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Wednesday, September 8. 2021
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How to Prepare for COVID (and How Not To)
Taibbi on the invermectin craziness
Too lazy to work, too callous to care: COVID’s lesson on teachers unions
I doubt that is true of most teachers
In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man
CNN: American Racism Will Never Disappear; It Will Become ‘White Supremacy With A Tan’
Federal government using social-media giants to censor Americans
Steven Pinker defends "fake but accurate"
Mexico Says US Must Pay Up To Stem Illegal Immigration At US Border
Europe Now Hates Joe Biden Months After Calling Him “A Return To Adulthood” For America..
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Interesting that Pinker is defending the usefulness of irrational thought in an interview about his book Rationality: What It Is, Why It Seems Scarce, Why It Matters. As I've said a hundred times, probably more than once right here in the comment section, human beings are not merely rational creatures, they are rationalizing creatures. They believe that everything happens for a reason, that there's an explanation for every seemingly random act, and if we don't understand why something happened it's the fault of our limited knowledge and not because it was in fact a random occurrence. Whether it's the gods or fate or karma or "science", there's an answer for everything even if we don't know what it is.
This makes human beings very good at picking out patterns in what is in fact random data, which is what I suspect Pinker is referencing when he refers to the rationality of irrationality. "We don't know what causes this, but we know something must cause it and therefore it's rational to believe things are true that we don't actually know to be true." Sorry Steve, your premise is faulty, sometimes things just happen for no reason (or for reasons so complicated as to effectively be random) and what you're seeing as a pattern of cause-and-effect is just imaginary.
The Great Oklahoma Ivermectin Horse Paste & Gun Shot Tragedy is a great example of how phoney information is laundered into news. Rolling Stone had to work hard to fabricate such a story - there are bad assumptions at just about every paragraph in the story, multiple facts - nurse shortages, ambulance scarcity, rural hospitals that don't have ICU capacity, and no gunshot victims to line up. All of which raise red flags to any reader with a normal sense of healthy skepticism.
And what happened? The story got picked up by all the right customers, Maddow (MadCow), Steltzer, and so on. And although quickly and thoroughly debunked, these mass media outlets continued to run the story, and social media sites refused to pull it down - normally on high-alert if the political spin is clockwise-to-the-right. They have a system down pat.
American Digest had an interesting story on 52! (the sheer size of numbers represented by 52-factorial, compared to other big numbers). It's worth watching and contemplating the probability that the handling of the The Great Oklahoma Ivermectin Horse Paste & Gun Shot Tragedy is an unplanned, unconnected coincidental event.
Joe Rogan, who is a fitness beast anyway, is pretty much fully recovered after a week of COVID. His account (language warning) may be found here, about 15 minutes from his show:
Don't know how true this is, but Dan Bongino did a riff on the article's accompanying photograph. It shows a line of people dressed for winter supposedly waiting for the OK ER. He wondered if it was actually people in line for the vaccine last winter.
How to Prepare for COVID (and How Not To)
Whoever "Robert Jones" is, the man an idiot.
Even more shameful is how you are managing to embarrass the covid/vaccine deniers here.
I clicked through and saw it was American Thinker on covid and did not read a word of it. They have been consistently unreliable, following an agenda - as much or even more than any liberal, including Rachel Maddow - rather than trying to get the facts.
If it's AT and "preparing" for covid, that must mean no vaccination. As the only other choice is to believe in the myth "if we all just got a good case of it, we would have real, superstrong immunity, the good old-fashioned way." Sure. That worked so well with smallpox, and polio, and whooping cough, didn't it? Sure a few people got it, but then everyone was mostly immune...except no, it didn't work that way. It might work for plague, if you let it kill half the population - though the inevitable mutations that come from there being so many cases means it will come back in a few decades again. Or maybe we'll get lucky and it will be a few centuries. Rinse, Repeat.
Because of this, I no longer trust them on any issue - and I used to like them, many moons ago.
If by "embarrass" you mean Zachriel is perpetually wrong as usual, you're right. However, that's an inappropriate use of the term embarrass.
Zachriel, by her own admission, has neither credentials nor experience in science, yet she continues to post in these areas. She is wrong virtually 100% of the time.
Yet she persists. Why is that?
Rutgers bars unvaccinated students from attending virtual classes. The STUPID is STRONG at Rutgers...
Too lazy to work, too callous to care: COVID’s lesson on teachers unions
I doubt that is true of most teachers. Unions, however...
CNN: American Racism Will Never Disappear; It Will Become ‘White Supremacy With A Tan’: You can see why I call CNN the Crap "News" Network...
Federal government using social-media giants to censor Americans: Which is why I don't read "social media".
Europe Now Hates Joe Biden Months After Calling Him “A Return To Adulthood” For America.. They're not as smart as they THOUGHT they were. Bummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmer...
CNN's numbers have been tanking, yet they seem to just want to go more woke.
At a certain point you'd think they'd realize that Woke ain't keeping the lights on.
I'm not positive but I think the solar storm article describes what Bret Weinstein, of the Darkhorse podcast, has been warning about, a Carrington Event. The last one occurred before the civil war and before electricity. Theoretically it could totally disrupt the grid and do severe damage over a large area. In addition he is concerned about the supply chain for the components of the grid, such as transformers, most of which do not originate in the USA. In other words we could be dependent on foreign sources, who might prioritize other countries. Couple that with the "just in time" nature of modern inventory controls, and we could be up shit's creek and subject to prolonged power outages, disrupting and crippling the economy, an unprecedented disaster. Lots of these potential problems were supposed to be anticipated and addressed post 9/11. Let's hope they did a better job than the public health and biohazard experts.
Pfizer's new pill to fight Covid uses a protease inhibitor of which Ivermectin is a protease inhibitor. They give you a vaccination which insures that the virus will keep mutating and you are likely to become infected again while also shedding a high load of the virus on the unvaccinated. Do the shortcut...avoid the vaccine and take the prophylactic Ivermectin. All the rest of the FDA, CDC, NIH, DNC protocol is just to rake in more power, control, and money.
indyjonesouthere: They give you a vaccination which insures that the virus will keep mutating and you are likely to become infected again while also shedding a high load of the virus on the unvaccinated.
There is a lower probability of mutation in a vaccinated population as there are fewer and shorter infections, and therefore, fewer replications. If enough people get vaccinated, then the pandemic may well die out.
Re Europe hating Joe Biden...
They thought he was 'their type of person'. They didn't realize just how incapable he and his handlers are.
But Trump... Trump was a disrupter, 'not their kind'. It didn't matter he got things done - he wasn't a 'politician'.
So... well, I hate to say it, but I'm kind of glad Biden got elected. We've been pretending that the upper levels of our political system are capable and competent individuals. We didn't learn from Obama, a lot of us (but not enough) understood it when Trump was in office and making more progress on things than we'd seen in decades... but maybe more will learn from Biden's mess.
Our political 'elite' are anything but.
It will NOT die out because, unlike smallpox, the virus also lives in the animal population just as influenza does. The clot shot vaccinated will need the protease inhibitor as it is the only way to keep from creating more mutated viruses from reinfections. The vaccinated are a danger to themselves and the unvaccinated. The unvaccinated who use Ivermectin are a danger to no one and will not create the mutations.
indyjonesouthere: It will NOT die out because, unlike smallpox, the virus also lives in the animal population just as influenza does.
The virus will probably not die out, but the pandemic will end when enough people have immunity, either through vaccination or through infection.
indyjonesouthere: The clot shot vaccinated will need the protease inhibitor as it is the only way to keep from creating more mutated viruses from reinfections.
Try to actually respond to our statement: There is a lower probability of mutation in a vaccinated population as there are fewer and shorter infections, and therefore, fewer replications.
indyjonesouthere: The unvaccinated who use Ivermectin are a danger to no one and will not create the mutations.
So everyone will forever take Ivermectin? Or only after infection? in which case the virus will have replicated and created mutations, including possibly those that reduce the effectiveness of Ivermectin.
So you want to take booster shots and tablets for the rest of your life? The boosters need to be taken, it appears, about every 5-6 months and the tablets every day. Prophylactic Ivermectin can be taken once per month.
indyjonesouthere: So you want to take booster shots and tablets for the rest of your life?
Who is recommending taking tablets on an ongoing basis?
Booster shots may or may not be necessary once the pandemic is under control. The virus may attenuate and become more like a seasonal flu (which evolved from more dangerous variants). Most people have basic resistance to the flu, but because the flu mutates, they may be susceptible to new strains. By the way, about half of the American public gets the flu shot each year.
indyjonesouthere: Prophylactic Ivermectin can be taken once per month.
Ivermectin stays in your intestine for days, so it continues to kill worms. However, the half-life of Ivermectin in the blood is about a day, so it would not be effective against COVID-19 for any length of time (assuming it is effective at all).
You didn't answer concerning possible evolution of the virus to reduce the effectiveness of Ivermectin when in continuous use (similar to the problem of antibiotic resistance).
Pfizer already has the tablet product about ready to roll along with more booster shots. Ivermectin works well as a prophylactic which is why India went to Ivermectin when covid was out of control and the clot shot effectivity was poor at best. It is likely why most of Africa, other than South Africa, doesn't have a problem with covid as most are already on Ivermectin. Go ahead and stay on the clot shot but no way am I going that route. The covid shot is a merry-go-round that you can't exit.
indyjonesouthere: Pfizer already has the tablet product about ready to roll along with more booster shots.
They are different products. The booster shot is a vaccine. The Pfizer protease inhibitor is a therapeutic for those who are infected, not something to be given continuously to people. The product is still in human trails (phase 2/3).
indyjonesouthere: Ivermectin works well as a prophylactic which is why India went to Ivermectin
That's the claim, but the clinical data is still insufficient to determine whether Ivermectin is effective. The experience in India is that the virus's reproduction number started to drop before the change in recommendations on Ivermectin, that the recommendation was as a therapeutic, so couldn't account for a drop in cases, and that it would take some time for such a large and diverse country to adapt to the new regimen. Consequently, the drop in cases can't be directly attributed to the use of Ivermectin. Again, there needs to be clinical trials, which are ongoing.
You didn't answer concerning possible evolution of the virus to reduce the effectiveness of Ivermectin when in continuous use.
If it has the spike protein then Ivermectin will block it just as zinc blocks the spike protein and why the Pfizer tabs block the spike. If it doesn't have the spike protein then it is not covid. This is a pandemic of the vaccinated who shed multiple times the amount of virus as the unvaccinated. The vaccinated are the problem. With Biden mandating government employees get vaccinated that should at least cut down on the administrative state payrolls.
indyjonesouthere: If it has the spike protein then Ivermectin will block it just as zinc blocks the spike protein and why the Pfizer tabs block the spike.
Ivermectin and the new Pfizer therapeutic act as protease inhibitors, that is, they prevent that action of proteases required for the production of proteins to make virions.
indyjonesouthere: If it doesn't have the spike protein then it is not covid.
Viruses can evolve to reduce the effect of protease inhibitors, and can also evolve to avoid vaccines, such as by changing the configuration of the spike protein.
Z: can also evolve to avoid vaccines
(Or rather to overcome the immune response, whether acquired through a vaccine or natural infection.)
You keep taking your vaccine and boosters and I'll take my zinc, D3, and Ivermectin.
Wait a minute...the virus also lives in the animal population, just as influenza does??. I had not heard this. In fact, I had heard that to date, there have been no examples of COVID-19 found in the animal population, hence steering the hypothetical first human infections to the 'lab release' theory.
Which animals has it been found in? Where? Can you cite please I'd like to follow up.
Last you you were one of the deniers who claimed covid was nothing, just a cold, wouldn't hurt anyone, part of some bullshit conspiracy. Now you've graduated to a vax denier.
The disease jumped from an animal population, probably a bat. Some domestic animals have caught it from their owners and zoo animals (but unfortunately not all residents of MF) have been vaccinated.
This is from the CDC, which probably isn't recognized by your konspiracy klavern as being legitimate:
No, you need to retract that crap; I've said no such thing. I have had COVID and for me it was thankfully a pretty non-event, as it has been for other mostly healthy people that I know. For my wife, it was a bit more uncomfortable. I've also had a 90+ year old mom in various states of lockdown for over a year and we've had to battle for her mental health, as well as her physical well-being. People I know have died, and people I know have been vaccinated, have gotten it again and died.
Now you declare it 'jumped from the animal population', and then deflate that assertion by saying 'probably a bat'. No host species in the wild has been identified, no examples produced, as far as I know - not so?
I had forgotten about the pets (cats and dogs) catching it from humans and testing positive, I did read that earlier in the year. I have not heard of anybody catching it from an animal. As far as I can tell there is NO evidence of that, including your citation. In the old days, I guess we would call those things "Facts", and as you can see, I have invited you to refute them, in the manner of people having an exchange of ideas.
It's not a good look to pejoratively call people that ask logical questions 'deniers', evoking the spirit of the deniers of the Nazi Holocaust, who were a small collection of nasty cranks. Doing that only makes one look like an unreasonable idiot that wants only conformance, not discussion.
And in case you haven't noticed, Authority is not always your friend and protector, and is sometimes found to be incorrect in its assumptions, inconsistent in its application of the rules, and prone to protecting its favorites in spite of its supposedly even-handed mission of public service. If you want to obey without question, you don't need anybody's permission - be my guest.
It is found in several animal species but it seems that finding it in household pets is what concerns most virologists. The original drug testing on animals with the original Sars virus back in the mid 2000,s left the animals dead after they were later infected with Sars in the wild. The CDC website itself covers some of the animals such as household pets. You can probably search CDC and corona virus in animals to get quite a number of hits including the CDC hits.
indyjonesouthere: The original drug testing on animals with the original Sars virus back in the mid 2000,s left the animals dead after they were later infected with Sars in the wild.
Responded to this a while ago. You are presumably referring to Tseng et al., Immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccines leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with the SARS virus, PLoS One 2012. The study found the vaccines being studied provided antibody protection to SARS-CoV-1, but also led to the occurrence of eosinophilia; 1) The animals didn't die due to the vaccine or when challenged with SARS-CoV-1, but survived with no noticeable signs of illness; 2) The vaccine wasn't based on mRNA.
...two women will earn a college degree for every man.
I wish I had had two women earning my degree for me, while I was back in my room sleeping. Or maybe one earning the degree and one back in my room with me, keeping me from sleeping.