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Saturday, April 6. 2019
In the USMC boot camp. It is preparation for battle from the first minute.
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I was not a Marine. But for me Air Force boot camp was awesome. If I was 18 again I would do it all over again.
The cost of our military is out of control. This video is just another piece of propaganda designed to make people think that the military makes "real men."
If it were up to me, I would cut the salary of all soldiers by 50%.
Then their claims of patriotism would at least be believable.
I'd cut the cost of all government employees by 50%...they are, after all, public servants and consume tax dollars. The administrative state is a danger to everyones well being and is currently out of control.
The services don’t try to make “real” men - they work to make sure they are fully prepared to do the jobs that they will do. Get to know an active duty soldier, marine or sailor or a vet and then come back and offer opinions about what’s believable or overpaid.
Easy to tell that you have never served. What public service have you provided for your country?
I disagree with the term "served." Lazy ass soldiers, and public servants use that term to try and lend moral authority to the fact that 99% of them sit around on their fat asses all day; and do nothing. There is no service being rendered. Unless drinking beer and watching porn is a service.
And I'm amused by your claim that "serving" imparts some kind of secret mystical knowledge. The only thing that the military does is teach men not to think: just follow orders.
Th real problem is that the military, through endless propaganda (like "Black hawk Down") has convinced people that we need to spend a fortune to have a military. That's not true. We could cut the military budget by 50% and we would still be able to fight.
We could cut the military budget by 50% and we would still be able to fight.
That's quite a generalization. Could you cite anything specific like what part of the budget to be cut and the "ability to fight" what?.
That's a fair question.
Unfortunately, the military doesn't make it easy to analyze their budget. What I do know is that we have a lot of military bases, and at least some of them could be closed. Fort Knox is a good example. Anyway, here is a list of topics in which the military claims to be involved. If it were up to me, I would reduce this list to five items; and reduce the size and scope of the military accordingly.
Climate and Environment
Defense and National Security
Military and Veterans' Health Care
Disaster Preparation and Relief
Employment and Labor Markets
Energy and Natural Resources
Infrastructure and Transportation
Poverty and Income Security
Science and Research and Development
State and Local Governments
Not sure how one would get to a 50% reduction of the military from that list and why such a reduction would still allow us the "ability to fight"...
Fight who, what, where, when, how and why...?
Don't you think the military has to be able answer those questions or at least provide the ability to meet all those scenarios successfully?
It's not the cost of our military that is out of control, but the cost of entitlement programs (Social security, Medicare and Medicaid).
Unlike spending on entitlement programs, the US Constitution makes military spending not only something the government may do, but something it must do.
As a percent of GDP, entitlement spending has risen since these programs began. On the other hand, with the brief exception of WW2, military spending (ass a percent of GDP) has slightly decreased since WW2:
But don't let the facts get in the way of your rant.
Even though I disagree with you, my brothers and I will continue to defend your right not only to be an a-hole, but to open your cake hole and let the world know about it.
PS: Which entitlement programs are you on?
I had to laugh when I read your post, because military people are such intellectual cowards that they always resort to name calling, and the use of personal insults. That's a lot easier than discussing the facts.
So let's talk about my "rant." First of all, other soldiers are not your brothers. Just because you imagine some mystical brotherhood does not mean that it's real. Unless you are referring to the brotherhood of freeloaders.
Now let's talk about your "willingness" to defend my freedom. The military is the most secretive organization in the world; they do not believe in freedom of speech, and they never have.
Right now, freedom of speech is under attack from every direction; copyright, hate speech, etc.
And just so you know, two homosexuals got married at West Point last month. So let's be honest: you and your tax-funded friends don't believe in anything. They could appoint a Lesbian chief of staff, and you wouldn't say a word. So spare me the moral posturing.
Now let's get down to the actual budget. Right now, we are spending 600 Billion dollars a year, and getting nothing in return. There is no conflict taking place. Further, in the future,
most major conflicts will be nuclear, so no troops will be needed. So what if the budget was cut by 50%? What would we lose? The answer is: nothing. We would simply stop buying things that the military doesn't need. We don't need new ships, or aircraft, or M-16 rifles. In fact, the military is drowning in equipment; they don't even know what to do with it all, so they store it in the desert.
So let me ask you a question: If the budget were cut by 50%, which bases would you close?
Dittos, Ron. Rightists have squandered so much that by now they've reduced themselves to the cult of the uniform.
This statism they call service.
"If the budget were cut by 50%, which bases would you close?"
The one currently affording you the freedom to run your mouth without fear of consequence, for starters.
"If it were up to me, I would cut the salary of all soldiers by 50%."
Then it's a good thing it's not up to you, isn't it.
Within a few years of following Ron's advice we (the survivors) would be learning Chinese.
B/1/6 2MarDiv 1955-1959. discharged as a sergeant. 8 year obligation. The rest were spent in the USMC reserves, starting with the 5th rifle company when I was in high school in Savannah.
I'm 81 now but still remember boot camp like it was this morning.
I was taught many things in boot camp and thereafter.
For instance, the first thing I do every morning, before anything else, is make up my bed.
"Good night "Chesty", where ever you are".
This former SEAL on the Joe Rogan Experience makes an observation about the only thing he learned in SEAL training was how to learn. Then they send them out to learn specific skills.
Basic is like that. For all the specifics, which they go over again in later training, most of Basic is about learning how to learn...in adverse conditions. How to regulate your emotions, and discipline your intellect. They give you basic principles. Then having been educated in the strict sense of the word, you go on to knowledge dense courses.
I realized that the big takeaway from Basic training and other entry level military or unit training is forcing the recruit to become educated, learn how to learn...a lot of times how to learn when you'd rather cry or lament your discomfort. Then you can fill them up with task specific training.