Maggie's Farm

It wasn't completely fictitious. There was an on-going server connection between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, though it may have been innocuous and related to marketing emails.


Sussmann's attorneys claim he said he was not there at the "behest" of the Clinton campaign, a significant difference in terms of the indictment. There was only one other party to the conversation, then-FBI General Counsel James Baker. In 2018, Baker testified that he couldn't remember if Sussmann told him he was working for the Clinton campaign. He also admitted that he wouldn't have viewed the information differently if he had been made aware of the connection, undermining a key claim of the indictment.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/09/16/special-prosecutor-john-durham-charges-ex-attorney-for-clinton-campaign-with-lying-to-fbi-512316

OneGuy: And so the coverup of this insurrection begins...

Have no idea what that means. Even if everything in the indictment were true, that doesn't constitute insurrection by any stretch.

OneGuy: A coup, an attempted unlawful seizure of power, mutiny, revolution, insurgency

You haven't point to any actions that constitute an attempt at an unlawful seizure of power. Do you mean when the President's supporters stormed the Capitol and tried to capture or kill the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and the President of the Senate, Mike Pence?

SK: the extreme danger of a presidential campaign colluding with a foreign country

You mean when Trump's campaign manager gave internal campaign documents to a Russian agent knowing that Russia was interfering in the presidential campaign?

Because otherwise, it's not clear what you are alleging.

SK: PLEASE keep giving responses like this

We'll take that as a yes, you were referring to Trump's campaign manager (convicted, then pardoned by Trump).

• Real GDP increased at an annualized rate of 6.3% in 1Q2021.
https://www.bea.gov/sites/default/files/2021-06/qgdpstate0621.pdf

• Real GDP (chained 2012) is $2.8 trillion.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/248053/us-real-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/

• The California state government is running very large cash surpluses.
https://www.politico.com/states/california/story/2021/05/10/california-has-a-staggering-757b-budget-surplus-1381195

Does California have issues? Of course. Is California a failed state? Hardly.

indyjonesouthere: As more of the Russia, Russia, Russia theatre gets exposed we can see more of the dem socialist insurrection being exposed.

Same question. What insurrection?

indyjonesouthere: The Covid chaos looks to be more theatre as well

692,000 dead with 1,500 more dying each day is hardly "theater."

indyjonesouthere: With PCR test at 40 cycles and changing cause of death to ensure that Covid is result.

PCR tests almost never give a false positive, though they often give a false negative (when given too soon or too late during the infection). If the person has never been infected, then the PCR test can't find fragments of the virus, regardless of amplification. See Böger et al., Systematic review with meta-analysis of the accuracy of diagnostic tests for COVID-19, American Journal of Infection Control 2021.

indyjonesouthere: Your numbers mean nothing.

Excess death statistics support the COVID death count.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/figures/mm7015a4-F.gif

As do studies of death certificates.
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e2.htm

indyjonesouthere: And banning Ivermectin use on Covid is nothing short of murder.

At this point, testing on Ivermectin effectiveness with regard to COVID is inconclusive. Phase 3 testing is ongoing. How did you think it worked?

DrTorch:
Table 3 includes the performance of the PCR tests. All have a significant False Positive rate.

Table 3 doesn't include specificity for PCR tests, only sensitivity. As you note, specificity was as high as 100%, meaning few if any false positives. See the supplement for details.

To make it easier for our readers, here is the Table S2 from the Supplementary materials.

Table S2. Specificity results for the PCR technique

Note that there were no false positives for nasal swabs (41/41) and only one for throat swabs (71/72).

indyjonesouthere: PCR tests at 40 cycles could easily mean you might have been around someone that had Covid.

It only takes a few hundred viroids to cause disease. It is very unlikely that a swab would find the virus without the person being infected. Many people are re-tested using other means, including genetic sequencing, and PCR testing has been shown to have very few false positives.

indyjonesouthere: Excess deaths could mean a new influenza strain or any other cause.

There's a test for that! There was virtually no flu last year, probably because of social measures to limit the spread of COVID.

CDC: During September 27, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,899 (0.2%) of 1,081,671 clinical samples tested were positive for an influenza virus

indyjonesouthere: Only that they tested + at 40 cycles.

We noted the study of death certificates. If someone has COVID and dies of pneumonia, that death is properly counted in the COVID death statistics. And that count is consistent with the statistics of excess deaths.

indyjonesouthere: They could easily issue an emergency use authorization rather than killing people with remdesivir.

There's a process for that!

FDA: An EUA request for a COVID-19 vaccine can be submitted to FDA based on a final analysis of a phase 3 clinical efficacy trial or an interim analysis of such trial

indyjonesouthere: The PCR tests operate on an emergency authorization just as the Covid "vaccine" does.

PCR tests have to meet certain requirements, including proof of the quality of the entire chain of the process. Here's an example:
https://www.fda.gov/media/136151/download

The COVID vaccines completed phase 3 trials, which incluced tens of thousands of volunteers in double-blind tests.

indyjonesouthere: If the PCR test is so reliable why the need for a EUA?

Because there was an emergency, as in Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). That doesn't mean there wasn't testing submitted before the EUA was issued. Meanwhile, the Pfizer vaccine has been granted full approval.

indyjonesouthere: If the vaccine is so reliable why the need for a EUA?

Full approval takes longer, and includes longer term studies. Billions of vaccines have been administered, so the data is now available to complete phase 5 for full approval.

indyjonesouthere: Ivermectin is shown to be safe to control other medical problems which is more than can be said for the "Vaccine".

Phase 3 trials have not been completed for Ivermectin.
https://www.fda.gov/patients/learn-about-drug-and-device-approvals/drug-development-process

indyjonesouthere: There is no downside to using Ivermectin to control Covid

Ivermectin poisoning hospitalizes 5 in Oregon

indyjonesouthere: The only pfizer vaccine approved is not available yet.

It's the same vaccine. That's how phase 5 works.

indyjonesouthere: And by the way, how many people have been killed by Remdisivir?

The data indicates lower mortality for COVID patients who take Remdisivir, though a WHO study found otherwise.

indyjonesouthere: How many killed and injured by the vaccine?

Deaths after vaccination are about what would be expected due to death from all causes, so that would indicate that the vaccine has resulted in very few deaths. Severe side effects are very rare.

indyjonesouthere: How many cycles do each of the PCR tests require and does it state so with the test.

The number of cycles varies, and yes, it states so in the manufacturer's protocol for the specific test.

indyjonesouthere: Why do we not get information on the number of cycles required by each PCR test and what is actually mandated by the dotgov?

Because it's not useful information for most patients.

There are two types of PCR tests: qualitative and quantitative. In a qualitative test, the machine runs for a set number of cycles based on the manufacturer's specifications. If it detects the viral sequence, it returns a positive result. If it doesn't detect the viral sequence, it returns a negative result. A more exacting test is the quantitative test. In a quantitative test, the machine automatically stops when it detects the viral sequence. This type of test may be better for someone who has previously been infected, and may still exhibit viral fragments.

In any case, no amount of amplification will detect a viral sequence that isn't there.

indyjonesouthere: It is labeled differently and is not yet available.

It's the exact same product.

indyjonesouthere: Lets see some of those manufacturers protocols that state the cycles.

We cited Lab Corp's PCR test above. Their qualitative test stops at 40 cycles. Again, regardless of amplification, it can't detect what isn't there.
https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acscentsci.0c00501

indyjonesouthere: The avers reporting site disagrees with you and they likely don't get but a portion as reporting is not required.

Healthcare providers are required by law to report adverse events to VAERS: 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–25.

VAERS: "While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable."

indyjonesouthere: Cycle information is extremely important just as side effects are important.

In most cases, cycle information isn't important. However, in the case of someone with a history of previous infection, then quantitative testing may be appropriate to help distinguish trace viral fragments from an actual viral infection.

Z: We cited Lab Corp's PCR test above. Their qualitative test stops at 40 cycles.

Sorry. Wrong link. They set their qualitative protocol to 38 cycles.

indyjonesouthere: With the new label they will be liable for side effects.

That is incorrect. The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act provides liability protection for “any antiviral, any other drug, any biologic, any diagnostic, any other device, or any vaccine, used to treat, diagnose, cure, prevent, or mitigate COVID-19 . . . ”
https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/LSB/LSB10443

indyjonesouthere: Lab corp test stops at 40 cycles? And it still operates with an emergency authorization? It should stop at 30 or fewer cycles.

Gee whiz. You would think they would test their protocol. Oh, they did. And we provided the link to show how they did it. Do you have actual scientific evidence of why the specific testing protocol should be changed to 30 cycles? Why not 32? Or 28?

indyjonesouthere: Who determines if vaers information is acceptable and where do these "processed" numbers show up.

VAERS is co-managed by the CDC and the FDA, who analyze reports of adverse events to look for unusual or unexpected patterns that might indicate possible safety problems. The data is publicly available for scientific study.

indyjonesouthere: Cycle information is important as any test run enough times can come up positive.

That is not correct. PCR looks for specific RNA sequences. They're like fingerprints. Amplification won't change the uniqueness of the sequence. Here's some information on rare, but severe adverse effects from the vaccine:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7032e4.htm

indyjonesouthere: Government studies..

We asked for scientific evidence. All you did was repeat your claim.

indyjonesouthere: Has the CDC/FDA checked and approved the cycles that Lab Corp uses being it is an EUA?

The protocol is part of the EUA. Here's the example again:
https://www.fda.gov/media/136151/download

indyjonesouthere: Its funny that you should quote the CDC.

The CDC could certainly be wrong, though the graph concerning excess deaths is supported by multiple studies, and the cited study was based on actual documentary evidence. But you gave no reason other than handwaving to suggest the information is not correct.

The labor force is defined as those 16 or older.
https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat03.htm

The decline in labor force participation is largely due to the aging population. Indeed, labor force participation increased for every age group from 2010 to 2019:

Ages 16 to 19: 37.7% to 39.9%.
Ages 20 to 64: 77.5% to 78.3%.
Ages 65 to 74: 24.8% to 26.8%.
Ages 75 and older: 5.7% to 7.2%
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/06/why-did-labor-force-participation-rate-decline-when-economy-was-good.html