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Friday, June 25. 2021

Why is this song great?

Are there Youtube people who do this sort of thing for adult music?





Posted by Bird Dog in Music at 14:05 | Comments (20) | Trackbacks (0)

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Well Rick told you in the video — David Gilmour is a genius guitar player and this solo widely respected as one of the greatest in rock history.

If you don’t like it and just want to complain, why post it?
#1 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2021-06-25 16:09 (Reply)
Absolutely mind-blowing performance: David Gilmour, Comfortably Numb, Pulse concert.

Rick Beato is an incredibly knowledgeable, enthusiastic, and entertaining commentator on all things music (mostly jazz, metal, and rock). I highly recommend subscribing to his YouTube channel if you have any interest in music at all.
#2 RJP on 2021-06-25 16:23 (Reply)
100% — I have learned a lot about arranging, production, and the subtleties of the creative process, all in an entertaining way, and he’s likable too. All for “free” (yes I know YouTube monetizes my info).
#2.1 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2021-06-25 17:41 (Reply)
The sad thing I learned from this is that Rick is younger than I am.
#2.1.1 Jerryskids on 2021-06-26 00:39 (Reply)
You probably won't ever get to hear Gilmor play this live but there's a guitarist in a local band (endorsed by Pink Floyd) in Wellington NZ that does a "Pink Floyd Experience" show who sounds just as good. We are so lucky there are excellent alternatives out there.
#3 Brown on 2021-06-25 18:20 (Reply)
Was that meant to be a slam against Pink Floyd's The Wall? Seriously? To each his own, I guess.

This kind of snobbery and gratuitous snideness comes from several different kinds of places. Not sure which yours is. But not very many of them are valid, and none of them are kind.
#4 ruralcounsel on 2021-06-26 07:45 (Reply)
Ackshually. Beato did a piece on what made Bach great, so there's that in his favor. Plus Beato is a legitimate musician and former producer. And for the bonus points, he has posted a number of videos criticizing contemporary pop "music." I watch his videos as a means of escape from the otherwise deadly monotony of SJW bullshit encountered nearly everywhere else in our "media." (Present company excepted, of course.)
#5 Steve on 2021-06-26 07:54 (Reply)
I was rather shocked to hear this guy is my age. He easily looks 10 years older, but we both graduated at the same time.

On the other hand, "Comfortably Numb" is one of my all time favorite songs, and I found this to be really entertaining. I literally know nothing about music and how it is constructed, but this was a good way to learn about the details. I sit and wonder, as a non-musician, how much is sitting and thinking of which chords and notes go together, and how much is just playing until you get a sound you like, or mixing various sounds in the studio until you get a sound you like?

Seems like there's a bit of all that, but mostly trial and error of playing.

The follow up would be how much of the beauty of a song comes in the editing? Bach, Mozart, etc. had no editing studios to assist them, they had to work it all out in their head, then play it to see how it sounded. So many great songs today have a difficult time being replicated live. On the other hand, that is what makes the live experience unique, and allows bands like Dead & Co, Allman Bros., and Phish interesting - each live event is an experience unto itself.

That's the art. That's what makes it fun and enjoyable.
#6 Bulldog (Link) on 2021-06-26 09:17 (Reply)
In this video about Paul Simon, Rick talks about J.S. Bach for two solid minutes and shows encyclopedic knowledge of his life and works and his place in history. https://youtu.be/qoHC8K7mj9c

For those who require a nod to “adult music” to feel superior or something.
#7 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2021-06-26 09:35 (Reply)
I've watched most of the Rick Beato videos. The man is incredibly knowledgeable and entertaining. He's proficient with several instruments and can reproduce nearly any riff competently in order to make a point about how it's constructed. He's also got great software that allows him to isolate any track or combination of tracks to call attention to a background riff. He understands both the chord structure of a song and the art of constructing an interesting tune, time signature, rhythm accompaniment, and vocal style. Best of all, he can speak intelligibly in full sentences and construct a coherent argument. It must have been a pleasure to work with him as a producer; his respect for creativity and skill in a musical artist is palpable.
#8 Texan99 on 2021-06-26 09:52 (Reply)
Had the privilege of seeing Floyd live at Foxboro Stadium in 1994. It was something else.
#9 Maniac on 2021-06-26 10:27 (Reply)
Are there Youtube people who do this sort of thing for adult music?
I listen almost exclusively to classical music but would never say something so elitist and ignorant (sorry, you started it). Are you comparing Comfortably Numb to the Farmer in the Dell? Could you produce something like this? Do you appreciate music for music's sake or do you just just virtue signal?
#10 Talnik on 2021-06-26 13:48 (Reply)
Jeez, lighten up, Francises!
I'd love to find someone like Rick Beato doing classical music. Maybe something from Great Courses...?
#11 SteveS on 2021-06-27 00:11 (Reply)
I've often tried Great Courses offerings on classical music, but they didn't seem to have much to offer. It really would be wonderful if one of their lecturers had Beato's gifts.
#11.1 Texan99 on 2021-06-30 09:15 (Reply)
That's the whole point, SteveS. Instead of asking if someone did this for classical music as you did (or hip hop, or whatever music Bird Dog considers adult), he chose to belittle the artists' work.
#12 Talnik on 2021-06-27 08:59 (Reply)
Interesting.

I didn't see it as "belittling" and I love Comfortably Numb.

As far as I'm concerned, and I spoke about this with my wife, this is the music of my youth, making it "young person's" music. Now that I'm an adult doesn't make it adult music. The reason I enjoy it is because I was young and it appealed to me, and it's stayed with me.

As a kid, I couldn't stand classical music. To a degree, I still struggle with it. It's not that I dislike it, I've gone to many concerts. It's just not what I listen to regularly.

I didn't see this as a put down in any way. I'm actually surprised so many people did. Today, when I hear music my kids listen to, I call it 'kids music' even though much of it is stuff my wife likes.

I often chide my boys to listen to 'real' music. Mainly as a joke, since they do listen to, and enjoy, most of the stuff I like. We've gone to several concerts as a family. Roger Waters, for example (who, I'd add, I'll never see again because it was the most overtly political concert I ever went to which ruined the art), and Dead & Co.

I'm fine with this description.
#12.1 Bulldog on 2021-06-27 10:08 (Reply)
Not surprised about Waters. He's overtly political as a default position, and it's tiresome even when one agrees with him on a particular point. Stephen Stills went on a few diatribes when I saw him while "W" was in office. Part of the reason to go to a concert and enjoy a night out is to get away from the day-to-day grind of politics and other tedious drama. I think it's inherently disrespectful and does ruin the art.

The Who (seen them or Daltrey several times over the years) engage the audience quite a lot during the shows but have refrained from politics in my experience.

Anyway, fun discussions.
#12.1.1 anon on 2021-06-27 12:22 (Reply)
LOL this is priceless, just 3-4 days ago Rick Beato comes out with a video about the most complex pop song he’s ever played, filled with outrageious key changes and jazz chords, see if this is “adult” enough for you. https://youtu.be/5-gF-tmblA8
#13 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2021-06-27 15:13 (Reply)
I listen to plenty of jazz that is far more complex than “Comfortably Numb” but I would never categorize any of it as “adult” vs. “kids”. That’s a very odd way to look at music.

A well-executed piece of music is a well-executed piece of music no matter how “high” or “low” it aims — I try to just recognize creative achievement for what it is and tries to do, thankful that people do this for a living and contribute these gifts to make our lives a little bit better.
#14 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2021-06-27 15:53 (Reply)
Yes, there are YouTubers who explain theory, production, and history for many genres of music. Don’t adults know how to use search engines? ;-)

Other than Beato, I like these:

Polyphonic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUFiKSmqivo

12Tone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-ehoBvAepo
#15 foxmarks on 2021-06-28 15:23 (Reply)

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