We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
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Sure. Political tension has been a reoccurring theme among politicos since political tension occurred. We note that you have not made any references to us. This is incorrect.
I give credit to Trump for a lot of things, but lefties losing their minds is not one of them. I think they did that all on their own. For most of them, it's a short trip to loonytown.
One of the (many) incoherences in Renewable Energy Theory is that wind power is intended to become our primary energy source, substituting for traditional kinds. All the evidence on our wind-turbine-blighted horizons tells us that they do not work, even now. But the Warmers tell us that their alleged Global Warming is the source of all our extreme weather events, most particularly storms and hurricanes. The logic is that reducing global temperatures, primarily via alternative wind energy, will consequently reduce air activity and the incidence of these nasty old storms. Ergo, wind-power will negate itself-with most air activity intended to be reduced or eliminated, where will our energy then come from?
+ Energy, cost and pollution to manufacture and ship turbines
+ Energy and cost to install and maintain turbines
+ Inefficiency of managing wind energy on the grid
- Energy contribution offsets
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= You can't get there from here
Same problem has been shown with electric cars, which use way more energy and cause more pollution in production than they ever offset on the road.
But this is a religion, not science. Logic is useless here.
Same problem has been shown with electric cars, which use way more energy and cause more pollution in production than they ever offset on the road.
This. Integration over the entire process reveals energy consumption and pollution above those associated with "non-green" alternatives. One has to imagine that electric cars (and the electricity to power them) somehow spontaneously come into existence.
On a related note, try talking to your average lefty about recycling anything besides aluminum or other metals. But you already summarized the essence of that discussion:
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But this is a religion, not science. Logic is useless here.