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Saturday, November 28. 2020

Saturday morning links

 Kurt Russell wrote a 200-page backstory on Santa for Netflix's 'The Christmas Chronicles 2'


 A Thanksgiving Toast To The Old Breed by Victor Davis Hanson


 Desperation and the Quest for Control: The Dangers of Alternative Medicine


 Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has 'Relatively No Effect on Deaths' in U.S.


A censored study 


Some Constitutional issues with public health 


Isn't the underlying issue that almost anything can be termed a public health issue?


' Hillbilly Elegy' effectively addresses the crisis of modernity


 Gretchen Whitmer Pops Out Of Turkey To Inform Family They Have Exceeded Maximum Number Of Guests


 MORE EVIDENCE THAT LIBERALS HATE AMERICA


 John Hayward on our loathsome elites 


Portland protesters topple statues of Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln (video)


 Barack Obama Forgets That He Put Immigrants in Cages, Attacks Trump Over Policy



Brace Yourself, New York. With legislative supermajorities in Albany, Democrats look poised to push the state even further leftward.


 "Don't Talk to Me That Way": Trump Unleashes on Liberal Reporter


 Infographic: The 4-Year-Long Campaign Against Trump


  Top Iranian Nuclear Weapons Scientist Who Was Singled Out By Netanyahu In 2018 Assassinated


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"A Horrifying Future" - WEF's Vision For A Post-COVID World

QUOTE:
The World Economic Forum (WEF) has just published (October 2020) a so-called White Paper, entitled “Resetting the Future of Work Agenda – in a Post-Covid World”.

Please do not call this a conspiracy theory. It is a White Paper, an “authoritative report” by the WEF.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/horrifying-future-wefs-vision-post-covid-world
#1 feeblemind on 2020-11-28 09:38 (Reply)
More here: https://stoppingsocialism.com/category/great-reset/

The Heartland Institute has been all over this for months.

And, what a coincidence that this year’s lockdowns and fear porn promote abuse of power by authoritarians and tyrants, social division due to the politicization of a virus and “social distancing” (physical distancing is more accurate and less emotionally impactful terminology) plus the destruction of capitalism, religion, and freedom in all forms!

“But that Trump guy, I don’t like his tweets!” ... okay, well, say hi to your new unelected and unaccountable bosses from the World Economic Forum. Don’t be stuck on stupid.
#1.1 Jeff Brokaw (Link) on 2020-11-28 10:40 (Reply)
I've held for some time that language manipulation
was the game when choosing "Health Care Reform" over the, imo, more accurate "Health Insurance Reform.

Likewise in Spygate, calling the Obama Administration's illegal actions against Flynn, Trump, Chief Justice Roberts and many others "Wiretapping", instead of "Aggressive, Illegal Digital Surveillance" gave the game away.
#1.1.1 B on 2020-11-28 13:33 (Reply)
Could all the New Yorkers continuing to move to Florida please leave your attitude at the border. Don't infest Florida with more of what you are fleeing. Thanks and welcome.
#2 grant1863 on 2020-11-28 09:44 (Reply)
Unfortunately, New Yorkers (and Californians) fleeing only the latest bad policies are showing by the fact that they are only now fleeing just exactly what their tolerance for bad policies is, and it's much higher than what normal people could be expected to tolerate. They all claim "Oh, I'm not like those people" but, up until last week, yes, yes you were those people. Just because you'll tolerate Venezuela but you won't tolerate North Korea doesn't make you some kind of freedom-lover.
#2.1 Jerryskids on 2020-11-28 11:25 (Reply)
Get Ready for the War on Meat

QUOTE:
It is no secret that many elites at international organizations have an aversion toward meat. In fact, institutions like the United Nations have called for the reduction of meat consumption on the grounds of environmental sustainability and health concerns.

And like any good globalist institution, they believe in using government force, in this case, taxation, to curb meat consumption.

But bureaucrats and their vegan foot soldiers are not alone. Groups like the Farm Animal Investment Risk and Return (FAIRR), an investment initiative network that monitors factory farms, has thrown its hat into the ring by pushing for meat taxation. This group is no roughshod, grassroots operation; it’s backed by investors that preside over roughly $4 trillion in assets.

The recent meat tax discussions show a paradigm shift in the issue where politicians, bureaucrats, nutritionists, and even powerful financial interests are actively flirting with the idea of using state power to discourage meat consumption.

It’s only a matter of time before governments around the world start implementing meat taxes, adding to the ever-growing list of taxes that citizens must endure.

It's about Control

Taking a page from their environmentalist ilk, vegans constantly rely on alarmist tactics to advance their cause.

. . . . veganism has taken a page out of the global warming playbook by lending itself as a vehicle for increased state centralization and control over the private affairs of peaceful citizens.

https://mises.org/wire/get-ready-war-meat
#3 feeblemind on 2020-11-28 09:53 (Reply)
Gretchen Whitmer Pops Out Of Turkey To Inform Family They Have Exceeded Maximum Number Of Guests: The BEE is always on target with a loooooooooooooooong and shaaaaaaaaaarp stinger.

More Evidence That Liberals Hate America: Not that we NEED more...

Barack Obama Forgets That He Put Immigrants in Cages, Attacks Trump Over Policy. Barack: There's no THERE, there, in Barack. Just "attitude".

Brace Yourself, New York: Smart, intelligent people who can work anywhere, should leave the state.
#4 Sam L. on 2020-11-28 10:07 (Reply)
Re: [b]Loathsome Eltes[b]

" A final collapse of the hampered economy simply cannot be avoided, only deferred...it will be the realisation that currency debasement must continue to prevent widespread bankruptcies of unproductive, labour intensive businesses that finally awakens the general public to the likely collapse of its government’s money."
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/11/alasdair-macleod/global-inflation-watch/

The U.S. government uses two types of policies—monetary policy and fiscal policy—to influence economic performance. Both have the same purpose: to help the economy achieve growth, full employment, and price stability. https://saylordotorg.github.io/text_exploring-business-v2.0/s05-07-government-s-role-in-managing-.html

[b]Here we have the laughable argument that a bunch of thieves who steal half of GDP are "managing" the economy.[/b[
#5 Ron Lieberman on 2020-11-28 10:09 (Reply)
The obvious fraud in the last election is sad, infuriating, and scary enough but a culture that allows a study from a significant medical institution to be censored, that allows the news media to demonize a treatment for a disease, with no evidence, that could have reduced hospitalizations by 84%, that allows the censoring of evidence of voter fraud, and that allows violence in the streets while also calling for the defunding of the police is far more dangerous.

Remember the three boxes (ballot, soap, and cartridge). If you can no longer use the first two, it’s time to use the third.
#6 mudbug on 2020-11-28 10:44 (Reply)
Public health and the constitution:
I think the biggest problem that the government has is most of what they have done in response to Covid turned out to be wrong. If the masks and 6 feet and shutting down small business actually worked I think that a majority of Americans would have supported all of it. But those draconian measures did not work and seemingly, if you follow the science, cannot work.

Also as free people the role of the government should be to give the citizens good advice and allow us to decide what seems appropriate for each of us. It actually makes perfect sense for young people to choose to work rather than stay at home and starve to death. It actually makes good sense for older citizens to choose to limit their exposure.

One of the factors that makes this government over reach worse is the disproportionate way their advice affected us. If you owned or worked at a small business you were bankrupted. If on the other hand you worked for government or were a school teacher you got 6 months vacation with full pay and in some cases even were better off financially. The government should not be able to do this. If they make edicts that end income for a large percentage of people they too must lose all pay and benefits as well. I would even be in favor of making this retroactive and demanding that they repay this to the taxpayers.
#7 OneGuy on 2020-11-28 11:01 (Reply)
The story on the dangers of alternative medicine is a poignant one - but I think it's missing something. I'm not a big believer in alternative medicine - it has no business replacing modern medical treatment or surgeries for specific diagnoses. But this story also makes no even-handed mention of the placebo effect, and of other known medical phenomenon that doctors cannot explain.

All such articles are like this: They seek to demolish holistic health without exploring why placebo effects work. Science cannot improve what it cannot measure, therefore it ignores observed events it cannot explain - that is science's weak point, where faith takes over. That is something that needs a lot more study.
#8 Aggie on 2020-11-28 11:04 (Reply)
"More evidence that liberals hate America"

The simple truth is that these people are not "liberals" they are anarchists. And anarchists do indeed hate America, motherhood and apple pie. In fact they hate almost everything including other anarchists.

The mistake is in treating as though they have some right or reason to do what they do. We should ignore them and what they say and prosecute them whenever they break the law. You cannot 'fix' them and you certainly should not accommodate them or allow them to get away with their crimes as this only encourages them.
#9 Saul on 2020-11-28 11:12 (Reply)
QUOTE:
"Sotomayor was having none of it.“Justices of this Court play a deadly game in second guessing the expert judgment of health officials about the environments in which a contagious virus, now infecting a million Americans each week, spreads most easily....”


...expert judgment of health officials...

Any questions? Protest with Heaving Mob, Good:Churches Bad. Antifa's CHAZ, Good:Close Restaurants & Schools, Bad. Move contagious patients into nursing homes, Good. Rope off sections of large department stores as 'nonessential goods'. Wear your mask when you visit the Restroom, walking past all those people with no mask. Yes. Expert Judgment.
#10 Aggie on 2020-11-28 11:16 (Reply)
Someone needs to question the expert judgement of health officials.

The problem is that they are reacting to the political side of the pandemic. “This is one of the worst catastrophes in the world I can’t talk ladies and gentlemen… I — I can hardly breathe. I — I’m gonna step inside where I cannot see it.”

The reaction is not rational it is a reaction not a plan or scientific.
#10.1 Anon on 2020-11-28 13:45 (Reply)
re Johns Hopkins Study Saying COVID-19 Has 'Relatively No Effect on Deaths' in U.S.

FWIW:

An attorney for Alliance, which is a large insurance company, says the re-insurance firms have not been raising their rates on life insurance, indicating that their actuaries had not seen or did not predict an overall death increase due to Covid.

I can't source this because it comes from private email.
#11 feeblemind on 2020-11-28 11:58 (Reply)
It's funny that Sotomayor would say that since second-guessing is precisely the role and the function of the Supreme Court. Odd that she doesn't seem to have a problem second-guessing legislators and administrators and lower court justices all day long.
#12 Jerryskids on 2020-11-28 12:00 (Reply)
Re the Johns Hopkins study.
You might find this interesting.
https://swprs.org/why-covid-19-is-a-strange-pandemic/
#13 Ray on 2020-11-28 12:19 (Reply)
The Christmas Chronicles was a surprisingly good movie. I look forward to watching the second one with my children.
#14 Jack Walter on 2020-11-28 13:19 (Reply)
Many of these bloggers were well-educated professionals: office administrators, nurses, psychiatrists, professors, and teachers.

Read the alternative medicine article. I'd say mis-educated, not well educated.

Is there a a place for alternative medicine? Well- depends on what you define alternative as. I practice nasal irrigation. No doctor ever told me to do it. No medically trained health practitioner told me to do it. None of those ever told me about it. Heard about it from an acquaintance of mine. Who was doing it to great success. Used the powers of the internet to look up information on it. Pre-internet days- that would have been an unfruitful task. So- I started. And haven't taken an antihistamine in over a decade. I've had fewer colds- and suffer less through them- increasing frequency of rinsing from once to 2-3 times daily. Haven't had more than 3 days of symptoms. I still manage to get a sinus infection every so often. Better than once or twice a year.

But magnetic therapy? Crystal healing? Nope and nope. No evidence they work, no reasonable explanation why they should.

Micronutrients? Ah- which ones and for what conditions? We know adequate levels of vitamin lead lead to less serious cases of all kinds of URIs. It's well studied. Yet, the medical profession doesn't routinely test people for Vitamin D levels and warns of the DANGERS! of taking too much vitamin D and getting Vitamin D intoxication. A real thing, but actually hard to do at standard supplement levels. Is taking Vitamin D alternative medicine? (I do.)

Calcium supplements are a waste of money we're told. My better half has been taking them (at my insistence) since we married. Her 3 sisters were all diagnosed with osteoporosis in their 50s. After the first was- all were tested. Her bone density was above the diagnosis level. Not by much- but above it. Still is at 63. Did she luck out? Or did it turn out they aren't a waste of money?

I don't blame people with cancer or other deadly diseases for looking around for a cure. But when looking, they should be looking for evidence that it works, and reasons why it should. Red flag if you're missing either.
#15 Gospace (Link) on 2020-11-28 16:59 (Reply)
Whether a patient chooses traditional or alternative medicine should be up to him. Why should I get to choose for him, unless he's reached the point of having a court-appointed guardian? The only constraint should be his ability to find and pay for someone to supply the treatment. After that, if we think we can prove fraud, go for it.

I like the idea of institutions that build up their credibility by endorsing or refusing to endorse treatments, allowing consumers to decide whether to go with the 5-star stuff or not. I don't even mind if insurers refuse to pay for anything that's not 4 stars or above, whatever they think makes sense, as long as it's transparent.
#15.1 Texan99 on 2020-11-29 08:58 (Reply)
I totally agree but it begs the question. You should be able to decide what health care and doctor is right for you. BUT no one should be allowed to run medical scams tricking people out money and in some cases causing death and bodily harm. THOSE are the people we should be prosecuting and putting in jail. Our government should have an active agency to root out and punish these charlatans.
#15.1.1 OneGuy on 2020-11-29 10:40 (Reply)
The last time I saw a specialist, he wanted to do a procedure that I preferred to decline. "You're the Boss" he said. It was the second time he had said it to me and it left me a little exasperated. "I'm the Boss, butyou're the Expert!" is what I replied.

I want a medical professional to tell me why they are making a recommendation. They usually will, but only if you press them. I also want them to advise me about things they have seen work, but don't know why. There is more of this that happens than you might think. I don't care if they can't explain it - I care if it works. I think that's Gospace's point, and it was mine, too. Modern medical science, like every other specialized endeavor, tends to disregard what it cannot process. And there are gatekeepers within allopathic medicine that are sometimes too eager to confine the discussion to safely defensible ground - just like everywhere else.

It comes down to being a good consumer, which is to say, both curious and insistent when it comes to deciding what you want and asserting your right to get it.
#15.1.2 Aggie on 2020-11-29 10:54 (Reply)

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