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Dean Baquet didn't let something accidentally slip with his 'best version of the truth' gaffe. It's a deeply-held belief, and he's stuck far enough into it to begin losing awareness that there are other points of view. He doesn't care about the differing views of others; he has enough proximal ideological support for it not to matter to him.
He would be the type of guy to promote persecution of the Canadian truckers, jailing them and seizing their trucks and financial assets without due process, while bitterly complaining afterwards that the cream cheese delivery problems have ruined his bagel experience - since there's nothing better than enjoying a nice bagel while marching with the BLM protest. It's like saying at the end of a sporting match "But who played the game better really?" Yes, sometimes the final score is surprising, anomalous, and does not reflect what might be the best prediction for which will be the better team in the future. The score is not a perfect measure of quality.
Yet it does capture something important, time after time, that blathering about "What is victory? Who is to say what the best outcome is?" does not. Just because truth may be soft at the edges and not easily perceived or understood does not mean that it is essentially flexible. I get his point that we should all be careful what truth assumptions we bring. Yet that seems to increasingly be "a truth people use to lie with," as a psychiatrist friend of mine used to say. It is a modifier, not a foundation. re California's Unconstitutional 'Bacon Ban' Proposition 12 may drive up prices nationwide.
That might happen, but it shouldn't if the producers are smart. Massachusetts legislators were quick to amend their bacon law when it became apparent that there would be no pork or eggs on store shelves if the law went into effect. Producers have the hammer in this case. If they stand pat and flip Government the finger, the choice will be, do you want to eat pork or not? Yes or no? California legislators will feel the wrath of the voters if they allow this law to go into effect, and pork disappears from grocery store shelves. If they don't and pork is banned, it will cause a huge market disruption. That would mean a huge drop in demand and result in cheaper prices for everyone else in the short run as California's supply is dumped on the rest of the country. If the industry caves and adapts to California's production standards, it could well mean higher prices for the rest of us, or the market may continue raising the cheaper pork for the rest of while having dedicated production for California at a much higher price. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. re: Gere canceled
In the 80s and early 90s "Free Tibet" was a popular demand in the music industry. Free the Jan 6 political protestors. This has gone on too long. It seems the best hope is to take back the House this year because without Pelosi using Jan 6th for political purposes perhaps then the protestors will get justice instead of political imprisonment.
Anon: Free the Jan 6 political protestors.
The rioters already have access to due process. Pelosi is making sure they do not have access to all the evidence nor is it available to the public. Release ALL the video tapes.
indyjonesouthere: Pelosi is making sure they do not have access to all the evidence nor is it available to the public.
The investigations are still ongoing, and there are also security concerns regarding the Congress. The courts will rule on what evidence the prosecution must provide, including any evidence that may be exculpatory. Evidence not available to the public has already been provided to defendants in camera. I have seen how investigations go with Pelosi and the FBI. They will cover up as much as they can, just as they covered up russia, russia, russia. A republican house and/or senate will likely provide far more transparency. Pelosi only provides theater.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 12:32
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indyjonesouthere: I have seen how investigations go with Pelosi and the FBI.
Pelosi does not conduct criminal investigations. The claim was that the January 6 rioters were being held as political prisoners. However, we can observe the individual cases and see that they have been provided due process, including the right to a hearing for pretrial release. You wave your hands and say "Not so!" but fail to provide evidence to support your position.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 12:41
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Release all the video tapes. Provide all the undercover operatives to the defense attorneys. Release all the FBI and Pelosi communications to the defense. Have Pelosi explain why she did not accept Trumps offer of a military presence for Jan 6.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 12:53
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indyjonesouthere: Release all the video tapes. Provide all the undercover operatives to the defense attorneys. Release all the FBI and Pelosi communications to the defense.
That's nice, but it doesn't mean the rioters aren't being provided due process. indyjonesouthere: Have Pelosi explain why she did not accept Trumps offer of a military presence for Jan 6. There is no evidence Trump made any formal request about deploying National Guard troops before the rally. Pelosi's office was not consulted or contacted regarding such a request, nor does she have the power to reject that type of request.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 13:27
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Love it when the Quibble-DickZ pretend they are lawyers and have access to all the facts, then complain that others are "hand-waving". .
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Zachinoff
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2022-02-23 13:49
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There is no due process if you are denied access to witnesses and evidence. Pelosi has also bastardized the committee investigation Jan 6. By the rules to operate she had to allow McCarty the right to put two republicans on the committee. Pelosi refused and added the two Trump haters to the committee.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 14:21
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indyjonesouthere: There is no due process if you are denied access to witnesses and evidence.
That's what courts are for. The prosecution has to provide the evidence they will use against you, and the defense has the right to view that evidence and to ask for additional evidence. The court then makes decisions, based on law and precedent, and subject to appeal to a higher court, whether the requested evidence is relevant to the trial process. How did you think due process worked? It's as if you don't know the basics. indyjonesouthere: By the rules to operate she had to allow McCarty the right to put two republicans on the committee. The Republicans were invited to appoint five members to the committee. Pelosi rejected two, one of whom could be a material witness. The Republican leader then pulled the other three. Pelosi then found two Republicans willing to serve.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 14:40
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Pelosi doesn't get veto power on those appointments.
The courts should decide but don't. You do remember lawfares Mark Elias, right. He withheld evidence in the Alaska senators trial and also in the Arthur Anderson trial. The convictions were later thrown out on appeal but in the mean time the senator lost his election (the vote loss made Obamacare possible) and in the Arthur Anderson case they went bankrupt. So much for justice in DNC world. And what did it cost Elias? Yea, absolutely nothing. No sanctions, no fines, no loss of license ... nothing. And then he shows up in Russia, Russia, Russia where we find more bogus findings in the Mueller fiasco.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 14:58
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indyjonesouthere: Pelosi doesn't get veto power on those appointments.
She does—as long as she has majority support in the House. Unilateral actions can create problems with working across the aisle, but Jordan was a material witness, so couldn't serve. Banks indicated that he would undermine the investigation. The other three could have served, but were withdrawn. indyjonesouthere: The courts should decide but don't. The U.S. Constitution grants the power to the Congress to set their own rules. The courts have no say in the matter.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 15:32
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They accuse Jordan of being a material witness. They have zero proof. All they have is arrogance and lazy work habits.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 15:49
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indyjonesouthere: They accuse Jordan of being a material witness.
Jordan has admitted he talked to Trump about the time of the attack on the Capitol. That was after pretending that he didn't remember talking to Trump. Then he pretended that he would cooperate with the investigation. He has been invited to testify about what he knows, but has so far refused.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 15:57
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Once again, talking to someone is not a crime. Like I said, the dems are arrogant and lazy. They don't require any proof as accusations are good enough. Just like Russia, Russia, Russia.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:09
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indyjonesouthere: Once again, talking to someone is not a crime.
We didn't say it was. However, he is a material witness concerning the events of January 6.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:22
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Then even Pelosi is a material witness. What did she know and when did she know it?
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:34
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indyjonesouthere: Then even Pelosi is a material witness. What did she know and when did she know it?
One of the questions that the January 6 committee is attempting to answer is why Trump did not call off his supporters for hours, even while knowing they were attacking the Capitol and endangering members of Congress. However, if Pelosi has something relevant to provide to the committee, there is no reason she shouldn't provide it. After all, Clinton testified to Congress for eleven hours straight. (Though it does look as if Trump may plead the Fifth.)
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 17:35
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Congress set the rules, Pelosi will not follow them.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 15:52
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indyjonesouthere: Congress set the rules, Pelosi will not follow them.
Oh, gee whiz. Here's the House resolution: QUOTE: Appointment of Members—The Speaker shall appoint 13 Members to the Select Committee, 5 of whom shall be appointed after consultation with the minority leader. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-resolution/503/text The Speaker consulted the minority leader. She rejected two of the five he recommended. He could have recommended two others, but decided to pull the remaining three from consideration.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:05
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There is a lesson here. You see how Zach went above and beyond the call of duty to try to defend this atrocity. Why? Why not just stick to his first lie/comment??? Because THIS is propaganda and must be repeated until it buries the truth AND Zach is a propagandists working for the communist in our government.
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Anon
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2022-02-23 16:10
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Anon: Because THIS is propaganda and must be repeated until it buries the truth
There are two issues. Are the January 6 rioters being given due process? The evidence is that they are, indeed, being given due process. No one has provided evidence to the contrary. The second issue is whether the emergency powers represents authoritarianism. The courts ordered the truckers to disperse, and a democratically-elected parliament affirmed the government's powers. That's contrary to authoritarianism and how it works in a democratic system.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:21
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Yes, she consulted and then refused to seat McCarty's choices. Consulting does not equate to veto power.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:11
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indyjonesouthere: Consulting does not equate to veto power.
That's exactly what it means. Under the resolution, passed by a majority of the House members, the Speaker appoints the 13 members, not the minority leader. The Speaker appoints the 13 members.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:16
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This will be really fun when the next election results come in. How many committees will be formed using your rules of committee formation? I can see an endless supply of investigative committees without any minority party representation at all. Russia, Russia, Russia, oh my ... all the dems were colluding with Hillary. Covid, covid, covid, oh my ... all the dems were colluding with the CCP and Fauci. See how that works.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:32
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indyjonesouthere: I can see an endless supply of investigative committees without any minority party representation at all.
That would be up to the majority party, but keep in mind that Pelosi didn't keep Republicans off the committee, but rejected two admitted trolls. She accepted three of the five and asked for two more. Instead, the minority leader chose to not have minority representation. Even then, Pelosi found two members of the minority willing to serve.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 17:38
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The democratic party is the troll party. Brace for equal treatment. How did the Harry Reed judicial fiasco work out for the party. The dems are too arrogant to figure out that they will receive the same treatment and SCOTUS is not going to bail out their stupidity. They are almost as slow as Trudeau as they have a bit of a bank run going that resulted from their closure and seizure of individual accounts. Its like Deja vu all over again.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 18:38
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So you admit there is not due process even as you claim there is.
Go away you lying POS. These are fellow Americans we're concerned with. DrTorch: So you admit there is not due process even as you claim there is.
As mentioned, the January 6 rioters are being given due process, including the right to a hearing for pretrial release. The courts adjudicate these issues every day. If you have contrary evidence, you could always provide it.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:33
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Gere got old and his good looks faded (some). He was never Anthony Hopkins or even Marlon Brando, so he, like many other older actors. has been lost/forgotten.
Ray Liotta, Rutger Hauer, just a couple of names that quickly come to mind that are/were largely in the same position. That he supported Tibet liberation may have made it easier, but it wasn't the main cause. QUOTE: Reality Always Wins: For them, “diversity is our strength” is not just a marketing slogan. They really think that diversity in all of its forms is the key to creating a global paradise. That essay could have been written in the 1930s about the conflict between "pure" authoritarian nations and "impure" liberal societies. Our current condition is uniparty authoritarianism. Add that to Canadian, New Zealand, British, and Australian authoritarianism.
If nothing else the last two year cluster fuck has shown us that we should keep the government out of health care. They politicized it and arguably killed people simply for a political advantage in an election. They continue even now in the face of dramatic evidence of their lying and collusion to harm us.
Take note of Canada today when you start hearing about moving to a cashless society. How easy would it be for the government to seize your assets and your bank accounts and leave you penniless and unable to feed your family simply because you hold a political position that the government does not like. Our "free press" today is owned by a few billionaires who clearly are anti-Democratic and anti-American. There is ONE cable channel that has not fallen yet. Watch as they take it down. When that happens you will know it is all over and time to find a hidey hole. More evidence of the ineffectiveness of the vaccine and the literally criminal actions of our government. https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/new-jama-paper-show-ivermectin-blows?utm_source=url But does anyone care?
indyjonesouthere: Our current condition is uniparty authoritarianism.
By any reasonable measure, the U.S. is a democracy, albeit flawed, with strong institutional protections for individual liberties. Democracy Index Human Freedom Index indyjonesouthere: Add that to Canadian, New Zealand, British, and Australian authoritarianism. Sure. Putin is doing "wonderful" things in Ukraine, and Trudeau is Hitler. The US is a republic. Institutional protections for escaping the covid mandates? Surely you jest. They will cover up and protect the covid data but the people, Yea, not so much. That is a little Castro in Canada. The socialist party and communist party of Canada support the authoritarian tyrant. You may want to read a couple of articles at Western Rifle shooters from yesterday. They covered the US authorities 2014 overthrow of an elected Russian president in the Ukraine and todays covered Putin's speech about the Ukraine and Russian history.
indyjonesouthere: The US is a republic.
The U.S. is also democratic. Representatives are voted on by the general public. The U.S. is a federal, democratic republic. indyjonesouthere: Institutional protections for escaping the covid mandates? Mandates are covered by statutes and court decisions. There are all sorts of legal mandates: stop lights, shirts in restaurants, taxes, building codes, pollution controls, discrimination laws, etc. indyjonesouthere: That is a little Castro in Canada. The Prime Minister of Canada is exercising emergency power delegated by a democratically-elected parliament. Authoritarianism ≠ things you don't like. There is also the Nuremburg code that deals with experimental treatment.
The little Castro authoritarian just declared sanctions on Russia because of Russian authoritarianism. A trucker protest without burning down Canada or shooting up the countryside requires an emergency declaration for dictatorial power? indyjonesouthere: There is also the Nuremburg code that deals with experimental treatment.
COVID vaccines are fully-approved under Canadian law. https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/drugs-health-products/covid19-industry/drugs-vaccines-treatments/vaccines.html indyjonesouthere: A trucker protest without burning down Canada or shooting up the countryside requires an emergency declaration for dictatorial power? The government went to court and got an order for the truckers to disperse because of the severe disruption they were causing. Then parliament affirmed the government's emergency powers (which expire in 30 days). That's how due process works. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 14:29
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The Canadian socialist party and the Canadian communist party make up the ruling coalition in Canada. That they preferred the Klaus Schwab build back better authoritarian route surprises no one. It is funny to see them sanction the Russians for their moves in the Ukraine. Now the Trudeau party wants to maintain some of the emergency powers indefinitely. But that's democracy in action.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 15:08
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indyjonesouthere: The Canadian socialist party and the Canadian communist party make up the ruling coalition in Canada.
The Liberal Party is not socialist, nor is the New Democratic Party communist. They do tend to the political left, however. But, you know, it's a democratic society, and they voted the Liberal Party into power. How did you think it worked? It's rather the opposite of authoritarianism. indyjonesouthere: Now the Trudeau party wants to maintain some of the emergency powers indefinitely. As noted, parliament granted the government a 30 day extension on emergency powers.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 15:23
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They are socialist and they are communist. Which of the two parties did you vote for? The desperation of needing emergency powers for putting down a peaceful protest is detestable. He learned it all at the Klaus Schwab school for build back better. He needs permanent lockdowns to comply with the Schwab school of destroying the current political structure and replacing it with BBB. Trudeau's school mates included Fauci and Bill Gates. He does keep rather exclusive company. And he has a rather long, but exclusive list, of other classmates. Check it out. WEF
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:03
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indyjonesouthere: They are socialist and they are communist.
We can only assume you don't know what those terms mean. Neither the Liberal Party nor the New Democratic Party are calling for nationalization of the means of production. indyjonesouthere: The desperation of needing emergency powers for putting down a peaceful protest is detestable. The courts ordered them to disperse. The parliament affirmed the government's emergency powers. Not sure how else you think it should work, but that's how it works in a democratic society under the rule of law.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:09
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Which of the two parties do you belong to? The socialist are content to mandate cradle to grave programs. The communists need more voters in order to nationalize all of production. But both are doing a fine job of seizing assets, jailing disidents, and running down handicapped people. And of course, the courts will approve. Trudeau doesn't realize it yet but he has lost. Desperation does that to authoritarians.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:23
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indyjonesouthere: The socialist are content to mandate cradle to grave programs.
Having social support programs is not socialism in the sense of the government owning the means of production. Perhaps you mean the U.S. and Canada are mixed systems, with social safety nets and robust market sectors. That's been true for generations.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:29
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There are no robust markets in education or medical care...there is only mediocrity. The client has become the government instead of the individual. CRT has become a propaganda tool, affirmative action a tool of racism. Doctors are punished if they don't follow a government protocol. Medical administration reaps rewards for following government mandates and affirming government data. Actual data is hidden and unavailable. Socialism is a disease, not a solution to a disease. These are the precursors to build back better. No thanks. And I don't need a social media censorship regime.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 16:44
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indyjonesouthere: There are no robust markets in education or medical care
Education has been public for a century. Medicine has resisted market forces since the widespread introduction of insurance after WWII. There's no market in the provision of military protection either. However, large segments of the economy still constitute robust markets. It's a mixed system, as is every successful modern economy.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:49
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Education was operated on the local level (school district) until teachers and dems mandated that it operate at the state level for funding. That removed decision making from the local level. That meant that it was ripe for socialist politicians to mandate everything from daily meals to sex education, malthusian enviromentalism, CRT, affirmative action, discipline equity, pre-preschool, gender perversions, and new math. The outcome of all of this is the ever decreasing functioning of students. But what a winner for build back better, aka NWO or the third way.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 17:19
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Medicine, for the majority of people until medicaid/medicare, was paid by the individual through his own policy and we were still viewed as the client. Even the Canadians with government care could still come down to Minnesota and have medical problems treated if they could pay. It was Obama care that ripped individual medical care to shreds. Obama care can quickly converge into NO care unless you tow the government line. Kind of like freezing bank assets and other personal property just as Canada is now doing. No thanks, get rid of the medical oligarchy and government worship.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 17:27
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indyjonesouthere: Education was operated on the local level (school district) until teachers and dems mandated that it operate at the state level for funding.
Regardless, it insulated education from most market forces. indyjonesouthere: Medicine, for the majority of people until medicaid/medicare, was paid by the individual through his own policy and we were still viewed as the client. Widespread employer-based health insurance predates Medicare, and led to the detachment from market forces. The problem is that modern medicine is highly complex, so no one knows how to shop for it. And it can be so expensive, that almost no one can afford it individually.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 17:31
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It insulated education from cost constraints and the demands of parents. Why do you think more parents are homeschooling and more parents want taxpayer vouchers for there kids to be able to attend any school of their choice. The cost of education and the dictatorship of the school board is driving reform. Just pay attention to teachers who are being called out for CRT and gender bending and also to the school boards that are being recalled and replaced. Reform is coming because parents will not tolerate teacher or school board interference. Taxpayer funds are paid by parents and they will demand to be the client whether government approves or not.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 18:20
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Employer paid health care was primarily afforded unions. I never had an employer health policy until 20 years before I retired and that was from a non union employer. For most employees it is a relatively recent benefit but it sure shows up as medical institutions viewing the employer or government as the client. The covid chaos is just a recent reminder of who demands to make mandates to individuals. It would seem the only choices they allow are abortions.
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indyjonesouthere
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2022-02-23 18:28
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indyjonesouthere: The Canadian socialist party and the Canadian communist party make up the ruling coalition in Canada
Meanwhile, Trudeau revokes emergency powers
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 22:35
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Canada Votes Away Its Freedom, 185 to 151
QUOTE: Trudeau has won the day and can proceed to crush the truckers and their supporters, seizing all their assets until they cry “uncle” and submit to his hegemony, murmuring how much they love Big Brother. . . . . The Left-fascists who are applauded these dark days in Canada, however, clearly don’t realize that they have authorized the use of a tool that can very easily be turned against them. Jagmeet Singh and the rest have probably never heard of Nikolai Bukharin, but they would be well-advised to study his life carefully now and ponder its lessons. Even as he was being dragged to his death, Bukharin was crying out, appealing to Stalin, certain that the whole thing had been a mistake, and that his comrade Stalin would ultimately rectify it. He was, of course, wrong. He didn’t realize that the authoritarian tools he had so unhesitatingly applied to others could be turned on him. Leftist revolutionaries always ultimately turn on one another; some of those who are thrilled that Trudeau is finally cracking down hard on those insufferable right-wingers will one day find that out. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2022/02/22/canada-votes-away-its-freedom-185-to-151-n1561056 feeblemind: Canada Votes Away Its Freedom, 185 to 151
Again, Authoritarianism ≠ things you don't like. The truckers were clearly a threat to the economy, and they refused a court order to disperse. Parliament affirmed the power of the government to put an end to the illegal protest. You can draw pictures of Trudeau with a Hitler mustache, but that doesn't make him Hitler. Are you claiming that government can never exercise emergency powers?
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 14:08
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Once again with the logical fallacies, which prove zachriel doesn't know what she's talking about.
Every labor strike is, by definition, a threat to the economy. Yet those are legal. This act was Authoritarianism by a corrupt government. As usual, the evidence proves you wrong again. DrTorch: Every labor strike is, by definition, a threat to the economy. Yet those are legal.
This wasn't just a strike, but a blockade of a major trading artery. Nor is every labor strike legal. Strikes are often adjudicated in the courts, and unions have to abide by the law just like everyone else, or they can face legal consequences. The court ruled the truckers had to disperse.
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:37
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If you had watched any of the videos it was obvious that the truckers were totally committed to none violence and were ready to be arrested. You could have assigned 2 or 3 cops to go into the crowd and begin arresting them one at a time with no violence, no trampling of grandma, no knees to the ribs, no butt stroking the heads, etc. There was ZERO need for violence, martial law, confiscating the trucks (just tow them and charge the fee to the owners) or confiscating bank accounts. Trudeau went WAY overboard and the police themselves should be ashamed. The longer Trudeau continues this stupid tyranny the worse the blowback is going to be. I honestly don't know if the Canadians will rally around the protestors but I know many Canadians and they are afraid right now. None of them will say anything publicly (or on social media) for fear of their government. IF THIS is what Trudeau wanted to accomplish then he has succeeded.
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Anon
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2022-02-23 16:36
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Anon: it was obvious that the truckers were totally committed to none violence and were ready to be arrested.
Many of the protesters are reported to have resisted arrest. Four were charged in a plot to kill police. https://nypost.com/2022/02/16/freedom-convoy-protesters-charged-in-plot-to-kill-cops/
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Zachriel
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2022-02-23 16:46
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Thanks for the link and why bother encouraging that Z shill, I've learned to just skip over his/her/them/they stuff. If I want that I can just turn on MSM.
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grant1863
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2022-02-23 17:02
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Australian magpies to the scientists: Mind your own business.
And California doesn't deserve to have bacon anyway. From Parson Doug Wilson .....
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/they-have-rats-down-there-that-will-eat-your-face/ A portrait in leadership..
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