretrial detention, made threats against witnesses and made further threats of violence in pursuit of his political aims.

Oops. That should be 18 U.S. Code § 3142 - Release or detention of a defendant pending trial.

Anon: These people deserve "justice" not political tyranny.

They do deserve justice. They have all been provided hearings on pretrial release per the law and in accordance with the constitution, and all will be provided an opportunity of going to trial on their alleged crimes per the law and in accordance with the constitution. Justice is not always served by even the most careful legal system, but when we asked for an example of people who are undeservedly in jail, you failed to provide a single specific.

Anon: They should be charged,

Over 700 have been charged with a variety of crimes.

Anon: the evidence shared with their attorney,

The courts were already provided enough evidence to establish probable cause for the indictment. Any prosecution evidence to be used at trial must be provided to the defense in advance. The court sets a timetable as part of the trial process.

Anon: the trial held not in DC which is biased but in their home state and by a jury of their peers.

Some defendants have requested a change in venue, but none have shown that the interest of justice would be so served. The alleged crimes occurred in Washington, and the majority of witnesses will be found there.

Anon: and by a jury of their peers.

If they go to trial, then they will be judged by a jury of their peers as defined in and according to the constitution.

Anon: Holding them this long is criminal.

The vast majority have been released pretrial. Those that are being held were judged by the court after a review of the evidence to either be a threat to the public or a threat to the judicial process.