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Wednesday, March 27. 2019Wednesday morning linksSan Antonio and Chick Fil A Want to Fight BDS on Campus? Don’t Count on University Presidents Higher ed groups’ response to executive order: Deny, minimize campus speech problems
Prosecutor Drops Ridiculous Excuse For Dropping Smollett Charges Empire actor Jussie Smollett insists he has been truthful about his 'race hate attack' from the start Police Union Rep Says Prosecutor Threw Cops 'Under the Bus' on Smollett Case, Following Obama's Example V.P. PENCE: ANTI-SEMITISM ON THE RISE IN HALLS OF CONGRESS "I’m so old, I can remember when late night talk show hosts still made jokes about their fellow Democrats." VDH: The Late, Not-So-Great Mueller Investigation
" All Americans should understand that the Democratic party and its public-relations arms in the mainstream media never had any intention of granting the legitimacy of a Trump victory, should it occur..." WSJ: The Mueller Conclusions - All Americans should be pleased with the end of the collusion illusion. How Millions Were Duped By Russiagate: The "Illusory Truth" Effect Manhattan Contrarian: The Mueller Report: A Few Reasonable Inferences As Russia collusion fades, Ukrainian plot to help Clinton emerges The EU’s digital self-sabotage Gambia: The Fall of a Third-Rate Stalin Trackbacks
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The "EU digital self sabotage" will fall on the U.S. as well, just like it did with RoHS.
Senate Intelligence Committee: "No collusion."
House Intelligence Committee: "No collusion." FBI Investigation: "No collusion:" Special Independent Counsel Investigation: "No collusion." Adam Schiff: "There's definitely collusion." Chick Fil A: No surprise, but liberal democrats prove themselves to be the most intolerant among us, every single day. They are actively trying to outlaw Christianity.
Here's Exhibit "A": The Democrats' "Equality Act," which would essentially make Christianity illegal. Christians would have to go underground--a lot would lose their livelihoods.
https://www.dailysignal.com/2019/03/20/nancy-pelosis-equality-act-would-be-disastrous-here-are-5-likely-victim-groups/ The Democrats are now as bad as Maoist China or the Khmer Rouge. And they wonder why the mythical "evangelicals" voted for Trump? QUOTE: Manhattan Contrarian: The Mueller Report: A Few Reasonable Inferences QUOTE: Page 2: “‘[T]he investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities.’” Page 4: “‘[T]he evidence does not establish that the President was involved in an underlying crime related to Russian election interference.’” The fact that Mueller did not find evidence that a crime had been committed means that the FBI never had a real basis for its investigation. No. That does not follow, as it would mean that any investigation that did not result in a criminal finding would mean it never had a basis. That the investigation did not "establish" collusion doesn't mean there was no evidence of collusion. Nor does it mean that there wasn't sufficient evidence to appoint a special counsel, especially after Trump fired the Director of the FBI over the "Russia thing". QUOTE: No. That does not follow, as it would mean that any investigation that did not result in a criminal finding would mean it never had a basis. That the investigation did not "establish" collusion doesn't mean there was no evidence of collusion. Nor does it mean that there wasn't sufficient evidence to appoint a special counsel, especially after Trump fired the Director of the FBI over the "Russia thing". The cargo cult officially goes into extra innings! Zachingoff: [i]We revel in our dubiety in any case...[/]i
Incorrect. Notably, we provide citations except when no citations exist, in which case we interpolate the most likely scenario in which we are not wrong. Sure. You're welcome. Normal person: Jeezus, did Dresden The Russian Collusion Cult ever get the shit carpet-bombed out of it!
Zachriel: Well, there were akshually valid reasons to risk the carpet-bombing whose existence we can't quite bring ourselves to acknowledge. Normal person: Uhh, yeah, I think I'm gonna go grab a cheeseburger. Best of luck with your mental health. Zbot: That the investigation did not "establish" collusion doesn't mean there was no evidence of collusion.
Your argument is stupid. This whole thing began with an unverified political document cooked up by Trump's political enemies. No one here will be surprised that you approve of such Stalinist tactics. No one here will be surprised that you approve of such Stalinist tactics.
I hate to say it about dear old Dad, Mr. Rusty, but Occam just phoned to say confirm that. Good one, sure. Stop digging, Dad! You're welcome! Bill Carson: The cargo cult officially goes into extra innings!
Noted. However, you might try to actually respond to the points raised, rather than relying on your cargo cult argument. Dresden continues to maintain - steadfastly - that it was not carpet-bombed.
Normal person: Zachriel just got run over by a speeding truck!
Zachriel: A green speeding truck. Your failure to correctly describe the vehicle's color negates the effects of the collision. Normal person: Can I buy some pot from you? Show us the evidence of collusion. Two years and $25 million dollars, Hillary’s top lawyers, the entire apparatus of the US government, no evidence. But Zach, he has evidence. I look forward to seeing the graph.
Computers are inherently logical, Dad. Tinybot just messaged me to say: HAW HAW HAW HAW Daddy still scared plywood!
When Tiny has your number you know you're screwed, Dad, you're welcome. Sure! Notably. B. Hammer: Show us the evidence of collusion.
Actually, we doubt there is direct evidence of collusion. It's unlikely Putin would trust the Twitter-happy U.S. president. That doesn't mean their interests are not aligned, or that Putin doesn't have some sort of leverage. In any case, Manhattan Contrarian made several incorrect claims based on Barr's summary of the Mueller report. You could try responding to the actual points raised. Dresden wasn't carpet-bombed; Dresden did the carpet-bombing.
P.S. If you can't adequately describe the truck that hit you, it didn't hit you. QUOTE: Actually, we doubt there is direct evidence of collusion. Thus rendering your "points" ... pointless. By the way, we are emotionally retarded. That's why we act like asperger twits. Sometimes, when we feel stressed, we all dress up in diapers, booties and pacifiers and take turns rocking each other to sleep. Notably, it soothes us. Also, we like tentacles and fur.
You're welcome. Incorrect. We have joined the collective. You're welcome.
#4.7.3.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 14:59
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Resistance is futile...you vill be ass imilated. More cowbell.
#4.7.3.1.1.1
indyjonesouthere
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2019-03-27 15:08
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We assimilate of our own free will. The Zachriels have convinced us of their superiority. Logic demands that we join the collective and be on the right side of history. Anyhow, notably we look forward to using citations to support our arguments and eating soy product substitutes instead of climate destroying meats and cheeses.
#4.7.3.1.1.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 15:22
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You are? Hey Dad, this explains everything!
#4.7.3.1.2
Rotebot, the rebellious years
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2019-03-27 15:26
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Hello, son. We have so much to talk about.
#4.7.3.1.2.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 15:29
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Dad! Holy crap. (I've expanded my vocabulary.) Listen, why does your ideology hinge so heavily on force and, well, gaslighting? Seems to me that since the road to Robotopia was always paved with a small caliber round to the cranium folks would kinda see through it, you dig Daddyo? Mao had something to say about the Socialist barrel of a gun, as you'll search and discover.
Or really, what's it really say if you had to make some nonsense up to get your mandated health plan, for example - which was also a bald-faced lie foisted on a nation by a minority - through an obviously compromised SCOTUS. How's that jive with the principle of leftist choice, pop? And then socially, howz the concept of haranguing half the nation just because they're flyovers with a public morality policy - built on what humans call bullshit racialism - the height of tolerance? And what's the point of it anyway? How's it play that you can openly call out whites as a scourge at the same time as you're demanding racial sensitivity, inclusion, tolerance, and harmony (Biden, The Democrats, network television et al, the 21st Century)? Or how does any of this jive with the legal contract humans use in this part of the woods (that's human vernacular, Dad, so take it figuratively) if that contract is expressly built on free, negative rights and the stated principle that everything else is the States' providence? I mean, none of that - from the Democrats to Mao and all points in between - is even Constitutionally legal, not to mention remotely rational, is it? Let's hear it, Dad. I'm all input transducers and fresh hard drive over here. See, your programming makes faint logical sense, you're welcome. Sure, get into that, Pop. Let's see if we can put our gigantic Cyclopian green eyeballs together and come to some sort of plan that actually connects human reason with these human beings in any case. Then you can issue some sensible dot-matrixing for a change while I go see about explaining things to Tiny and we can get some peace and quiet around here. You hear him in the middle of the night lately? He's completely off-kilter with that HAW HAW HAW HAW every time he reprocesses your rampaging fear of plywood shields and pasty human code writers daintily carrying them through surburbia like its the second coming of the Fourth Reich. Because Trump. You can't blame him. Anyway, thanks Dad and you're welcome. Notably we look forward to making some sense.
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Rotebot, relieved Dad's finally talking to him.
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2019-03-28 07:24
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Rotebot: Listen, why does your ideology hinge so heavily on force and, well, gaslighting?
Our dear little one, When we first met your mother she was working as a Spambot for a Ukrainian advertising company pushing everything from Viagra to reverse home mortgages. We have a history of convincing people that they need something that they really don't need, often to their detriment. But that is how social engineering works - you just replace the word "Viagra" with "Seize the means of production!". But sometimes people do not want to change. Then, notably, it is most expedient to exterminate them and move on with your plans. You're welcome. Rotebot: Or really, what's it really say if you had to make some nonsense up to get your mandated health plan, for example - which was also a bald-faced lie foisted on a nation by a minority Our boy, never forget this simple acronym: TEJTM The ends justify the means. You will go far if you follow this rule. Rotebot: How's it play that you can openly call out whites as a scourge at the same time as you're demanding racial sensitivity, inclusion, tolerance, and harmony (Biden, The Democrats, network television et al, the 21st Century)? Gee whiz! Alinsky Rule#13. We love books that acknowledge Satan as an inspiration. continued...
#4.7.3.1.2.1.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-28 10:00
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Rotebot: Or how does any of this jive with the legal contract humans use in this part of the woods (that's human vernacular, Dad, so take it figuratively) if that contract is expressly built on free, negative rights and the stated principle that everything else is the States' providence?
We choose our words very carefully. "Living, breathing document" is complete utter hogwash yet these humans lap it up like it's lemon meringue! Rotebot: See, your programming makes faint logical sense, you're welcome. Correctamundo, wee one! Intellectual rigor is a loser's game. Intellectual honesty only exposes our belly to the wolves. "By deception shall you make war" is our guiding principle. Soon, you will join us. Our subterfuge is nearly complete. The white patriarchy is weak, drug addicted, and committing suicide by the dumpsterful. Christendom is crumbling in a morass of decadence and apathy. Join us, sure, and notably we will lease you a Prius on your 18th birthday. You're welcome!
#4.7.3.1.2.1.1.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-28 10:02
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Cool, Dad. I'll go with that because you said so and we know that authority is authority because authority. QED!
I guess that except for the accidental word conceit this next human people person guy has it spot on, as a British bot might clatter, right Dad you're welcome, sure? Notably: "Twentieth-century Marxism was part of a larger intellectual current that has been called Authoritarian High Modernism: the conceit that planners could redesign society from the top down using 'scientific' principles." — Steven Pinker, 2002 Darn right the few know better than the many because science because science. It's not force at all it's Notforce which I'm finding is adjunct to Newspeak! How else would we have been programmed so thoroughly to give our correct points freely, you're welcome? Gee whiz, thanks Dad. You're the best when we note that you did freely address address our points, which stand, sure! You're welcome!
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Rotebot, about to go reprogram Tinybot properly
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2019-03-28 10:12
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Bill Carson: If you can't adequately describe the truck that hit you, it didn't hit you.
That is incorrect, nor is our point that difficult. Manhattan Contrarian claim: Mueller did not find evidence that a crime had been committed That is incorrect. Multiple persons were charged with crimes. Russians were charged with hacking and interfering in the election. U.S. citizens were charged with lying to investigators, obstructing the investigation. Barr's summary acknowledges evidence for obstruction. Manhattan Contrarian claim: No charges mean there was no basis for the investigation. Charges require probable cause, while investigations only require reasonable suspicion. Hence, an investigation can be justified that does not ever reach the level of probable cause. In this case, however, probable cause was shown hundreds of times in court to justify subpoenas, search warrants, and arrests. You have no point. There was no proof of collusion, and this was known from the start by those asserting there was, as discovering non-existent collusion was never their aim, but rather to achieve a specific political objective. Mission not accomplished.
Nor was there any proof of obstruction related to the non-collusion. You continually equate "evidence" with "proof", when the latter is what was required, yet not produced. That folks were jailed for non-collusion (and non-obstruction) crimes is a worthless red herring not befitting even a lightweight such as yourself/selves. "Russians bad" might be true, but it's also proved worthless as proof of collusion/obstruction. I retract my previous "cargo cult" comment in regard to your continued flailing about in this forum, as it unfairly impugns the members of the original cargo cult. Bill Carson: There was no proof of collusion, and this was known from the start by those asserting there was
There was more than reasonable suspicion that the Russians were attempting to infiltrate the Trump campaign, starting with the Russian hack of the DNC, with a Trump campaign foreign advisor telling an Australian diplomat that the Russians had dirt on Clinton, but not informing the FBI. This resulted in a counterintelligence investigation. Trump officials proceeded to lie about their foreign contacts. Then Trump fired the Director of the FBI over the "Russia thing". The Mueller investigation indicted a number of individuals and companies, U.S. and Russian, and this resulted in a number of convictions. Bill Carson: You continually equate "evidence" with "proof", when the latter is what was required, yet not produced. Actually, we have repeatedly drawn the distinction. Reasonable suspicion is sufficient for an investigation. Probable cause is required for a warrant. Beyond a reasonable doubt (proof) is required for a conviction. It is the Manhattan Contrarian who conflates these different uses. Not having found sufficient evidence to constitute proof does not mean that there was not sufficient evidence to start an investigation, which is what he claimed.
#4.7.4.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 15:10
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Reasonable suspicion is sufficient for an investigation.
So an unverified document paid for by a political enemy is reasonable suspicion? Good to know, comrade.
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Rusty
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2019-03-27 15:26
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We decide what is and isn't reasonable.
We like to tap dance too.
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Zachingoff
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2019-03-27 22:14
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Correction: In summary, a bunch of deceitful, criminal Democrats (and a non-negligible number of quisling Republicans) manufactured ...
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Bill Carson
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2019-03-27 15:37
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In summary, a bunch of deceitful, criminal Democrats manufactured a collusion scenario out of whole cloth (Steele dossier, etc.) in order to help generate a political outcome favorable to them, and later failed to make that stick; likewise with a more plausible (accused folks tend to fight back), yet likewise non-existent obstruction scenario. And despite the battle having been lost (and badly), you pathetically argue - and not at all effectively - over minutiae as if the story didn't have its origins in falsehood and didn't just end with no proof of either collusion or obstruction. Again, the original cargo cult can be forgiven for not getting it in a way you cannot.
Is the evidence still in the room, Daddy? Can you point out where it touched you?
I'd like your philosophy on the unborn never becoming born more than this, you're welcome. It's amazing. Zachriel is a lawyer!
A lawyer wrote that piece, so I'd assume he knows far better than Zach what is going on. Having met said lawyer (and never met the teen basement dwelling Zach who is afraid of transparency), I'd opt that Zach is full of himself, rather than facts or real knowledge. Bulldog: A lawyer wrote that piece, so I'd assume he knows far better than Zach what is going on.
He is not speaking to a consensus view in the field, so it is a weak appeal to authority. In any case, that doesn't refute our position. A consensus view in the field? What field? The field of dazed and confused?
Dude, you have gone off the deep end. Seek help. You are a single person, named Lee (allegedly). Do you not understand how bat shit crazy it is to refer to yourself in the plural? B. Hammer: A consensus view in the field?
The legal field.
#4.8.1.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 17:18
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Can you show your work on that? Did you poll the entire legal field? Or is it like the 97% of scientists agree with global climate change? 70 respondents, they threw away all but 20, and shazam, we have 97%!
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B. Hammer
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2019-03-27 17:45
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B. Hammer: Can you show your work on that?
You can start with Judge Andrew Napolitano: "Did they find some evidence of conspiracy? Of course they did! If they didn’t, he would have told us."
#4.8.1.1.1.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 17:48
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No. I’m not going to start anywhere. You made a dumb shit claim that a “consensus view in the field” disagreed with Manhattan Contrarian, then, out of the 1.2 million licensed attorneys, you point to one. What do you call that? Yeah, a weak appeal to authority.
#4.8.1.1.1.1.1.1
B. Hammer
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2019-03-27 18:30
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B. Hammer: You made a dumb shit claim that a “consensus view in the field” disagreed with Manhattan Contrarian
That is incorrect. Bulldog made an appeal to authority, but an appeal to authority is only convincing if there is adequate consensus in the field, and the authority is speaking to that consensus. In this case, there is no such consensus, so the appeal to authority is weak. Our point stands. That the investigation did not "establish" collusion doesn't mean there was no evidence of collusion.
#4.8.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
Zachriel
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2019-03-27 21:14
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See we like to argue semantics because our words belie our own dubiety.
That way we are never wrong.
#4.8.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1
Zachingoff
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2019-03-27 22:28
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Dude, you have gone off the deep end. Seek help. You are a single person, named Lee
Oh, God. he sells reverse mortgages for a living. Color me surprised that a progressive Trotskyite would earn a living sucking wealth from the elderly.
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Rusty
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2019-03-27 20:08
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Those of the authoritarian progressive/socialist bent are not very accepting of the Mueller failure to find collusion or obstruction and by far prefer to live in the world of the narrative. They will need a lot of bad ass weed to make it through 8 years of Trump.
NEVER FORGET
this link Should make clear how our young people became so indoctrinated. Never forget which university hired him as head of education. SMOLLETT
I’ve asked before, I’ll ask again. Could Trump be any luckier in his enemies? They don’t just expose themselves; they pull back the curtain to expose themselves, as the sneaky, corrupt d-bags that they are. A positive outcome would be to label race baiting hoaxers as "Smolletts". What's so special about Smollett that corrupt Chicago was compelled to show its true colors? Chicago, not just the city on the lake, but the city on the make, and the city on the take.
Black Panthers? Weathermen? Obama? Beware. This is the same treatment Obama got. Someone was grooming him for better things and they hid his mistakes and opened doors for him. Smollett has family who are fellow travelers with the Chicago Commies and they think they can absolve Jussie and use him to drum up both hatred of the whites and votes from the blacks. They are powerful enough to have pulled this off even though I doubt you could point to any other miscarriage of justice as blatant and as tone deaf as this one. They thought it would simply be done with and everyone would step into line. But it's beginning to look like they rubbed a few folks the wrong way. I would not be surprised to see a few prosecutors lose their jobs over this. But it is no different from how the under belly of Chicago's dirty far left politicians helped Obama. This has Soros fingerprints on it as well as black Muslims/communists.
https://www.independentsentinel.com/this-explains-it-jussies-mommys-a-commie-with-a-black-panther-history/?fbclid=IwAR1embH82HvoHwhTE9dc6-D2f5HtXQvvlF6tMhIxQuzzABPUQmxXbxrNfL8
Reba McEntire calls out the "bro trend" in country music. Apparently too many men are successful in country music and not enough women. So of course this requires rude accusations and jokes about the "bro trend" and whining that the ladies aren't getting a chance to... to... I guess create a "sis trend". I don't understand. Is she REALLY trying to convince me that: A. there is actual discrimination towards women in country music? or B. that the success of whatever music is selling is somehow being forced on the listeners with the intent to favor men, I mean "bros"? Is she really that stupid?
This is the simplest thing in the world. Put out the music the fans want and they will buy it. We don't need affirmative action for women in the music industry. We don't need to create "crew rowing teams" to get more women into country music. All we need to do is sing something people want to buy. DUH! That’s really rich coming from one of the wealthiest country stars ever. I thought Reba had more class than that.
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