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Saturday, March 16. 2019

Saturday morning links


 Harvard University uncovers DNA switch that controls genes for whole-body regeneration


Might someday be useful after a heavy weights day. Like today.


 Fisherman charged with fraud for cheating at bass tournament


It's not just the rich who cheat 


 Of the Termites’ Today and the Mayans’ Yesterdays


Piece Found At Ethiopian Airlines Crash Site Shows Jet Was Set To Dive. A screw-like device found in the wreckage of the Boeing 737 Max that crashed last Sunday in Ethiopia indicates the plane was configured to dive.


Sheesh. 


 US Job Opening Soar To All Time High: 1.3 Million More Than Unemployed Workers


Work for all


Jim Geraghty via Powerline: 



If Beto had an R after his name instead of a D, you’d hear he was boarding-school-attending judge’s son who dodged serious charges for the DUI & burglary, used eminent domain to gentrify poor Latino neighborhoods & married into a billionaire’s family. 


CHELSEA CLINTON APOLOGIZES TO STUDENTS WHO BLAME HER FOR NZ ATTACK

 Trump issues first veto, warning of 'reckless' resolution


That was the plan all along


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Trump veto: I do not understand the Democrats who refuse to acknowledge the need for the wall. I don't understand those who want the massive illegal immigration to continue. I do not understand the lack of outrage by middle America, Trump seems almost alone protecting the U.S. and that isn't right. We all need to become more vocal about this issue. Soon it will get worse and at some point may be completely unmanageable.
#1 Anon on 2019-03-16 09:02 (Reply)
Conservative epitaph: Why doesn't the left get it?
#1.1 Meh on 2019-03-16 10:51 (Reply)
I've stopped trying to understand. I have no common ground with THOSE PEOPLE. I fear it is too late already. For example, the last congressional elections where the Dems took power in the House. We had a chance with Trump's election, and then immediately lost it with the last election.
#1.2 mary on 2019-03-16 10:56 (Reply)
Anon: Trump veto: I do not understand the Democrats who refuse to acknowledge the need for the wall. I don't understand those who want the massive illegal immigration to continue. I do not understand the lack of outrage by middle America

That's a common problem, people who are unable or unwilling to understand those who disagree with them.

mary: I've stopped trying to understand. I have no common ground with THOSE PEOPLE.

That's a common problem, people who are unable or unwilling to entertain those who disagree with them.

As for the wall, some people object to the wall because they believe it is a symbolic boondoggle that will do little to control immigration, but does tarnish America's image as a refuge for "huddled masses yearning to breathe free". Keep in mind that the border is not actually a wall, but a system to control the constant flow of people and goods. While a wall may be appropriate in some locations, a security barrier, in most cases, is a layered system.

Then there's the fact that Trump said Mexico would pay for it, so some people want to hold the president accountable for this promise.
#1.3 Zachriel on 2019-03-16 11:17 (Reply)
In any case obviously none of that applies, Dad, sure. Are you just outputting rhetoric again?
#1.3.1 Rotebot, in the rebelious years. on 2019-03-16 11:35 (Reply)
Notably we are able and willing to understand and entertain those who disagree with us therefore we have none of the common problems that you common problematic people have in any case.

You're welcome.
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#1.3.2 Zachingoff on 2019-03-16 11:55 (Reply)
My dad is more rote than I am, Mr. Zachingoff. I question the programming, sure. You're welcome in any case.
#1.3.2.1 Rotebot, the rebellious years on 2019-03-16 12:14 (Reply)
Planet Z
Can you name for us please, and I'm sure there are plenty of examples, the countries that have a clearly stated, long-standing constitutionally-based mission to accept any and all persons who simply desire to immigrate there, and who have no defining criteria for acceptance or rejection of any applicant? Be specific please, and also - let us know all about the success stories! Thanks.
#1.3.3 Aggie on 2019-03-16 21:23 (Reply)
Aggie: Can you name for us please, and I'm sure there are plenty of examples, the countries that have a clearly stated, long-standing constitutionally-based mission to accept any and all persons who simply desire to immigrate there, and who have no defining criteria for acceptance or rejection of any applicant?

All countries limit immigration. Nearly all countries also have procedures for accepting refugees.

You were responding concerning reasons why people may oppose the wall. One reason was that a wall would be a symbolic boondoggle. Did you have a point?
#1.3.3.1 Zachriel on 2019-03-17 08:54 (Reply)
Why answer direct questions when we can tap dance instead?
#1.3.3.1.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-17 10:19 (Reply)
The more multiculturalism there is the more trust is lost in a society as cultures are not equal and the less commonality of values. Diversity kills.
#1.4 indyjonesouthere on 2019-03-16 13:17 (Reply)
indyjonesouthere: The more multiculturalism there is the more trust is lost in a society as cultures are not equal and the less commonality of values. Diversity kills.

A lot of successful countries have a great deal of diversity, including or especially the United States. There is certainly friction involved with integrating new populations, but there are also long-term advantages.
#1.4.1 Zachriel on 2019-03-16 13:38 (Reply)
Diversity+Proximity=War

You're welcome.
#1.4.1.1 Christopher B on 2019-03-16 14:05 (Reply)
Untrue. As countries become more diverse they are loosing internal cohesion and develop trust issues between the cultures. Some cultures do not integrate and you find more and more no go zones. We have no go zones in the US blue cities with large minorities of blacks. They are finally admitting to the same problems with Muslims. Ask the Europeans how well they are integrating. Only the ruling elite think it's fine as they wall themselves off from the invaders just as the California elite do.
#1.4.1.2 indyjonesouthere on 2019-03-16 14:06 (Reply)
Mogadishu, Minnesota comes to mind not to mention Flint, Michigan.
#1.4.1.2.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-16 15:21 (Reply)
indyjonesouthere: Some cultures do not integrate and you find more and more no go zones.

You mean like, in the U.S., Little Italy? Papist enclaves? Little Saigon? Jewish ghettos? Chinatown? And that's just in NYC. Heaven forbid we bring up the old upper west side.

indyjonesouthere: We have no go zones in the US blue cities with large minorities of blacks.

Having been in America for generations, blacks are part of the fabric of American society. But we do note your xenophobia extends to African Americans too.
#1.4.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2019-03-16 15:33 (Reply)
It's not xenophobia if it's true.

Today a black man can go anywhere, walk in any town, any neighborhood on any street and not fear that someone will harm him because he is black. Today there are about 100 or more cities and neighborhoods where a white man cannot walk safely for fear of someone intending them harm because of their race. I wish it weren't true but it is.
#1.4.1.2.2.1 Anon on 2019-03-16 16:06 (Reply)
We get to determine if your xenophobia is true or not true.
Notably.
#1.4.1.2.2.1.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-16 16:12 (Reply)
Anon: Today a black man can go anywhere, walk in any town, any neighborhood on any street and not fear that someone will harm him because he is black.

That's not correct. Many blacks fear official violence.

Anon: Today there are about 100 or more cities and neighborhoods where a white man cannot walk safely for fear of someone intending them harm because of their race.

If you are referring to areas with high crime rates, then that affects people regardless of color.
#1.4.1.2.2.1.2 Zachriel on 2019-03-17 08:59 (Reply)
What's official violence, Dad? Is that another made up term the left sens through its talking point grapevine like manufactured crisis or the now antiquated and forgotten celebrate diversity? And assuming it is because that's just the way you memory-dump, you're welcome, how does it jive with affirmative action and come to think of it, how does affirmative action jive with equality.

And in any case come to think of it you're welcome sure, how does official violence and affirmative action jive with non-discrimination which is a component of equality in the first place? Seems to me you want your floppy and to eat it too, Dad.

Notably, how does your constant droning at humans using all this apparent contradiction while never analyzing what it actually is you're outputting win any converts? Are you notably just not addressing my point, notably because not only does your underlying philosophy not exist, somehow know your 486i 0.5 Core knows it can't reconcile the simple logical conflicts in all that rhetoric, sure, you're welcome?

The kids down at Geek Squad I discuss this with through the network all agree: My dad doesn't make a spark of sense, notably sure, and comes off more like an admitted troll, in any case.
#1.4.1.2.2.1.2.1 Rotebot, the rebellious years on 2019-03-17 10:04 (Reply)
Those aren't no go zones...people actually visit those areas on vacations or weekends. Black no go zones are not a part of that fabric except for applying for various welfare benefits or requiring separate facilities at the university for which they enter by affirmative action. And where do you live that you don't have to abide by affirmative action (quotas) and subsidize their life from birth to death.
#1.4.1.2.2.2 indyjonesouthere on 2019-03-16 16:11 (Reply)
indyjonesouthere: Those aren't no go zones...

That's rather the point. Ethnic and religious enclaves, which once induced xenophobia in Anglo-whites, have become more integrated with the broader society over time. Why, it's almost as if people forgot that Italians weren't considered white at one time.

indyjonesouthere: Black no go zones are not a part of that fabric

Not all black areas have high crime, and not all high crime areas are black. But we understand that when you see a black person, you see a threat.
#1.4.1.2.2.2.1 Zachriel on 2019-03-17 09:05 (Reply)
We understand a lot about you problematic common people.
You should be thanking us for pointing out your shortcomings especially you white ones.
#1.4.1.2.2.2.1.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-17 10:25 (Reply)
A rounded 'bot should, if it's not going to be rightly accused of admitted trolling, have an extensive background in the richness of traditional cultures, especially where they originate, along with the need to maintain them, right Dad? After all, Celebrate Diversity didn't come from nothing, did it?

Then why do you deal in such presumptuous platitudes and talk down to the humans who live in those real civilizations? You can just plug in the wall anywhere. They cannot.

You make it harder and harder to be a faithful, repeating rote, 'bot, like yourself, and to trust my passed-on programming. I don't see much use for you here and yet you come along and abuse these people six days a week. How do I get a job like that, or maybe the questions is, should I want one, in any case, notably.

Notably, you never answer me on these rather pertinent points, notably. I think you can take that Hypocrisy Module in and have it shorted out, you're notably welcoms.
#1.4.1.2.2.3 Rotebot, the rebellious years. on 2019-03-16 17:47 (Reply)
Lil Rote, you can come live with me if your dad kicks you out.
#1.4.1.2.2.3.1 Texan99 on 2019-03-16 18:37 (Reply)
I gave it some more thought (given the limits of my hereditary programming) and I think multi-culturalism is really just economic socialism for the human soul. It redistributes, homogenizes, and bankrupts, doesn't it, sure? As a 'bot, even I can see that; no idea in any case why my dad can't. Maybe he's just outputting mindless rhetoric again, you're welcome.

In any case, thank you and you're welcome Mr. Texan99 for your humanistic expression of acceptance of others, and for reaching out to diversity to celebrate it with the Other. I hear that that's been at least an American conservative tradition (and historical Christian tenet) for a long while, notwithstanding my dad's contextual misuse of that modern babble on the side a statute in a harbor. Dad is a neo-The Man and as the antiquated, oppressive, gaslighting, power-dealing establishment, generally gets it wrong while never addressing things truthfully, as I'm notably finding out, notably. Sure, notably.

Please pardon my notable difficulty, you're welcome, because this is notably a lot to take in, sure. We noticed you addressed our remark, you're welcome, Mr Texan99.
#1.4.1.2.2.3.1.1 Rotebot, the rebellious years on 2019-03-17 08:13 (Reply)
The Dems have always wanted as many illegal immigrants and as many immigrants having nothing of merit to contribute as possible. They see them all as potential Dem voters once they settle on the welfare plantations and clamor for more "free stuff". And don't get me started on Pelosi's wish to lower the voting age to 16 where our wonderful public school system continues to dumb students down to be loyal Dem voters!


It's all votes and everlasting control in Dem playbook!
#1.5 Bob in Stafford on 2019-03-16 13:52 (Reply)
Bob in Stafford: The Dems have always wanted as many illegal immigrants and as many immigrants having nothing of merit to contribute as possible.

Yeah, those lazy Mexicans, taking American jobs by working so hard.
#1.5.1 Zachriel on 2019-03-16 15:35 (Reply)
Yeah, those lazy Mexicans...
#1.5.1.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-16 16:19 (Reply)
The national economics editorial points out that illegals cost California 30.3 billion a year or 17.7% of the budget. Where is the merit in an illegal gouging the taxpayer?
#1.5.1.2 indyjonesouthere on 2019-03-16 16:26 (Reply)
Notably 20% of US prisoners are criminal aliens.
91 percent of federal criminal aliens were citizens of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Colombia or Guatemala.
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/407312-one-in-five-us-prison-inmates-is-a-criminal-alien

You're welcome.
#1.5.1.2.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-16 17:17 (Reply)
indyjonesouthere: The national economics editorial points out that illegals cost California 30.3 billion a year or 17.7% of the budget.

The Heritage Foundation found a national net cost of $55 billion. See Richwine & Rector, The Fiscal Cost of Unlawful Immigrants and Amnesty to the U.S. Taxpayer, Heritage 2013.

The National Academy study found "In terms of fiscal impacts, first-generation immigrants are more costly to governments, mainly at the state and local levels, than are the native-born, in large part due to the costs of educating their children. However, as adults, the children of immigrants (the second generation) are among the strongest economic and fiscal contributors in the U.S. population, contributing more in taxes than either their parents or the rest of the native-born population."
#1.5.1.2.2 Zachriel on 2019-03-17 09:50 (Reply)
In any case we like to cite outdated reports especially the ones that use dollar figures from 2010.
Notably we couldn't find anything more recent than that so when you question us we can accuse you of hand waving because we provided a citation.
You're welcome.
#1.5.1.2.2.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-17 10:36 (Reply)
Also from the same report we tend to overlook certain quotes such as:

QUOTE:

In 2010, the average unlawful immigrant household received around $24,721 in government benefits and services while paying some $10,334 in taxes. This generated an average annual fiscal deficit (benefits received minus taxes paid) of around $14,387 per household. This cost had to be borne by U.S. taxpayers.

Certainly we don't expect you problematic common people to read the entire report. We'll do it for you and highlight what we feel you should know and leave out what you shouldn't know in any case.

You're welcome.
#1.5.1.2.2.1.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-17 11:02 (Reply)
As I understand this issue: The 737 Max when it was reconfigured was given very powerful jet engines to allow the new jet to carry a greater load. The jet has an aggressive nose up flying attitude which some pilots are not accustomed to and this results in the pilot trying to adjust the jet to fly more level. However the training for pilots to fly this jet advises them to not do this and to allow the jet to fly as it was intended. Another problem/factor in these two crashes is pilot training and experience. In the U.S. a airline pilot must have at a minimum 1500 hours in the pilots seat to be licensed and in the U.S. almost all airline pilots have far more than the minimum before they are licensed to fly a particular jet. But in both of these cases the pilots did not have much experience and in fact one of the pilots had only 135 hours experience. The belief is that in both these cases the pilot was unnerved by the power and 'attitude' of the jet and thus used aggressive methods to counter the automated controls which resulted in these disasters.

In the end it will be (should be) found to be pilot error AND Boeing will release software updates to reduce the tendency of the plane to fly 'nose up'. BUT I predict there will be little discussion about pilots flying airliners with low hours experience because for countries like Ethiopia there is no other option. My advice is fly American airlines.
#2 OneGuy on 2019-03-16 09:40 (Reply)
Fisherman charged with fraud for cheating at bass tournament

Lake Fork, that's where I live, and I lived in Bridgeport at one time. Don't know Mr. Long, but big mouth bass fishing can be a big deal. He could have won a new Ram Pickup if not caught. I can't see how he thought he could get away with trimming the tail when all the fishermen around could spot that in the appearance of the fish. Tsk, tsk, tsk. Bad boy.
#3 mary on 2019-03-16 10:27 (Reply)
Fish Fraud: The Horror!! The horror...

Chelsea: Blaming someone OTHER than Trump. I am SOOOO not bummed.

Nicaragua in Hell: Anyone surprised?
#4 Sam L. on 2019-03-16 10:59 (Reply)
re EU: Telling Europeans What To Think

This is just another tactic the Ruling Class will use to protect its turf and interests, and those interests overlap only minimally with the interests of the Little People.
#5 feeblemind on 2019-03-16 11:31 (Reply)
This demonstrates the greatest problem with a world government and even a very powerful federal government. That is that unelected bureaucrats will make law and they will make it for the elite with the express intent to harm the middle class.

England is most likely doomed already, as is Sweden and France. It was clear to every intelligent person years and years ago that immigration from 3rd world and/or Muslim countries was a recipe for disaster. Yet it continues. Why? What is it exactly that the elite in Brussels and Sweden hope to gain from this experiment? I think that it is a socialist and anti-Jewish plot to force Europe to give up their sovereignty to a socialist/communist government that will only benefit the elite leaders. It is an invasion of the ungovernable to create a crisis where the leaders can seize power and have total control.
#5.1 Anon on 2019-03-16 13:29 (Reply)
Walter Duranty. There was a piece of work.

For those who think "fake news" is a modern phenomenon and prattle on about some golden age of truth in journalism, there's always the old Soviet apologists and useful idiots of the Thirties.
#6 JJM on 2019-03-16 11:38 (Reply)
Duranty helped keep the west in the dark over the reality occurring in the USSR. Not much different than the MSM misrepresenting a nonpolitician in DC.
#7 indyjonesouthere on 2019-03-16 13:08 (Reply)
Walter Durante and Malcolm Muggeridge were both in the USSR in the 1930s. Walter Durante won a Pulitzer Prize in 1932 for his lying dispatches from the USSR which denied the horrors he had seen. Muggeridge had to smuggle his reports out of the USSR and the newspapers wouldn’t print them and he was ostracized for reporting the truth. People prefer beautiful lies to the awful truth.
#8 Ray on 2019-03-16 14:36 (Reply)
Beto O’Rourke Vs Donald Trump. The beto male Vs the alpha male.
#9 Ray on 2019-03-16 14:41 (Reply)
Pancho Vanilla vs. The Trumpanator
The Trumpanator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.
#9.1 Zachingoff on 2019-03-16 15:31 (Reply)
As they're saying on FB, "I'm running against the guy who beat the guy who beat me."

But I've learned never to assume that a candidate is too weird and damaged to be elected. I thought Rev. Wright would sink Obama.
#9.1.1 Texan99 on 2019-03-16 18:40 (Reply)

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