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Thursday, August 6. 2020Woke Math in Seattleh/t, American Digest's In China they’re doing advanced calculus. Here our mentally deficient are arguing about 2+2. Well, my thought is that, since 50% of Americans shockingly have below-average IQs, numbers are not for everybody. Most people can at least learn trig, though, if not the abstractions of calc. I was always a math "learner" until the light went on. Trackbacks
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re In China they’re doing advanced calculus. Here our mentally deficient are arguing about 2+2.
That's likely true. Spengler has argued for years that because every Chinese child learns to play western classical music on the piano and because China graduates umpteen hundred thousand engineers every year, that they will bury us. To that I have just two questions. If that's all true, why does China steal our intellectual property like there is no tomorrow? Why haven't their legions of mathematicians and engineers created enough technology to leave us in the dust us years ago? My thinking is that China has no chance to ever catch us unless, they either open their society to the exchange of free thinking and ideas or unless we close ours. The latter looks distressingly likely at this point. You can't innovate when free thought is discouraged and punished. Just look at the old Soviet Union. On top of that, it's not just having the guys and gals with the letters after their names. You also have to have all the technicians and production specialists, machinists and electricians, and so on to build out the projects. Edison wouldn't have gotten near as far if he didn't have a talented team working with him.
Yes. Very True.
And VDH says we are critically lacking such people. He says that while we do still lead the world in innovation, we lack the second tier engineers, the ones who can transform the research into industrial output. VDH goes on to say that's a real problem for bringing industries home from China. I did not know that. Victor Davis Hanson | Trump, China and Black Lives Matter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zT7CrEoqoSU hour video "Well, my thought is that, since 50% of Americans shockingly have below-average IQs"
Is the inability to know the difference between Average and Median the reason for your name? In large symmetrical distributions average and median converge.
"In large symmetrical distributions average and median converge."
What makes you think IQ dist is symmetrical? I know several people above 150. Below 50 not so much. Bill E, Point taken, but how much time do you spend in institutions caring for people with IQs below 50?
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Regardless of how high (or low) a nation's average IQ may be, by definition (bell curve) half will be below average. Not surprising.
Is that "Who is a Mathematician" sheet proposed, or actually in use outside a university?
I can easily imagine an education major trying to insert this in her curriculum, but for it to be used system-wide in a district says something terrible about the sanity of the administration--and the voters. Education majors are traditionally among the lower-IQ (*) students in a college--down there with journalism majors--so perhaps they think of it as magic, and take refuge from its fearful austerity by invoking magic incantations of their own. (*) using the SAT/ACT as a proxy I worked at a university for years, and I have to agree about education majors. I would dearly love to see universities dump their colleges of education and require people who want to be teachers to earn a certification in a chosen field instead of the catch-all "education", which is just a cash cow crammed with courses on theories and, dare I say it, "all the feelz".
Education majors are traditionally among the lower-IQ (*) students in a college---down there with journalism majors--(*) using the SAT/ACT as a proxy.
For teachers passing the Praxis teacher certification tests, their SAT scores compared to other college graduates are not quite what you claim. The Educational Testing Service report, Teacher Quality in a Changing Policy Landscape: Improvements in the Teacher Pool,compared the SAT scores of those who passed the Praxis tests for teacher certification with the average SAT scores of other college graduates. Elementary, special ed and phys ed teachers have SATs below the average college grad- fitting your stereotype- but teachers certified in other subjects have average to above average SATs that apply to the subjects they teach. We find from Figure 20 that for all college graduates who took the SAT-Verbal, the average score was 543. Teachers in the following specialties had an average score below the average SAT Verbal of 543: Physical Education, Special Education, and Elementary Education(517). Teachers in the following specialties scored above the average SAT Verbal of 543:Art & Music, Mathematics, Social Studies, Foreign Languages, Science, and English, in order of increasing scores. Reading from the bar graph, I would estimate that certified English teachers averaged 573 on the SAT-Verbal. No, not top-of-the-line, but far from bottom of the barrel, and above the average college graduate. We find from Figure 21 that for all college graduates who took the SAT-Math, the average score was 542. Teachers in the following specialties had an average score below the average SAT-Math of 542: Physical Education, Special Education, Elementary Education(510),Art & Music,English, Social Studies, and Foreign Languages, in order of increasing scores. We are not particularly concerned about Math SAT scores for English or Social studies teachers. For teaching specialties where math skills are important, Science (570) and Math ( 595) teachers scored above the 542 SAT-Math that college graduates averaged. (I am estimating from a bar graph) Not bottom-of-the-barrel, but instead above average. Figures 20 and 21 SAT Verbal Scores by Licensing Area for Those Passing Praxis Tests (20) and SAT Math Scores by Licensing Area for Those Passing Praxis Tests (21) Page 22, for 2002-2005. I stand corrected. The info I had was from my college days; I should have checked. Thank you.
There has been an effort in the last 20 years to make certification exams more difficult, making the dumbass stereotype less true in recent years.
If you look at amount of time studied to achieve a 3.5 or higher GPA, Ed School majors probably study the least amount of hours. Back in the day when college students had to work to get a good GPA, Ed School students really stood out for high GPA and low amount of time studying. But these days, a lot of college courses are guaranteed As, so the rest of the campus is getting to resemble the Ed School. From my experience teaching school for 2 years, being bright helps, but is far from sufficient to be a good teacher. Put it this way: good salesmen and good teachers have a lot in common. Both need to know their product/subject. Both need to be able to persuade the customer/student that it is to their advantage to purchase/study. Persuading 7tb or 8th graders doesn't come easily for everyone. It didn't for me. I confess to being woefully innumerate, partly because of my somewhat rootless childhood, and partly because I just don't have that particular talent. But even I know that math is objective truth, and has bugger all to do with "oppression" (except for me, when I have to do something mathematical).
From the Feb. '96 Reader's Digest:
1960s arithmetic test: "A logger cuts and sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is four-fifths of that amount. What is his profit?" '70s new-math test: "A logger exchanges a set (L) of lumber for a set (M) of money. The cardinality of Set M is 100. The set C of production costs contains 20 fewer points. What is the cardinality of Set P of profits?" '80s "dumbed-down" version: "A logger cuts and sells a truckload of lumber for $100. Her cost is $80, her profit is $20. Find and circle the number 20." '90s version: "An unenlightened logger cuts down a beautiful stand of 100 trees in order to make a $20 profit. Write an essay explaining how you feel about this as a way to make money. Topic for discussion: How did the forest birds and squirrels feel?" The 90's version is a bit optimistic. "Write an essay?"
The reason that the public schools refuse to teach math in any meaningful way is that kids would use math to measure things. And then they would have some opinions about the relative value of different things. But kids aren't allowed to have any opinions, so the school confuses the information as much as possible. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vo1x1Mq4A9f9umUkSsBfEfrs2JgWxLgy/view?usp=sharing
Brought to us by those loving communist girls, and old people who just want everyone to be happy. So in the future, kids won't need to decide what anything is worth. The government will decide that. Old people are worth millions of dollars each. Remember: they are no different than anyone else. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0q9eh68mE3Eb2Vic3pwOHJLeFE/view?usp=sharing Actually, they're better. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kMwDGVRVprM1ETQaY2-u9106fTSB9HJ8/view?usp=sharing And if your're home schooling, don't look for explanations about the different kinds of math on Google. It's been scrubbed. [url]https://www.google.com/search?q=%22what+are+the+different+kinds+of+math%3F%22&oq=%22what+are+the+different+kinds+of+math%3F%22&aqs=chrome..69i57.17647j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0q9eh68mE3EMDBCMFJPSW9adFlpZjVjUjNQRUxDcFhGNFhB/view?usp=sharing If the people who wrote this ran the world, civilization would collapse the first time a toilet didn’t flush.
Without math the toilet would flush properly. Who says an answer is right, well if the bridge collapses because the math is wrong, it was not the right answer. Lives are at stake when we say math is subjective.
If you think 2 + 2 can equal 5 you are going to have a hell of a time putting a basketball team on the court.
Math is so not racist that it isn't even a rational question. No matter if the teacher likes you and whatever color you are or how many tats you have, if you get the right answer it is right. In the classroom, the teacher is the boss but is not oppressing you. If they do their job well you come out knowing stuff. This obsession with oppression is a sickness.
". . .since 50% of Americans shockingly have below-average IQs . . ."
Yet another shocking example of acceptable discrimination. That's basically a riff on an old George Carlin line: "Think how stupid the average American is, then realize that 50% of them are stupider than that."
The only way I can think of in which this idea remotely touches reality is if the authors are conflating mathematics with the use of mathematics.
I'll grant--no, I insist--that misuse of mathematical models can cause problems. But that document smells of envy. A physicist, a biologist and a mathematician are sitting in a street café watching people entering and leaving the house on the other side of the street. First they see two people entering the house. Time passes. After a while they notice three people leaving the house. The physicist says, "The measurement wasn't accurate." The biologist says, "They must have reproduced." The mathematician says, "If one more person enters the house then it will be empty." There are indeed some people who think 2+2 should be whatever they want it to be and to tell them that they are wrong is because of who they are and not some intrinsic truth about math. My advice is be afraid, very afraid of people who say these things and believe these things. They are dangerous, they are seeking power and they have demonstrated by their words that they are imbeciles.
Isn't "2+2=5 if The Party says so" what Big 666 told Winston Smith in 1984?
Please, please, please do not let any of these people design a suspension bridge.
Second that. Do you want one to be your anesthesiologist? Calculate the the right dosage for your body weight? Regulate gas flow while you are under?
I'm more concerned about the ones who attend medical school.
When a bridge fails, it's obvious. When a doctor fails...not so much. It is no surprise to find out that people who think math is racist also can’t write competently. The “guidelines” contain two subject/verb disagreement errors and five capitalization errors. (“Mathematician” is capitalized but “mathematicians” is not?
I’m sorry it took me three tries to catch all of my own errors.
It is no surprise to find out that people who think math is racist also can’t write competently. The “guidelines” contain two subject/verb disagreement errors and five capitalization errors. (“Mathematician” is capitalized but “mathematicians” is not?)
It is no surprise to find out that people who think math is racist also can’t write competently. The “guidelines” contain two subject/verb agreement errors and five capitalization errors. (“Mathematician” is capitalized but “mathematicians” is not?)
A is A.
That is what math is based on. That’s what everything is based on. Some are willing to accept this truth and live by it. Some are not. Those who are not prefer the premise “A is whatever I say it is” Those need the others to feed them or they would starve. They are parasites. Democracy understood as “one man, one vote” allows a majority of fools and ignorants and parasites to rule the minority and force the minority to feed all the rest. To perfect that con job the wokeraty seek a better system than “one man, one vote” democracy and they find it in feudalism. Feudalism not much different than that of the medieval Dark Ages the woe of which, by the way, brought about the United States of America. The parasites want to turn things back around and to devolve America into a new Dark Ages so they can rule it all as the feudal wokeraty nomenklatura. We are already in a civil war and they have begun to shoot. As the useless cowards they are, they are not very effective at it but they compensate it by already owning 90% of the cultural and governmental mores all around us, Long March Through the Institutions and all. And our inaction only emboldens them. Soon they’ll want more, much more and much faster. Why wouldn’t they? They look at the rest of us like the giant who won’t fight you no matter what you do to him. Sooner or later we will have to decide who is going to win because they can only win if we surrender without fighting. |