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Personality traits, parental support, cultural ideals, cognitive issues, etc etc all play roles in how people do academically. And, of course, males do not do as well except at the top end. At Quillette, Remedial Education for All. It's about "dumbing down." Trades are not for low IQ. They are good for people who do not like regular school. Trackbacks
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Prior to the 1960's there were many people (mostly men) with high IQs in the trades and other service positions. There was no other real option for them. (They married the girl next door.) Then everything changed. Read the introduction and first chapters of The Bell Curve. There was a reason "customer service" went to hell. I suspect things are about to go full circle, given that men are being dissuaded from attending college. The (well-paid) trades are about to become dramatically more productive. But there are fewer "girls next door" for them to marry. That is a problem.
Plenty of "girls next door." Most of them are either overweight whiny drunks or tatted up sad sacks with bastard children from some layabout gangster. Not sure why, but too many women are ruining their brand.
The trades also require a floor IQ, below which people are not likely to become fully competent. However, people can learn things that might be useful in assisting tradesmen, and some in time learn enough to go out on their own even if they are slow to pick up new things. At minimum, you learn to do some of your own electricity.
Suburban schools and parents are a big part of the problem, as they reinforce the classist idea that the really important jobs one should strive for are - why, my goodness just like the ones we have, or wanted before we had to settle for teaching. A young teacher friend brought local adults in to talk about their jobs. After the HVAC came in she was told by her principal never to do this again. "We don't want to sell our kids short." This standard is particularly deadly when applied to blacks and Hispanics. Sell them short indeed! It's just a way of keeping them on the plantation. Up until the generation before mine, it was traditional for Jewish boys to also learn a trade, even if he was looking like an all-book child. I knew a PhD psychologist who had learned jewelry repair as a teenager and had kept it up as a sideline. Whenever he moved to a new place, he was able to support himself with that until he established a client base in psychology. One brother had trained as a bagel maker, another as a tailor. We will never return to that, but it would go a ways to reducing stigma, wouldn't it? More to the point, it gives the bookish a deeper appreciation and respect for the tradesman. There's a lot to be said for this, in principle I believe it would also make our society considerably stronger and more resilient to the kinds of shortages we experience when natural disasters strike regions, or when we have supply chain issues such as the ones over the past year. I think a lot of the reason that we've had these problems is because we have lost sight of the idea of long-term investment - both in communities, and in infrastructure with surplus physical capacities, and in physical inventories. You don't plan for what you [i]know[i] you'll need, you plan for something worse.
I grew up in the Minnesota education system. At that time there were quite a few technical high schools that did teach trades or at least trade skills. That started dying out after the mid 60's. It was assumed by the education establishment that everybody needed, at a minimum, at least a highschool education. It definitely wasted some years for those that hated school and wanted job training. They did finally add a large number of vo-tech schools that operated a lot like community colleges but it would have been better had they let students drop out of HS and go to the vo-tech institutions rather than wait until the end of HS. I knew of aviation techs (A&P) that learned the trade in HS and worked on wide body jets. I had a college BA to go along with tech school but I just could not deal with cubical life. Maybe that was the result of growing up on a farm. States need to allow education funds to follow the student and not have the funds go directly to the institution. We need parent/student choice rather that state institution mandates.
Personal anecdote. In my family we were taught to respect anyone who made on honest living, whether blue collar, manager, clerical, or professional. Come to think of it, the neighborhood I grew up in outside Chicago, was very diverse in regards to occupation. MBAs in Chemistry, gas company worker, owner of a pharmacy, and lots of people who worked for International Harvester. How's that for a blast from the past.
we were taught to respect anyone who made on honest living, whether blue collar, manager, clerical, or professional.
Indeed. There is no shame in taking honorable work, no matter how humbling it might be. That thought sustained me in times that I had terrible jobs.
Trades are not for low IQ. They are good for people who do not like regular school.
Yup. The electrician son of an HOA member installed some parking lot lighting for us at a discount rate. As I handled the ladder for him, I saw him in action. A lot of workarounds & improvising to get the job done. Good problem solver. But like you said, he didn't like school. His brother has a doctorate. And Yup. My HOA's boiler room was a spaghetti-like mess of piping after decades of work. From what I have seen, there is a great deal of variation in the ability of plumbers. Solving the piping issue was beyond the ability of many or most plumbers, but some had the ability to clean it up and analyze it. I'd say those who could do that level of analysis had 3-D thinking on an engineer level. we were taught to respect anyone who made on honest living, whether blue collar, manager, clerical, or professional. Indeed. Better to have a job, any job, instead of being unemployed. |