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Thursday, September 26. 2019

Male and female, masculine and feminine

Bell curve chart is from No One Is Born in ‘The Wrong Body’


Posted by Dr. Joy Bliss in Psychology, and Dr. Bliss at 16:01 | Comments (18) | Trackbacks (0)

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There are a lot of medical professionals that need to be stripped of their right to practice. Politicians that ban counseling for homosexual and gender confusion individuals need to reside behind bars. They are making political decision and not medical decisions and I suspect they enjoy the chaos they create.
#1 indyjonesouthere on 2019-09-26 19:57 (Reply)
Social chaos is not just a side effect of forcing transgender ideology on people, it’s the goal.

“The minority victim value index“

https://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-minority-victim-value-index.html?m=1
#1.1 Jm01 on 2019-09-27 11:52 (Reply)
Five years ago I saw a patient that told me he wanted to cut his hand off because the limb wasn’t really his. I sent him to psych. Explain to me the difference between this man and a man who tells me he’s really a woman not a man. Why am I supposed to have psych evaluate the first guy for mental illness but have to send the second to a transgender clinic where he’ll receive hormone therapy and a surgical consultation? Clinically no doc has been able to explain the difference to me. I have been accused of being a hater by several of my leftist colleagues however. Also why can I prescribe steroids to a “transgender” youth to alter his body but can’t prescribe hgh or anabolics to make a guy stronger? Why is one legal and morally necessary but the other a felony?
#2 Doc g on 2019-09-26 20:48 (Reply)
Remember, masculinity is toxic when it occurs in phenotypical males, but admirable in phenotypical females. So when you move a phenotypical male towards the masculine side of the continuum, you're doing harm, but when you do it to a phenotypical female, you're doing good.

Or something.

It's like the realization I had a couple of weeks ago. A news story was applauding a local organization for their work with girls. they listed a bunch of virtues they were trying to develop: strength, independence, self-reliance, confidence among others. It occurred to me that this list was virtually identical with what others were identifying as the hallmarks of "toxic" masculinity.
#2.1 Another guy named Dan on 2019-09-27 08:01 (Reply)
The argument is sound. There is a lot of variation in what it means to be male or female. The stereotype that we were straitjacketed in the past into narrow definitions of each sex is an oversimplification. Trying to look like the opposite sex was considered odd (or great comedy), but plenty of women liked sports and driving fast, plenty of men liked cooking or growing flowers. No one thought it was that strange. People chuckled and shrugged.
#3 Assistant Village Idiot on 2019-09-26 21:22 (Reply)
yet women have for decades been applauded for wearing trousers and even neck ties, but a man wearing s skirt is considered weird at best, more often unacceptable, in many places.

Heck, if I were to wear a kilt, a traditional male garment, to work I'd probably be fired on the spot for being "unprofessional", while a woman wearing jeans is ok.
#3.1 JTW on 2019-09-26 22:19 (Reply)
For a woman, seeming "mannish" is sometimes but by no means always shameful. For many if not most men, seeming "womanish" is shameful or at least ridiculous. Being a man who wants to be surgically altered into a woman must be an awfully rough ride in just about every way possible. I can scarcely understand how anyone survives it.
#3.1.1 Texan99 on 2019-09-27 08:03 (Reply)
Worked very well for Katherine Hepburn!

Her best acting was reserved for playing "hetero" opposite Spencer Tracy!
#3.1.1.1 Old Codger on 2019-09-27 17:52 (Reply)
Part of it is that we are in the oddly unique position of being encased in our bodies so that we don't ever really see how we present to the world. Our reference on all others is very different from our reference to ourself. We don't hear our voices the way others do, we don't see the back of our heads, our faces or how our clothes really fit and move, except through a strobe snap shot of a mirror or a short recording.

Part of it is also that we have no external reference for comparing our conciousnesses. The feel and sense of it to anyone else's. Unless your little voice is actively chattering about your gender then there's no reference point in the consciousness (soul if you prefer) that you can point to and describe to others as in any way gendered. The content of your thoughts, what you choose to fixate on, transient, insubstantial and ever changeable as the weather, can be culturally sorted and influenced. However, the space between thoughts of bare awareness, what your thoughts come from and dissolve into, that "feeling" of raw awareness, always in the background that doesn't change and is the master; can not be described in gendered terms. In eastern philosophy they congratulate you at this point (you have recognized the nature of maya, ego and one taste or suchness or things as they are) and tell you that you are on your way but they never tell you to deny physical reality. In the west we seem to have suddenly realized this inability to gender our raw conscious awareness and put it together with malleability of thoughts and embroidered more maya and fixation on top of it. Such is the nature of ego.
#3.2 Karen on 2019-09-27 09:36 (Reply)
The little dot on the left is Beto
#4 mike m on 2019-09-26 21:48 (Reply)
I know someone who is really both male and female; and I guarantee that no rational person would want to be in that person's ...er... shoes.

That was cheap, sorry. Almost.

Personally I have preferences; not phobias. But when I here trans this trans that, I just think of how dismissive, cruel and selfish some of these people are.
#5 SF Jeff on 2019-09-26 22:30 (Reply)
The current noise about trans-stuff is far out of proportion to their incidence in the population. There are genetic outliers- always have been, always will be. Some have made valued contributions to society. Example: Deirdre McCloskey. But to claim that in deference to some genetic outliers we need to radically change the pronouns we have used for hundreds of years, is absurd.
#5.1 Gringo on 2019-09-26 23:32 (Reply)
Tits, all I see is tits, a purple one and blue one.
#6 Fred Z on 2019-09-27 00:02 (Reply)
Nice knockers, to be sure, but the East German judge gave the cleavage a "4".
#6.1 Bill Carson on 2019-09-27 08:22 (Reply)
Um, yeah. Nice rack.

Guess you can tell which personality profile I fall into.
#7 I Am Who I Am on 2019-09-27 04:02 (Reply)
When you look at transgenderism through the lens as the victim becomes a lifelong customer of the medical community, it all begins to make sense.

And I'm sure the scheduling is even more rigorous than for someone with no or a minor medical problem.
Which feeds the victim's look at me condition.
#8 Fjord on 2019-09-27 06:25 (Reply)
A potentially huge and continuous income for the pharmaceutical industry, also. Much easier and more profitable than trying to develop new antibiotics, for example.
#8.1 DeGaulle on 2019-09-27 12:48 (Reply)
AIDS functions the same way for the homosexual community. Acquire it in youth and you're set as a victim for life and the drug companies will welcome your condition on their P and L statements.
#8.2 indyjonesouthere on 2019-09-27 14:02 (Reply)

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