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Saturday, August 9. 2014Fish Chowda'If you grew up in Yankeeland, along the coast, clam and fish chowders have been one of your staples. They are seafood cooked with milk or cream, and whatever else. Real simple comfort food, served with hunks of good bread or those cute little Oyster Crackers. Everybody knows Clam Chowder, for which there are 54,612 different recipes (not including the revolting "Manhattan Clam Chowder" which is poisoned with tomato. A good Yankee Fish Chowder is very similar to clam chowder. One of the best ones I ever had was on Grand Manan Island, where the chunks were huge - quartered potatoes, big chunks of onion, and 4" square hunks of fresh Cod. The key for chowder is the stock: fish heads and bones, a few lobster shells are good, low-simmered for a couple of hours with some chopped onion and celery, pepper, etc. You do need to use the salt pork. The actual fish (like clams in clam chowder), you only add at the last minute and cook briefly - just until it flakes. Haddock or Cod are the only fish you can use. Scrod is just small Cod. Some use Monkfish, but I disagree: Monkfish is not a tasty fish, and it has a poor, chewy texture. Bacala - salt cod - works fine for any cod dish if it is handled properly. I prefer fresh. Here's a Maine recipe. Here's another version. Bermuda Fish Chowder bears no relationship to the Yankee version. It is from England, has no milk, but is wonderful in its own way. I have never tried to cook it, but have enjoyed in on countless occasions on lovely Bermuda. FYI, Bermuda Fish Chower's history here, and recipe here. Image: Atlantic Cod. Overfishing has been a major problem - the wonderful Atlantic Cod is in trouble, and has been for many years.
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Years ago when I was a kid. My father would take us all out to Innman Square, for a fish dinner. It was a small place , and also doubled as fish market. The food was the best, I should say the fish, because thats what was primarily served. Served on paper plates with plastic utensils, on picnic tables. Communal style, meaning sometimes you sat with strangers to accommodate for seating.On rainy or snowy nites saw dust was throwen on the floor to absorbe the wetness. What I remember the most was the fish chowda. It was to die for. Just fish, and lots of it, in a creamy broth. The name of that little hole in the wall restaraunt was Legal Seafood. I can still see George Berkowitz cutting fish for his customers. What I can't do is duplicate that fish chowda he served. I have tried many times over the years, but its not the same.
Off topic Dr Joy sorry. Luther and Meta it was so good to hear from the both of you. I miss your posts alot. I am sure alot of other folks do to. Luther you hit the nail on the head about the vitality of the comments. Meta, my love I am flattered that you put me in such esteemed company as Buddy, and Luther. I, like Luther must most graciously decline your amorous advance. I'm a Knight now, and have certain standards to live by . What they are I don't know, because Luther has not been sharin his wisdom with me. Go with your heart, Buddy is a real fine man. I was real worried about him. He must have spent alot of money on his daughters graduation party, cause he had to go back to work. Well I'm off my no eatin , and I won't vote for Obamaman. So if you guys still won't post, I'll just eat cake, cake, cake untill I explode. I was so close to my 177lbs
Damn Jappy... you can always share a fighting hole with me. You are a warrior. Tenacious and true.
See... the lessons are in your heart. You need no input from me or anyone. You're a fighter... tried and true. Thank you Luther. That was a very nice compliment. So am I going to start eatin cake, or what. The same goes for Meta Neo Lurker.
Years ago I lunched often at a place on 56th just west of 3rd in NYC. They had a superb Bermuda fish chowder that was accompanied by a snifter of Sherry to be added to taste. The Salad Nicoise was the perfect accompaniment.
Union Oyster House, The No Name, and Jimmy's Harborside were my cup of tea when it came to fish in my Beantown days. It was a sad day when Jimmy's folded; I loved the energy and unpretentious nature of the place, watching the fish pier and harbor traffic, aircraft coming and going at Logan, and, oh, by the way, the food was always delicious, every darn item on the menu!
I was never a Legal Seafoods fan nor Anthony's Pier 4; both trying too hard to go upmarket to be true blue Yankee seafood places. Barking Crab is ok, and Jasper White's Summer Shack I hear is quite good. Any other nominees for true blue Boston Yankee seafood emporiums?...the land of the bean and the cod. Where do the locals, ie., the non-expense account patrons, go these days? Green Mtn Punter, you are right about the retaurants you mentioned. I was talking about Legal Seafood ,way before they tried to upscale, mid 60s to early 70s. It was never the same after that.
I used to live in Nashua, NH and work across the street from Boston's North Station many moons ago. I found Legal Seafood to be a tourist trap. When any of my friends, family or co-works in other states would visit, they would all want to go the the overpriced place.
OT: But check out the Longfellow's Wayside Inn in W. Sudbury, MA for more traditional NE foods. - Indian Pudding there is worth the trip there alone. 1st date with the now Mrs D was at the No Name (counter) 30 yrs ago
Jappy, are you still located around Boston? Where do the locals go for down home seafood nowadays? I always took my guests to Jimmy's when giving the grand tour of Beantown- now I am "at sea" as to a waterfront alternative. No Name is fine, is there another? Locke-Ober's, you say? OK, if I know one of my guests will graciously pick up the tab. Cheapskate, you say?! I like to think of it as Yankee frugality, haha! I liked the recipes from Dr Joy Bliss- they sound like the genuine article, family recipes perhaps?
Green Mtn Punter, I live in Dover, Cow Hampshire, about 1and1/4hrs from Boston. I am down there every week end to care for my dad. Not in Boston, but a suburb of Boston. I'll try to find out whats hot. The city has changed so much. You are right about Dr Joy, good shrink, good looker, and seems to be a good cook. Has alot of dust bunnies in her home I think? : )
From childhood summers spent on the Jersey shore I can appreciate that strangely dangerous flavor that comes from mixing clam with tomato. I think you're missing a real treat if you limit your chowders to cream.
I had my first fish chowder at an Inn in Gloucester, MA on a very cold and snowing evening. Absolutely wonderful fish chowder and Inn. For the life of me I've never been able to remember the name of the place.
Google "waterzooi" for Dutch and Belgian ancestors of chowder - fish or chicken cooked in milk/cream.
You can cheat, as I did tonight, and make a decent substitute from leftover baked cod (nothing fancy done originally, just butter), some bacon, a few fresh onions, and some leftover corn-on-the-cob, and some more butter, with milk all cooked down quietly.
The fresh biscuits and green beans helped, of course! But clam and tomatoes? no. Usually, my heritage is evenly split between NYC/Boston, but there a line is drawn! Atlantic cod are in dire straits and needlessly so. We can bring them back to historic abundance just as we have the Pacific Salmon. Our ocean pasture restoration work in 2012 in the NE Pacific is now being credited with returning the largest abundance of salmon in all of history from Alaska to the Columbia river.
Restoring the ocean pastures of the Atlantic cod, salmon, and tuna will restore and revive those fish populations immeidately. http://russgeorge.net/2014/08/10/atlantic-cod-declining-even/ When I go back to boston I look for fried clams first and Farnhams in Essex is the place to go. I always go to Anthonys in Swamscott for a lobster roll for lunch. You can get good fried clams in a lot of restaurants but you can't get good lobster rolls everywhere.
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