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Friday, October 4. 2019A bit of a hassle, but worth doingOn the advice of Maggie's Farm, I managed to find some spare hours to get my REAL ID driver's license (which all legally in the US will need in 2020), my Pre-check TSA number (no lines, no undressing, etc), and, lo and behold, my Social Security Card. The TSA fingerprints you. In the process, remarkably, I found my original birth certificate. How and why I had that little antique document is beyond me. Stuffed mouldering in the back of some old drawer. Part of the hassle was getting a SS card. I haven't had one for decades, old one probably disintegrated. But you need one as part of the REAL ID process, which entails a fun visit to the SS office with all sorts of supporting stuff. I think I now have all the legal documents I need, including my Concealed Carry permit. All of these documents vet you out fairly well, it seems. The latter vets you through the police and the FBI. Should a REAL ID be required to vote? Trackbacks
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I'm getting my replacement SS card in the mail through the SS web page. (well, I haven't actually received it yet, should arrive in a couple of days)
"Should a REAL ID be required to vote?"
Something that you need to prove you are a citizen to get - not just a legal resident of the U.S., but an actual citizen - should be required to register to vote, at any rate. Here in Illinois I can get a REAL ID if I can produce a W-2, instead of my SS card. Answer: Yes, which is why so many states have opted for the phony ones on behalf of their illegal populations.
I predict that when this REAL-ID date arrives, several states will find a liberal judge to issue injunction. The airlines, without other options, will move to face recognition. I think the weird looking 'picture' on a real ID is your face on file somewhere in the halls of justice in DC. Just sitting there until those facial recognition cameras that can see food particles between your teeth are deployed.
The hardest part of the process for getting a global entry card was having to go to Vermont border entry to get it done. No appointments anywhere closer. So 3 hrs north, hour wait, 3 hours south. Full day. That may have changed in 2 years.
I agree with Ron - to vote one should have to produce something that demonstrates citizenship. I think it should be accepted that identity fraud is real, rampant and an obstacle to the fair functioning of our democracy. So - show your papers. As they say - if you need it to fly........ I had to show my birth certificate to get my TX driver's license renewed this year. Apparently the law requiring that was effective in September, 2018. I thought I had a copy of my birt certificate, but I didn't. So, I sent $20 to the town where I was born. Got it within 10 days, which is a good turnaround.
I just got mine and had to go through the same hassle. I haven't had a social security card since 1979 when my wallet was stolen in high school. The online replacement did not work for me either.
I would also recommend global entry. It seems like you are out of the country occasionally. I got mine at the same time I got Pre-Check. I don't travel internationally that much but it is really nice. We were on vacation recently and had a 12 hour return flight. Got back to JFK at midnight and the immigration line was huge. We sailed through in minutes with Global Entry. A bonus is that AMX will pay for it if you have Platinum. Yes - you should have to prove you are a citizen to vote. They should also be able to ask people if they are a citizen during the census. Hell, they want to know how many bathrooms you have and all sorts of other inane information. But, you can't ask about citizenship? That's crazy Funny story:
A couple of years ago a friend of mine was at the airport and realized he didn't have his drivers license. He did, however, have his concealed carry permit. He handed it to security. They balked at first - but then after consultation - decided that it was a state issued ID and let him through. I don't fly any more; the hassle just isn't worth it, and there's no place that I want to go. Somebody has to be dead or dying to get me on a plane.
But the last few times I've needed to fly, I've used my retired military ID card. It's a "RealID" by itself, even though California doesn't accept it to get the "RealID Driver's License". But even that wasn't all that difficult to get. If you're not retired military, get a passport; that's the "best" RealID. I had to produce my bona fides in last winter when my Texas driver's licence renewed. Which I did. I thought the lady on the other side of the counter was going to hug my neck, she was so happy. Apparently not very many people are actually reading the instructions in their renewal letter.
Used my passport. Got it in 5 minutes.
Yes proof of citizenship should be required to vote. In Colorado the B/C must be issued by a state or county. Mine was issued by a municipality, my wife also. We had to send away to get a state issued certified copy. Mine came in a couple of weeks, my wife not so much. Still waiting after 8 weeks. The State of NY told her the wait can be as much as 20 weeks. They've cashed the check btw. To get a passport a B/C issued by a municipality is acceptable. Colorado accepts a passport instead of a B/C, go figure.
To work inside an international airport required my passport, a 10 FBI background check, and fingerprinting. I have had 10 yr background checks for military clearances and also fingerprints before but really, how many 10 year background FBI checks does one need in a lifetime. I think I have had at least 4 by now. Some states, mine included, do not require real ID. You only need that to get on commercial aircraft.
I haven't been on an airplane since the early 80s owing to hassle, and this is just pre-hassle. I opted for the regular license last month.
My buddy didn’t have his SS card but did have his DD-214 with his SSAN on it. Not acceptable but a W-2 would be. You can buy blank W-2’s at Staples. Classic stupidity of the bureaucracy.
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