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Saturday, March 21. 2020
I have not the faintest idea what the ordinary Chinese person on the street would say, if speaking truthfully. I know it is a different culture with different rules, and certainly without Western values and morals. As I may misunderstand it, a culture without the Western ideal of the individual except for those in power.
I am in favor of decoupling from the China behemoth. That means you too, Wallmart, and you too, Apple. And all of the pharma companies that manufacture there.
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I think decoupling just makes sense...not by next quarter, but a serious plan over time, with a well defined goal, not to be shared with them. Things might be different if they weren't commies, but they are...and while the commies are in charge, we can't trust them.
It is national security.
It's a no-brainer to say we should produce things critical to our survival here at home, but nobody seems to have any ideas about how that could be accomplished. Nobody (except the dems) wants to nationalize entire industries. The republicans want to give Big Pharma investment tax credits for building factories here. We have seen how that goes, though; The companies will accept the tax breaks, build the factories, then two years later, will move production offshore again. After all, they're in business to make money. Until I hear a better plan, I recommend steep tariffs on drugs and APIs. That will raise the price of drugs, though, and I have no idea how to deal with the uproar when Grandma's pills double in price.
Thought experiment: Ameripharm sells aspirin tablets for 6 cents, making a small profit. Pharmawuhan is subjected to a tariff that raises their unit price to 9 cents. New Ameripharm CFO Rod Rapem says, "Whoa! We can raise the price to 8 cents and still under cut China!" New Dem President Dodder Felonia says, "Whoa! Price control! National Guard! Sieg Heil!" (I meant dodder as in failing and feeble, not as in "noxious weed, but YMMV)
At bottom, the question is how much more would you pay for goods NOT made in Red China? If one must shake hands with the CCP, count your fingers after.
Well that mean mean trouble because where would HOBBY LOBBY get wiggle eyes and silk flowers and all that other China stuff with incredible markups so they can sell it for 1/2 OFF every day and still triple their cost of goods.
The Chinese people need to stop eating Bats, Dogs, Cats, embryonic birds, and anything else they come across that hasn't been a part of the human diet since the 1st century. Just cut that shit out!
I don't have a problem using them for cheap labor and cheap products. We need to find ways to stop importing certain things like food and medicine for our own safety and security. I'm generally against tariffs as an economic policy, but we can have different standards when dealing with China because they obviously pose threats to our security.
Importing their cheap products is not a problem though. I like having cheap products available. Trading with China is also the best way to bring about the collapse of their communist system.
What we really need to do is come together as a nation in educating our next generations on how China is an enemy, period. Regardless of your political beliefs and philosophies, every American should be united inknowing who our enemies are. Teach your children well.
Trading with China is also the best way to bring about the collapse of their communist system.
Thirty years on, this hasn't happened in China.
Nor has European and Canadian trading with Cuba changed anything in Cuba.
"Decoupling" from China is the nice way to say it. If only it were that simple. China is becoming a huge problem. First of all, there is Chinese population growth, and expansion into Africa; where they are not supposed to go. They want to send three hundred million Chinese to North Africa, and then bulldoze the forests. Next is the fact that they have invaded Tibet, and also claim to own Taiwan. To enforce those claims, they have placed surveillance cameras and secret police everywhere. It's a daily nightmare for the people. Next, they are destroying all of the world's oceans through over-fishing. And they won't stop. Next is the fact that they are-building up their military as fast as they can, in order to protect their fishing fleets, and to lay claim to new territory. Next is the fact that they don't want to "compete" with anybody. They want to internalize all foreign technology, and then monopolize it. They will bribe, extort, and kill to get industrial information. Nothing goes out, everything goes in. Next, they are trying to foment revolution in America by using black people and women as weapons. And there's also the question of Jewish complicity in all of this. Especially concerning Jewish females.
For all the above reasons, America can't simply "walk away" from China. We have a responsibility to our children, and to other people's children, not to allow evil to run rampant. That means completely destroying China. We can't negotiate with the Chinese, because communists don't negotiate in good faith. They are shameless liars. The only option is to reduce all of China to rubble. After twenty years, we can help the survivors with the difficult process of nation-building. They can create a new, much smaller China, which will hopefully serve its people.
It's like you're channelling Cato the Censor or someone: maybe Churchill?
End immigration. End and reverse H1B and related programs. Stop bringing in foreign students. Actively and aggressively begin identifying and deporting non citizens. Hire American and buy American.
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How wildlife trade is linked to coronavirus 9m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPpoJGYlW54
Holding China’s Communist Party Responsible for the Global Spread of Coronavirus—Maura Moynihan 58m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BJmhNT4lg4
I have found it difficult in recent years to find out if the goods I'm buying are manufactured in whole or in part in China. I was interested, because I concluded that a lot of things were breaking because they were manufactured poorly there. I'd pay a premium for an assurance of quality. I hope merchants will focus on this in future advertising. It does cost more to keep manufacturing at home, so you'd better give the customer an incentive.
I have long been concerned about the mass importation of Chinese meat. What you heard? Have you ever heard any comment about importing Chinese meat? MFers know how I feel about Seattle/Washington State their socialist ideology and their magnificent ports which import so much from China. A thoughtful news documentary report done several years ago revealed how important it was for Seattle to be BFF with China. They have had a Chinese Governor who went on to be Obama's Ambassador to China. I want to know how much of our pork comes in through the Seattle port? I am even doubtful that we have the capacity to produce the amount of chickens that we consume. Why oh why can we not demand to have each raw meat product stamped with the country it was raised and processed in? C'mon folks -- have you ever noticed how much pork product is on display at Costco, another Seattle based company, that evolved because of it's location and dependency on those shipping ports? Just get a bill through congress that mandates all of our meat products are packaged with the place of origin.
China buys a lot of food from the US. I don't think it goes the other way all that much.
Institute tariffs on ALL Chinese goods and keep raising the tariffs until a US manufacturer replaces the Chinese product. Saving transport costs, efficiency, and robotics along with Trump deregulation will mean replacement products that may be no more expensive than Chinese products. At the same time end ALL immigration and the working stiff as well as the coders will finally get wages in line with what they used to get before NAFTA and the immigration/illegal surge.