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QUOTE: The Feds Are Forced to Release January 6th Surveillance Footage and Narratives Crumble The rioters set up a gallows and shouted "Hang Mike Pence!" Then they stormed the Capitol in an attempt to find Mike Pence. https://i.natgeofe.com/n/90083333-b963-4ffd-b70a-99be125bc1e3/gettyimages-1230476983.jpg If people were just walking in, it's because they were following a mob that had forced their way into the Capitol with the express purpose of disrupting the peaceful transfer of power. The rioters even beat a cop with an American flag. https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210110210555-capitol-riot-officer-beating-american-flag-large-169.jpg QUOTE: But trespassing is not a justification to keep people locked up indefinitely The vast majority of those arrested have been released pending trial. Only those that were violent or the court believed would not comply with court orders have been held. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55575260 Tired of your lies.
1. They did not storm the Capitol to find Pence. 2. The "gallows" was obviously a mock up. And they didn't even have an effigy. 3. You made a claim about a blurry picture. A claim that doesn't even matter overall. 4. You claim that "only those that were violent.." is not backed up by a Jan 7 story. Once again you simply throw out citations that are irrelevant. 5. Your BBC story is missing huge amounts of information that is readily available. This is just another post with the attempt to deceive, which makes you a liar. It's trivial to do this every time you post, because you lie every time you post. DrTorch: 1. They did not storm the Capitol to find Pence.
They stormed the Capitol yelling "Hang Mike Pence!" who was only moments away from being overrun by the mob. DrTorch: 2. The "gallows" was obviously a mock up. And they didn't even have an effigy. It's a real rope, but good point. They left it open for Pence. The gallows might be considered free speech. Yelling "Hang Mike Pence!" might be considered free speech. But erecting a gallows, yelling "Hang Mike Pence", then storming the Capitol where Pence is presiding over the peaceful transfer of power is not free speech, but a crime against the Republic. Nor does posturing minimize the danger of an out-of-control riot being led by people who intended to use violence to stop the peaceful transfer of power. DrTorch: 3. You made a claim about a blurry picture. The video and testimony are very clear. They beat a police officer with an American flag. Over a hundred police officers were injured. DrTorch: 4. You claim that "only those that were violent.." is not backed up by a Jan 7 story. Feel free to provide examples of anyone who is being held without the benefit of a court hearing for bail. DrTorch: 5. Your BBC story is missing huge amounts of information that is readily available. Feel free to provide additional information, but there are more than enough evidence that the mob violently forced their way into the Capitol where vulnerable members were still sheltering. https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/14EE/production/_116385350_gettyimages-1230465266.jpg You have said some utterly ridiculous things before, but Mike Pence being moments away from being overrun by a mob, that is a chart topper. LOL.
B. Hammer: Mike Pence being moments away from being overrun by a mob
A single police officer lured the mob away from the Senate Chamber at 2:14. Pence was not evacuated until 2:30. A minute later rioters made it to the Senate entrance. Pence and his family were hidden only 100 feet away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFfci-wwqQA
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Zachriel
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2021-09-23 11:20
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Narrative Change: Now it is Pence and his family.
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B. Hammer
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2021-09-23 11:59
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B. Hammer: Now it is Pence and his family.
Video shows his family. Facts don't go away because you don't like them.
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Zachriel
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2021-09-23 12:44
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Zachriel
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2021-09-24 09:59
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I believe those were the FBI interlopers trying to create a dangerous situation to allow law enforcement to use deadly force.
The one good thing about all those videos is that it is obvious to anyone watching them that many of the most outspoken and violent were clearly not Trump supporters but rather left wing agitators.
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Just me
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2021-09-23 12:01
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Just me: The one good thing about all those videos is that it is obvious to anyone watching them that many of the most outspoken and violent were clearly not Trump supporters but rather left wing agitators.
The video and court record shows that the rioters were virtually all Trump supporters.
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Zachriel
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2021-09-23 12:46
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If Mike Pence committed treason then the crowd was demanding an acceptable sentence. Why is that a problem?
But what's funny is that You conceded the gallows was a mock up. Who cares if it was empty. It wasn't real. So you admitted you were wrong. As I always point out. The video and testimony are very clear. They beat a police officer with an American flag. Over a hundred police officers were injured. - Then provide evidence. The best you could do is one blurry photo. We also know that at least three cops lied under testimony, as it was broadcast. We also know that claims were made about Sicknick's death that weren't true. We also know that several of the violent participants were from Antifa and BLM groups. Feel free to provide examples of anyone who is being held without the benefit of a court hearing for bail. - That's not what you wrote in your first post. More of your dishonest. That's all you ever post. And I've pointed it out for years. DrTorch: If Mike Pence committed treason then the crowd was demanding an acceptable sentence.
Ah, yes. Justice by lynch mob. Pence didn't commit treason by any stretch of the imagination. And he has a right to a trial. DrTorch: But what's funny is that You conceded the gallows was a mock up. We noted it was a real rope. What we granted was that they didn't hang an effigy. They left it open for Pence. DrTorch: Then provide evidence. Have you been living under a bridge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXS-DvhQSog&t=64s DrTorch: That's not what you wrote in your first post. We noted that the vast majority of those arrested have been released pending trial. You know this is public record. You only have to look. https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/capitol-riot-are-hundreds-of-defendants-still-in-jail/65-dffb1d7e-089a-4406-ae4e-c54748e11953
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Zachriel
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2021-09-23 14:03
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It says a lot, that the Feds were forced to release this video footage. I’m surprised that they complied. It seems that there are vast swathes of federal ‘employees’, elected officials and judicial appointees, that have gone full on fascist. And it’s not just in America, look at Australia and New Zeland. It almost like there was some sort of plan.
The Feds Are Forced to Release January
6th Surveillance Footage and Narratives Crumble: Sooo, as we expected, they've LIED to us. "The rioters set up a gallows and shouted "Hang Mike Pence!" Then they stormed the Capitol in an attempt to find Mike Pence. https://i.natgeofe.com/n/90083333-b963-4ffd-b70a-99be125bc1e3/gettyimages-1230476983.jpg" WHY have I not heard of this before, Zach? Sam L: WHY have I not heard of this before, Zach?
There's the picture. It was all over the news, as were videos of the rioters chanting "Hang Mike Pence!" as they roamed the halls of the Capitol looking for him. Perhaps your sources of information are actually propaganda outlets. Hang Mike Pence! WTF is this: https://twitter.com/prof_freedom/status/1440758230423007238?s=21
I’m trying to imagine some type of missing context that excuses that level of passive-aggressive bullshit from a cop. Blindsided and then body-slammed face-first into a concrete floor? Sneaking up from behind to body slam someone is passive-agressive bullshit when the dude is just standing there. Where’s the threat to anyone?
OK, I would call that treachery I guess. The cop that did it deserves a good thrashing.
When I think of passive-aggression, I'm thinking of doing something that is indirectly hostile - that is non-confrontational, yet forces the victim to alter their behavior in order avoid it somehow. Like for example, blocking a supermarket aisle by turning the cart sideways, and then pretending to inspect items on the shelf while holding on to it firmly so that others have to wait. It relies on people observing conventional social niceties in order to work. A few hundred "rioters" entered the capitol. Of that group it is estimated that a dozen where paid FBI instigators pushing the demonstrators to act violently. There were about 20-30 left wing Antifa and BLM people there also pushing for violence and beating cops and making inflammatory statements. This "riot" was a setup to trap Trump supporters in a "lawfare" attack and it succeeded.
The real issue now is that the DOJ has used draconian and unlawful measures unseen in U.S history but common in Russia to punish and torture these citizens many of whom committed no crime on Nov 6th. Ironic, that so many innocent people are now having crimes committed against them by the DOJ under Garland. (Wow did we luck out when Garland was not allowed to become a supreme court jusge!) Nov3TheRealInsurrection: Of that group it is estimated that a dozen where paid FBI instigators pushing the demonstrators to act violently. There were about 20-30 left wing Antifa and BLM people there also pushing for violence and beating cops and making inflammatory statements.
Even a cursory look at the videos and at the court record shows that the mob was composed almost entirely of Trump supporters. https://whyy.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/pro-trump_insurrection_capitol_confederate_flag_011421-768x469.png The effort to force companies to fire unvaccinated is a foolish mistake. I am beginning to believe it is an intentional mistake. Imagine your hospital fires 40% of their nurses for this reason how does that benefit the sick and injured? Of course it doesn't it harms our health care system. Is that the intent? Why?
Now consider the same possibility in our armed forces. The U.S. government is intending to simply eject military members who refuse the vaccine. How many? 10%, 20%, more? How does that strengthen our national defense? It doesn't of course and it appears that is exactly the intent. Why? Since Biden was propped into the presidency by unknown agents some of whom were Chinese our fake president has declared war on white men in the military and now on unvaccinated in the military. Both of these efforts essentially accomplish one thing and that is to force valuable fighters from our military thus making us weaker. Again, why? Is "THE BIG GUY" a traitor and/or manipulated by traitors? What is the end game here? Hmmm! What possible reason would global actors have in weakening the U.S. military??? The disappearing Haitians...We've been lied to???? The admin state and dem socialists lying their asses off and we're just shocked I tell you! In no time ole Zach will swear that Scotty just beamed them back over to Haiti...along with their measles, TB, and corona of course.
And another shoe drops on the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative.
QUOTE: Z, on Tuesday: Except that Trump’s campaign manager provided internal campaign documents to a Russian agent, knowing that Russia was actively working to interfere in the U.S. presidential campaign. From the linked article: QUOTE: The indictment goes into exacting detail to explain that Sussman used his cyber security contacts to use “un-public” government data culled from favorable government contacts and “to mine this internet data to establish ‘an inference’ and ‘narrative’ that would tie then-presidential candidate Donald Trump to Russia.” The whole thing was a carefully constructed lie. Treason. B. Hammer: The whole thing was a carefully constructed lie.
The linked article does not address the actions of Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, which were investigated by the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee. B. Hammer: Treason. No. That wouldn't be treason, but dirty politics. What Manafort did could be construed as treason as it was to the benefit of a foreign adversarial power at the expense of the U.S. QUOTE: The 27-page indictment alleges that Sussman lied to the FBI The indictment is surprisingly weak. The other attorney did not take notes at the meeting, and later testified that he wasn't sure if Sussmann had said whether he was working for the Clinton campaign. QUOTE: The indictment goes into exacting detail to explain that Sussman used his cyber security contacts to use “un-public” government data culled from favorable government contacts and “to mine this internet data to establish ‘an inference’ and ‘narrative’ that would tie then-presidential candidate Donald Trump to Russia.” We cannot find the term "un-public" anywhere in the indictment. "Non-public" is found, but that refers to DNS data from various Internet companies, not government data. Notably, they add "Being able to provide evidence of anything that shows an attempt to behave badly in relation to this, the VIPs would be happy. They're looking for a true story that could be used as the basis for closer examination." Breaking news!!
Revolutionary war traitor Benedict Arnold is being defended by Zachriel. It was an honest mistake since Arnold's actions so closely mimicked the current Democrat party leaders that Zachriel thought he was part of the Biden administration and in a knee jerk reaction Zach made up excuses and posted them on all conservative blogs. OneGuy: Revolutionary war traitor Benedict Arnold is being defended by Zachriel.
Have no idea what you are talking about. Arnold betrayed his oath, his fellow soldiers, and his country. The KiddieZ loves making ambiguous statements and then breathlessly turning into "drama queens" posting see, see we told ya so!
Worthless cocksuckers the lot of them. Bwaha! Lolgf !!!
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Zachinoff
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2021-09-23 14:17
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"Arnold betrayed his oath, his fellow soldiers, and his country."
LOL! That's is what "mimicked the current Democrat party leaders" means.
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OneGuy
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2021-09-23 19:47
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It is interesting that the media is going after Brian Laundries parents. Making up stuff and then using that to implicate them in the crime. Why do that? Wait until the story is verified and if they did anything wrong they will most likely be charged.
Especially faulting them for not making public statements and apologies. Clearly if they consulted a lawyer he would have told them don't say anything public or private. Don't say anything because the long knives will be out for you. Expect Gabby Petito's family to say terrible things about you just to try to get you to say or do something stupid. Don't talk to the media their goal is to indict you (just ask George Zimmerman). So now with the family following the good advice of their lawyer the media attacks them for staying quiet. Again being inflammatory in an attempt to force them to say something that can be used/twisted to put them into the legal system. I have no idea if the Landrie parents helped Brian in some illegal way, but neither does the media. Can't we wait until we know something before we string up these people??? Biden admin implementing international travel rules. They need to travel over to Steve Kirsch's website. 200K killed by vaccine.
https://skirsch.com/covid/Killed.pdf Personally, I don't read a word of what that Zachriel troll posts. Not sure why any of the Maggie readers respond to its blather - stop feeding the troll. Ignoring it kills it.
Same here. It/they/zhe must think it's saving the world one echo at a time.
Wow! 29 comments! Must be some interesting discussions going on, can't wait to read them!
Oh. Nevermind. re The Empire Strikes Back: China Returns to Afghanistan
If we couldn't buy off the Taliban, why would China be able to? What part of Chinese culture/ideology would induce the Taliban cozy up to China? At Whatfinger FDA...heart attacks 71 times more often for Vaxx takers. Elites are exempt from mask rules...wonder if they're exempt from heart attacks?
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