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The war on Thanksgiving is real and it's spectacular

The war of TG is cleaning all of the pots and pans, dishes, silverware, napkins, etc.

'This is not our land': Students pen editorial on 'dark origins' of Thanksgiving

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"This is not our land" -- I imagine one might easily defend the thesis that one 67-year old woman in Sequim, or a gaffer in Ecuador, having zero white blood but that archaic bloodline with an unimpeachable tie to Mongolia or Polynesia owns the whole damn' continent. "First Immigrant" status buys nothing, not in Asia, not in Europe, nor the New World.

#1 LTC Ted on 2021-11-26 08:45 (Reply)

And, it's worse than that. The Indians here when Columbus landed were at the least the third set of immigrants who killed or absorbed (slavery) the "native" immigrants before them. Literally 100% of the "natives" who lived here stole the land from someone else.

#1.1 OneGuy on 2021-11-26 10:59 (Reply)

"The dark origins of Thanksgiving". Going after Abraham Lincoln I guess since he's the one who issued the first Thanksgiving Day proclamation. Thanksgiving as a tradition has little to do with the Pilgrims and if you're so petty, mean, angry, bitter, sad and pathetic that you can't have one single day out of the year to let people count their blessings in peace, somebody ought to yank that ring out of your nose, slap your little purple head, and kick your butt firmly back into Mom's basement, you little troll.

#2 Jerryskids on 2021-11-26 09:38 (Reply)

Jerryskids: "The dark origins of Thanksgiving".

QUOTE:

Thanksgiving Day, a function which originated in New England two or three centuries ago when those people recognized that they really had something to be thankful for—annually, not oftener—if they had succeeded in exterminating their neighbors, the Indians, during the previous twelve months, instead of getting exterminated by their neighbors, the Indians. Thanksgiving Day became a habit, for the reason that in the course of time, as the years drifted on, it was perceived that the exterminating had ceased to be mutual and was all on the white man's side, consequently on the Lord's side; hence it was proper to thank the Lord for it and extend the usual compliments.

— Mark Twain

#2.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-26 10:51 (Reply)

"the exterminating had ceased to be mutual and was all on the white man's side"

Arguably that isn't true. In the long ongoing war between "white man" and "Indians" the Indians killed more white men than vice versa. The Indians were simply better at it and they were usually the aggressors.

Some will point to the various diseases that before modern medicine killed people by the millions. In fact more immigrants died from diseases like smallpox than did Indians. Of course the popular belief is the exact opposite but that was never true. Smallpox was a deadly disease that affected everyone.

#2.1.1 JustMe on 2021-11-26 11:05 (Reply)

JustMe: Arguably that isn't true.

Then make the argument. Are you referring just to the coterminous United States, or to the Americas generally.

JustMe: Smallpox was a deadly disease that affected everyone.

Europeans had greater resistance to smallpox and other Old World diseases.

#2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-26 11:14 (Reply)

QUOTE:

KiddieZ: Then make the argument.

Based on a Mark Twain quote?

Oh you silly bitchez.

#2.1.1.1.1 Zachinoff on 2021-11-26 17:21 (Reply)

"Europeans had greater resistance to smallpox and other Old World diseases."

That is simply not true. About half of the children born at that time died from old world diseases before their 18th birthday. The Indians were not different physiologically from the immigrants. What they lacked was any effective way to deal with the disease. Many people survived by receiving constant care and being kept hydrated.

"Are you referring just to the coterminous United States, or to the Americas generally."

Both! Either! The Indians took their toll on the immigrants and had the home court advantage.

#2.1.1.1.2 JustMe on 2021-11-26 19:51 (Reply)

Z: Europeans had greater resistance to smallpox and other Old World diseases.

JustMe: [i]That is simply not true.

1. Most Europeans had already been exposed, so European populations had a large percentage who were immune. That means when epidemics occurred, the spread was slower and reduced.

2. Variolation was introduced in European populations in the 17th century.

3. Humans, like all organisms, evolve. Over centuries, those that had resistance to smallpox were more likely to leave descendants. (Interesting sidenote: Human evolution in response to smallpox also confers resistance to HIV. See Galvani & Slatkin, Evaluating plague and smallpox as historical selective pressures for the CCR5-Δ32 HIV-resistance allele, PNAS 2013.)

4. Indigenous Americans lost as much as 90% of their pre-colonial populations to introduced diseases.

JustMe: The Indians took their toll on the immigrants and had the home court advantage.

All you are doing is repeating your claim. Please provide support.

#2.1.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-27 10:27 (Reply)

Islamophobia BAD. Christianphobia or Europhobia GOOD!

#3 JustMe on 2021-11-26 10:01 (Reply)

"Rocker Bryan Adams Tests Positive for COVID for Second Time in a Month"

This is in spite of him being fully vaccinated.

#4 Anon on 2021-11-26 10:07 (Reply)

re 'This is not our land': Students pen editorial on 'dark origins' of Thanksgiving

Then perhaps the authors should leave and emigrate to wherever their land is?

#5 feeblemind on 2021-11-26 10:12 (Reply)

New Coronavirus Variant a ‘Serious Concern’ in South Africa

But of course it is.

And we all know why.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-25/who-meets-on-new-covid-19-variant-circulating-in-south-africa?utm_campaign=pol&utm_medium=bd&utm_source=applenews

#6 feeblemind on 2021-11-26 10:16 (Reply)

feeblemind: And we all know why.

Evolution. See Darwin, "On the tendency of Species to form Varieties", Linnean Society 1858.

#6.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-26 10:26 (Reply)

I believe they ran the genetic line back to the northern islands of Japan.

#7 Phillip on 2021-11-26 10:46 (Reply)

Phillip: I believe they ran the genetic line back to the northern islands of Japan.

If you are referring to the origin of Amerindians, that is now considered unlikely. Genetics indicates two separate migrations of Siberian populations through Beringia. See Scott et al., Peopling the Americas: Not “Out of Japan”, PaleoAmerica 2021.

#7.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-26 11:11 (Reply)

Don't forget the considerable evidence of pre-Columbian European immigrants to the new world.

#7.1.1 Geronimo on 2021-11-26 11:15 (Reply)

Geronimo: Don't forget the considerable evidence of pre-Columbian European immigrants to the new world.

While historically important, they don't appear to have left descendants.

#7.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-26 11:19 (Reply)

Yes, true. None were left alive. Total genocide.

#7.1.1.1.1 Geronimo on 2021-11-27 10:06 (Reply)

Geronimo: None were left alive. Total genocide.

That isn't known. It's possible they died out naturally or abandoned any settlements.

#7.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2021-11-27 10:29 (Reply)

It's also possible some Europeans may have joined local tribes, but their lineage died out, or at least, left no detectable genetic trace.

#7.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2021-11-27 10:31 (Reply)

German euthanasia clinics refusing unvaccinated customers

The headline reads like it must be from The Bee.

On a more somber note, whoever heard of a euthanasia "clinic"?

WTF?

Things have moved further along than I thought.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/german-euthanasia-clinics-refusing-unvaccinated-customers

#8 feeblemind on 2021-11-26 14:02 (Reply)

Soylent green part of the new green agenda?

#8.1 indyjonesouthere on 2021-11-26 18:45 (Reply)

Happy Thanksgiving everyone, and thank you Maggie's Farm for your intellectual feasts!

We should be grateful for all of the blessings bestowed upon us by Our Creator and our outrageous Good Fortune, and we should stop taking on people who voice stupid arguments. Let the stupidity ring in its own echo chamber, un-nourished and un-perpetuated.

#9 Aggie on 2021-11-26 18:57 (Reply)

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