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Monday, September 20. 2021
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Why the Culture Wars in Schools Are Worse Than Ever Before. The history of education battles — from fights over evolution to critical race theory — shows why the country’s divisions are growing
Teaching that math is ‘racist’ will taint the field for everyone, including those who need it most.
The Indictment of Hillary Clinton's Lawyer is an Indictment of the Russiagate Wing of U.S. Media
Is California a failed state?
So how did 15,000 Haitians suddenly find their way to Del Rio, Texas?
Joe Manchin Is Realizing That His Party’s Spending Plans Are Absurd
AOC Introduces Amendment To Halt U.S. Arms Sale To Israel…
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I keep reading mushy articles about the conflict over public schools that wonder why those yucky conservatives want to stop teachers from posing thoughtful questions about new perspectives, as if that's what had parents up in arms.
I doubt you could get 2 parents to show up to protest at a school board hearing over a teacher who asked kids to think critically about why the Holocaust makes us angry and sad. You can definitely get a crowd to show up if you have video of teachers making a white kid stand in the corner and acknowledge that he's evil because of his heritage, his skin color, or his habit of turning in homework on time.
The Indictment of Hillary Clinton's Lawyer is an Indictment of the Russiagate Wing of U.S. Media. . . The lie that Sussman allegedly told the FBI occurred in the context of his mid-2016 attempt to spread a completely fictitious story: that there was a "secret server” discovered by unnamed internet experts that allowed the Trump organization to communicate with Russia-based Alfa Bank.
It wasn't completely fictitious. There was an on-going server connection between the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank, though it may have been innocuous and related to marketing emails.
It was in the course of trying to lure the FBI into investigating this scam conspiracy theory when Sussman allegedly lied to Baker, by concealing the fact — outright denying — that he was peddling the story in his role as lawyer for the Hillary Clinton campaign
Sussmann's attorneys claim he said he was not there at the "behest" of the Clinton campaign, a significant difference in terms of the indictment. There was only one other party to the conversation, then-FBI General Counsel James Baker. In 2018, Baker testified that he couldn't remember if Sussmann told him he was working for the Clinton campaign. He also admitted that he wouldn't have viewed the information differently if he had been made aware of the connection, undermining a key claim of the indictment.
OneGuy: And so the coverup of this insurrection begins...
Have no idea what that means. Even if everything in the indictment were true, that doesn't constitute insurrection by any stretch.
A coup, an attempted unlawful seizure of power, mutiny, revolution, insurgency... An insurrection by the Communist Democrats. Not "just" Hillary, but the far left and the middle left.
These are not your fathers Democrats. These are not JFK Democrats. They are anti-constitutional Marxists/Leninists whose only agenda is power and money; YOUR power and money.
OneGuy: A coup, an attempted unlawful seizure of power, mutiny, revolution, insurgency
You haven't point to any actions that constitute an attempt at an unlawful seizure of power. Do you mean when the President's supporters stormed the Capitol and tried to capture or kill the Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, and the President of the Senate, Mike Pence?
You must have a day off from advising the Raytheon board and JCS and tweaking the Hubbell mirror.
And here you are again at Maggie's keeping the world safe for democracy by attempting to make the argument about something it isn't--the intentional hyperbole of the language--instead of what it IS about--the extreme danger of a presidential campaign colluding with a foreign country and US law enforcement agencies to undermine the opposing campaign. It's your usual MO.
You are a deeply dishonest person and everyone here knows you would be on the opposite side of essentially every issue if the parties were reversed.
I don't think this is a person. More likely a bot that is part of the dem borg.
I don't think it's a bot. A bot doesn't have the capacity to be so openly and aggressively hypocritical.
It's almost like a parody done to mock the left, but I don't think that's it either.
It's just somebody with decent search skills and no underlying understanding of anything the results actually represent, What we're seeing is essentially the character Otto from "A Fish Called Wanda."
SK: the extreme danger of a presidential campaign colluding with a foreign country
You mean when Trump's campaign manager gave internal campaign documents to a Russian agent knowing that Russia was interfering in the presidential campaign?
Because otherwise, it's not clear what you are alleging.
Oh good lord! This is comical as hell! PLEASE keep giving responses like this. They make my point better than ANYTHING anyone else could say.
SK: PLEASE keep giving responses like this
We'll take that as a yes, you were referring to Trump's campaign manager (convicted, then pardoned by Trump).
Is California a failed state?
• Real GDP increased at an annualized rate of 6.3% in 1Q2021.
• Real GDP (chained 2012) is $2.8 trillion.
• The California state government is running very large cash surpluses.
Does California have issues? Of course. Is California a failed state? Hardly.
As more of the Russia, Russia, Russia theatre gets exposed we can see more of the dem socialist insurrection being exposed. The Covid chaos looks to be more theatre as well...expose it all. Money, power, and control are socialist tools.
indyjonesouthere: As more of the Russia, Russia, Russia theatre gets exposed we can see more of the dem socialist insurrection being exposed.
Same question. What insurrection?
indyjonesouthere: The Covid chaos looks to be more theatre as well
692,000 dead with 1,500 more dying each day is hardly "theater."
With PCR test at 40 cycles and changing cause of death to ensure that Covid is result. Your numbers mean nothing. And banning Ivermectin use on Covid is nothing short of murder.
indyjonesouthere: With PCR test at 40 cycles and changing cause of death to ensure that Covid is result.
PCR tests almost never give a false positive, though they often give a false negative (when given too soon or too late during the infection). If the person has never been infected, then the PCR test can't find fragments of the virus, regardless of amplification. See Böger et al., Systematic review with meta-analysis of the accuracy of diagnostic tests for COVID-19, American Journal of Infection Control 2021.
indyjonesouthere: Your numbers mean nothing.
Excess death statistics support the COVID death count.
As do studies of death certificates.
indyjonesouthere: And banning Ivermectin use on Covid is nothing short of murder.
At this point, testing on Ivermectin effectiveness with regard to COVID is inconclusive. Phase 3 testing is ongoing. How did you think it worked?
PCR tests almost never give a false positive
So I looked up your reference.
Table 3 includes the performance of the PCR tests.
All have a significant False Positive rate.
You got caught lying again.
Some other interesting details. From the paper
Only the studies by Xie et al. 28 and Yu et al. 30 tested the PCR method in a control group. In both trials, specificity was 100% for stool, urine, blood, nasal swab and throat swab samples, while throat swab and sputum samples had specificities of 98.6% and 90.0%, respectively (Table S2 in supplementary material).
because in the table it cites sensitivity of Urine at 0.0% so that's inconsistent. Furthermore, there are numerous typographical errors in this paper, a majority of the data comes from Chinese publications.
zachriel had admitted she knows nothing about science. She proves it again.
Table 3 includes the performance of the PCR tests. All have a significant False Positive rate.
Table 3 doesn't include specificity for PCR tests, only sensitivity. As you note, specificity was as high as 100%, meaning few if any false positives. See the supplement for details.
To make it easier for our readers, here is the Table S2 from the Supplementary materials.
Table S2. Specificity results for the PCR technique
Note that there were no false positives for nasal swabs (41/41) and only one for throat swabs (71/72).
PCR tests at 40 cycles could easily mean you might have been around someone that had Covid.
Excess deaths could mean a new influenza strain or any other cause. It doesn't mean they died of Covid. Only that they tested + at 40 cycles. Do remember all the new definition of cause of death and the government actually paying for those tests and pushing remdesivir and ventilators. Money buys results, just as the global warmist community.
It is only the government administrative state that finds Ivermectin ineffective. They could easily issue an emergency use authorization rather than killing people with remdesivir.
indyjonesouthere: PCR tests at 40 cycles could easily mean you might have been around someone that had Covid.
It only takes a few hundred viroids to cause disease. It is very unlikely that a swab would find the virus without the person being infected. Many people are re-tested using other means, including genetic sequencing, and PCR testing has been shown to have very few false positives.
indyjonesouthere: Excess deaths could mean a new influenza strain or any other cause.
There's a test for that! There was virtually no flu last year, probably because of social measures to limit the spread of COVID.
CDC: During September 27, 2020–May 22, 2021 in the United States, 1,899 (0.2%) of 1,081,671 clinical samples tested were positive for an influenza virus
indyjonesouthere: Only that they tested + at 40 cycles.
We noted the study of death certificates. If someone has COVID and dies of pneumonia, that death is properly counted in the COVID death statistics. And that count is consistent with the statistics of excess deaths.
indyjonesouthere: They could easily issue an emergency use authorization rather than killing people with remdesivir.
There's a process for that!
FDA: An EUA request for a COVID-19 vaccine can be submitted to FDA based on a final analysis of a phase 3 clinical efficacy trial or an interim analysis of such trial
The PCR tests operate on an emergency authorization just as the Covid "vaccine" does. Neither operates outside an emergency authorization. If the PCR test is so reliable why the need for a EUA? If the vaccine is so reliable why the need for a EUA? Ivermectin is shown to be safe to control other medical problems which is more than can be said for the "Vaccine". There is no downside to using Ivermectin to control Covid but their is a definite risk problem for the vaccine.
indyjonesouthere: The PCR tests operate on an emergency authorization just as the Covid "vaccine" does.
PCR tests have to meet certain requirements, including proof of the quality of the entire chain of the process. Here's an example:
The COVID vaccines completed phase 3 trials, which incluced tens of thousands of volunteers in double-blind tests.
indyjonesouthere: If the PCR test is so reliable why the need for a EUA?
Because there was an emergency, as in Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). That doesn't mean there wasn't testing submitted before the EUA was issued. Meanwhile, the Pfizer vaccine has been granted full approval.
indyjonesouthere: If the vaccine is so reliable why the need for a EUA?
Full approval takes longer, and includes longer term studies. Billions of vaccines have been administered, so the data is now available to complete phase 5 for full approval.
indyjonesouthere: Ivermectin is shown to be safe to control other medical problems which is more than can be said for the "Vaccine".
Phase 3 trials have not been completed for Ivermectin.
indyjonesouthere: There is no downside to using Ivermectin to control Covid
Ivermectin poisoning hospitalizes 5 in Oregon
The only pfizer vaccine approved is not available yet. And by the way, how many people have been killed by Remdisivir? How many killed and injured by the vaccine? How many cycles do each of the PCR tests require and does it state so with the test. Why do we not get information on the number of cycles required by each PCR test and what is actually mandated by the dotgov?
indyjonesouthere: The only pfizer vaccine approved is not available yet.
It's the same vaccine. That's how phase 5 works.
indyjonesouthere: And by the way, how many people have been killed by Remdisivir?
The data indicates lower mortality for COVID patients who take Remdisivir, though a WHO study found otherwise.
indyjonesouthere: How many killed and injured by the vaccine?
Deaths after vaccination are about what would be expected due to death from all causes, so that would indicate that the vaccine has resulted in very few deaths. Severe side effects are very rare.
indyjonesouthere: How many cycles do each of the PCR tests require and does it state so with the test.
The number of cycles varies, and yes, it states so in the manufacturer's protocol for the specific test.
indyjonesouthere: Why do we not get information on the number of cycles required by each PCR test and what is actually mandated by the dotgov?
Because it's not useful information for most patients.
There are two types of PCR tests: qualitative and quantitative. In a qualitative test, the machine runs for a set number of cycles based on the manufacturer's specifications. If it detects the viral sequence, it returns a positive result. If it doesn't detect the viral sequence, it returns a negative result. A more exacting test is the quantitative test. In a quantitative test, the machine automatically stops when it detects the viral sequence. This type of test may be better for someone who has previously been infected, and may still exhibit viral fragments.
In any case, no amount of amplification will detect a viral sequence that isn't there.
It is labeled differently and is not yet available. This is just more of the admin state and dem party creating confusion and chaos. Just like the southern border confuction and the afgan disaster.
Lets see some of those manufacturers protocols that state the cycles.
The avers reporting site disagrees with you and they likely don't get but a portion as reporting is not required. More BS.
Cycle information is extremely important just as side effects are important.
indyjonesouthere: It is labeled differently and is not yet available.
It's the exact same product.
indyjonesouthere: Lets see some of those manufacturers protocols that state the cycles.
We cited Lab Corp's PCR test above. Their qualitative test stops at 40 cycles. Again, regardless of amplification, it can't detect what isn't there.
indyjonesouthere: The avers reporting site disagrees with you and they likely don't get but a portion as reporting is not required.
Healthcare providers are required by law to report adverse events to VAERS: 42 U.S. Code § 300aa–25.
VAERS: "While very important in monitoring vaccine safety, VAERS reports alone cannot be used to determine if a vaccine caused or contributed to an adverse event or illness. The reports may contain information that is incomplete, inaccurate, coincidental, or unverifiable."
indyjonesouthere: Cycle information is extremely important just as side effects are important.
In most cases, cycle information isn't important. However, in the case of someone with a history of previous infection, then quantitative testing may be appropriate to help distinguish trace viral fragments from an actual viral infection.
Z: We cited Lab Corp's PCR test above. Their qualitative test stops at 40 cycles.
Sorry. Wrong link. They set their qualitative protocol to 38 cycles.
Doesn't matter if it is the same product. Unless it has the new label it is still operating under emergency authorization. With the new label they will be liable for side effects.
Lab corp test stops at 40 cycles? And it still operates with an emergency authorization? It should stop at 30 or fewer cycles. Any positive above that is a false positive.
Who determines if vaers information is acceptable and where do these "processed" numbers show up.
Cycle information is important as any test run enough times can come up positive. It is not an all or none test.
indyjonesouthere: With the new label they will be liable for side effects.
That is incorrect. The Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act provides liability protection for “any antiviral, any other drug, any biologic, any diagnostic, any other device, or any vaccine, used to treat, diagnose, cure, prevent, or mitigate COVID-19 . . . ”
indyjonesouthere: Lab corp test stops at 40 cycles? And it still operates with an emergency authorization? It should stop at 30 or fewer cycles.
Gee whiz. You would think they would test their protocol. Oh, they did. And we provided the link to show how they did it. Do you have actual scientific evidence of why the specific testing protocol should be changed to 30 cycles? Why not 32? Or 28?
indyjonesouthere: Who determines if vaers information is acceptable and where do these "processed" numbers show up.
VAERS is co-managed by the CDC and the FDA, who analyze reports of adverse events to look for unusual or unexpected patterns that might indicate possible safety problems. The data is publicly available for scientific study.
indyjonesouthere: Cycle information is important as any test run enough times can come up positive.
That is not correct. PCR looks for specific RNA sequences. They're like fingerprints. Amplification won't change the uniqueness of the sequence. Here's some information on rare, but severe adverse effects from the vaccine:
Government studies...oh boy. It sure does look for sequences but what does it show at 28 cycles, which is what actual doctors in research (not gov. research) recommend and even Fauci admitted that 35 cycles was to many cycles. Run enough cycles and it will show positive. Has the CDC/FDA checked and approved the cycles that Lab Corp uses being it is an EUA? I think you avoid the Denninger pieces as they are contradictory to what the FDA/CDC says and what Fauci says. Fauci, the CDC, and the FDA disagree on masks and even boosters. The government data is as corrupted as the gov institutions. That they still push remdesivir, which destroys the kidneys, is proof enough of their incompetence. Maybe they should consult with India about the effectiveness of Ivermectin or consult with Israel on the ineffectiveness of the jab.
indyjonesouthere: Government studies..
We asked for scientific evidence. All you did was repeat your claim.
indyjonesouthere: Has the CDC/FDA checked and approved the cycles that Lab Corp uses being it is an EUA?
The protocol is part of the EUA. Here's the example again:
Its funny that you should quote the CDC. Thats like quoting the FBI, CIA and 17 intelligence agencies on Russia, Russia, Russia.
indyjonesouthere: Its funny that you should quote the CDC.
The CDC could certainly be wrong, though the graph concerning excess deaths is supported by multiple studies, and the cited study was based on actual documentary evidence. But you gave no reason other than handwaving to suggest the information is not correct.
The "handwaving" meme again.
The "tell" from the Kiddiez when they know they've been caught in another lie.
Almost one-third of all working-age men in America aren’t doing diddly-squat.
The labor force is defined as those 16 or older.
The decline in labor force participation is largely due to the aging population. Indeed, labor force participation increased for every age group from 2010 to 2019:
Ages 16 to 19: 37.7% to 39.9%.
Ages 20 to 64: 77.5% to 78.3%.
Ages 65 to 74: 24.8% to 26.8%.
Ages 75 and older: 5.7% to 7.2%
And a Denninger piece on the uselessness of Remdesivir and Anthony Fauci.
A murder and suicide in Colorado classified as Covid deaths. Reported at WND. Perhaps there were no murders or suicides last year? The numbers reported on Covid are fake news and all for the Build Back Better, NWO Thousand Points of Light, The Third Way or whatever you wish to call it today. You can't have any of those without the money, power and control that the Covid lockdowns give you in mandating cheat by mail. The Covid theatre narrative is going the way of the Russia, Russia, Russia narrative.
Why don't the Haitian refugees just walk over the mountain to the Dominican Republic--there is a road and the DR is VERY successful economically?
Zach's gone wild (I know, that's not news...nor a surprise...)