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For Reasons Good and Sad, Thanksgiving Is Now Our Greatest Holiday

Best thing about it? No darn presents. Nobody needs presents, unless they are edible. Mrs. BD is threatening to get me an iphone XS for Christmas. Do I need that gadget? My life is pretty good right now as it is.

Much Ado About Free Speech: A Canadian Professor Responds

Also, "Of late, the Left has again become rather taken with the notion that marginalised groups suffer under unfettered speech. Ergo, it is argued, “Social Justice Warriors are the true defenders of free speech,” because selective censorship helps to compensate for power differentials and open public discourse to a diverse range of voices."

Elizabeth Yore on FGM: ‘Silence from Feminists Has Been Deafening on This Issue’

Coyote: Transpartisan Plan #2: A Better Approach to Government Health Care: Focus the Government on the One Thing It Does Best

Makes sense to me, not to politicians

Clinton Foundation Donations Plummet 90% Over Three-Year Period Following

Hillary’s Departure From State Department

Florida Investigating State’s Democratic Party for Fraud

John Kelly Signs “Cabinet Order” Authorizing Troops At Border To Use Force, Perform Some Law Enforcement Functions

Good. Uninvited guests not welcome. Angry disrepectful invaders less so.

Vote Or Get This: Trump Appears On French Election Posters

The Fall of the House of Saud

Substitutes for victory in Afghanistan

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I do not understand why there isn't outrage over FGM. Not just feminist but everyone. It is a human issue not simply a female issue. It is disgusting in it's justification and it's purpose. It is even more disgusting in how it is done especially in 3rd world shithole countries. Seriously folks where is the outrage?

#1 GoneWithTheWInd on 2018-11-23 10:01 (Reply)

"Vote Or Get This: Trump Appears On French Election Posters"

I'm reminded of the 2002 French presidential election when Chirac was being challenged by Le Pen père. The unofficial slogan making the rounds was:

"Votez escroc, pas facho!"

Roughly:

"Vote for the crook (Chirac), not the fascist (Le Pen)!"

#2 JJM on 2018-11-23 10:15 (Reply)

The 1991 U.S. equivalent was "Vote For the Crook. It's Important." The election pitted the corrupt Democrat Edwin Edwards against the racist Republican David Duke. Notably, President Bush endorsed the crook over the racist.

#2.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 11:11 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Clinton Foundation Donations Plummet 90% Over Three-Year Period Following

Hillary Clinton resigned from the Clinton Foundation, and the Clinton Global Initiative was shuttered, which had generated many large donations.

#3 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 11:16 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Elizabeth Yore on FGM: ‘Silence from Feminists Has Been Deafening on This Issue’

International Planned Parenthood: "Female genital mutilation (FGM) is a human rights violation"

National Organization for Women: "Female Genital Mutilation (FGM) is an extremely dangerous, inhumane, and medically unnecessary procedure that affects nearly 170,000 girls and women in the United States, and 140 million around the world."

#4 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 11:20 (Reply)

Dying to know your explanation why these official statements aren't more widely known.

#4.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-11-23 14:33 (Reply)

Assistant Village Idiot: Dying to know your explanation why these official statements aren't more widely known.

We recognized immediately that the claim about "silence from feminists" was not accurate. It was simply a matter of looking at a couple of primary sources. The question, then, is why this is at all surprising to you and Elizabeth Yore?

Feminist Majority Foundation: "Why should FGM be stopped?"

#4.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 15:52 (Reply)

A perfect non-answer, and exactly as I expected. An Asperger's answer. There are no protests about FGM. It is not referenced repeatedly when feminists speak out daily, not in any context. It does not come up in any campaign for public office. Campus advocates do not shout down people from these countries when they come to speak. Yet because technically, it shows up on websites - because really, what else are they going to say when asked - you pretend to yourself that it is being addressed by feminists.

My experience of feminists and issues that they care about is that one hears about them frequently. This is not heard about frequently. While some feminists may care - indeed, if you asked, the average feminist would say "Yeah, really, that's terrible," no prominent feminists put any emphasis on it, ever.

Here's the bad news: it's because the really don't care about those other women, those third-world women. They care about their own personal power in the public eye. When they said the personal is political, that turned out to be true in a way they never intended.

#4.1.1.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-11-23 17:55 (Reply)

Assistant Village Idiot: A perfect non-answer, and exactly as I expected.

A perfect non-answer, and exactly as expected. We provided the official position of three different feminist organizations, so the claim they are silent is clearly false.

Change.org: "FGM abolitionists internationally: Support the Feminist Statement on Female Genital Mutilation"

feminist.com: "FGM is a violation of women and girls' basic human rights including the right to life, the right to be protected from cruel, inhuman, or degrading treatment or punishment, the right to physical integrity, and the right to health."

#4.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 20:51 (Reply)

Let's walk through Zachriel's non-answer to AVI's perfect dissection of feminism's lack of interest in FGM (i.e., its lack of interest in actual feminism), shall we?

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AVI: There are no protests about FGM.

Zachriel: No response.

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AVI: It is not referenced repeatedly when feminists speak out daily, not in any context.

Zachriel: No response.

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AVI: Campus advocates do not shout down people from these countries when they come to speak.

Zachriel: No response.

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AVI: Yet because technically, it shows up on websites - because really, what else are they going to say when asked - you pretend to yourself that it is being addressed by feminists.

Zachriel: It's addressed on the following websites.

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Zachriel for the lack of self-awareness WIN!!!

#4.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-24 00:10 (Reply)

Bill Carson: AVI: There are no protests about FGM.

Just because you have your eyes closed doesn't mean something doesn't exist.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-24 08:44 (Reply)

Just because something is virtually non-existent doesn't mean that it isn't a top priority for leftists/democrats - got it. Come back when you rise to the level of weak shit.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-24 11:13 (Reply)

Bill Carson: Just because something is virtually non-existent doesn't mean that it isn't a top priority for leftists/democrats - got it.

This is not virtually non-existent.

The problem is apparently due to the echochamber in which you reside. To those outside the echochamber, it's obvious that women's organizations are against FGM, that they have been protesting against it around the world, and that it was a simple matter of looking up evidence. That you deny the evidence is a facet of the echochamber.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-24 11:22 (Reply)

The evidence is weak, the scale is, to be generous, negligible, and every thing that AVI initially brought up, you have failed to address. You suck. Again, for emphasis ...

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AVI: There are no protests about FGM.

Zachriel: No response. Miniscule demonstrations led by nobody of importance to the Democrats/International Left (well, save for their reliable votes!) prove AVI correct yet again!

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AVI: It is not referenced repeatedly when feminists speak out daily, not in any context.

Zachriel: No response. Gloria Steinem paid lip service to FGM for 37 seconds tens of years ago! See!

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AVI: Campus advocates do not shout down people from these countries when they come to speak.

Zachriel: No response.

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AVI: Yet because technically, it shows up on websites - because really, what else are they going to say when asked - you pretend to yourself that it is being addressed by feminists.

Zachriel: It's addressed on the following websites ...

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You suck. You're welcome.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-25 06:21 (Reply)

Bill Carson: The evidence is weak, the scale is, to be generous, negligible

The evidence was significant and extensive, and included specific political figures, numerous feminist organizations, as well as public demonstrations.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-25 08:54 (Reply)

In the U.S., FGM wasn't confined to immigrants, but was used "medically" as a cure for nymphomania and masturbation. It was the feminist Gloria Steinem who brought light to the issue in a famed Ms Magazine article in 1976. It was Senator Harry Reid who pushed for a federal law against the practice, finally succeeding in 1995.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2018-11-24 10:20 (Reply)

Gloria Steinem and Harry Reid teamed up to eradicate FGM - who knew? What will those two stamp out next? Cancer? World hunger? Or will they blaze the trail leading to the colonization of Mars?

Zachriel, your sense of scale and use of logic are to a sense of scale and the use of logic as Hillary Clinton is to victorious Presidential campaigns. Only a "we" (nounal, ain't it?!?) could amass the retard you regularly bring.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-24 11:19 (Reply)

Bill Carson: Gloria Steinem and Harry Reid teamed up to eradicate FGM -

Steinem brought the issue to the attention of American women, while Reid was instrumental in passing a federal law against the practice. The law was recently overturned by a federal district court. Equality Now, a women's equality group, is pressing for an appeal. This is part of an international effort to criminalize the practice worldwide.

Bill Carson: - who knew?

Now you are informed. You're welcome.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-24 11:29 (Reply)

Sorry for the previous harsh words, Zachriel, as I've had a sudden change of heart. You're right: The Democrats have had an all-out, 24-7 blitz to stop FGM and the evidence has been right out in front of me, but I've been too blind to see it. Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer have been on all of the Sunday news shows denouncing it. Everyone from Jake Tapper to the Daily Kos has in unison been decrying its evils and the threat they pose to humanity. Hell, Democrats were hysterically beating on the doors to governmental buildings a few weeks back in protest against it. Contrast that to the fight against the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court, which was marked by only a few strongly-worded statements on some obscure websites and tiny protests attended mainly by folks from Somalia. Thanks for clearing the scales from my eyes!

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-25 06:32 (Reply)

Bill Carson: which was marked by only a few strongly-worded statements on some obscure websites

The National Organization for Women, International Planned Parenthood, Feminist Majority Foundation, and Change.org are not obscure. Steinem is not obscure. Legislation pushed into law by Harry Reid is not obscure.

Bill Carson: and tiny protests attended mainly by folks from Somalia.

Because we know that brown people don't really count.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-25 09:09 (Reply)

Stop trying to make Democrat/leftist opposition to FGM a thing, jack-ass, as it clearly isn't. Open borders efforts, attempts to paint some Muslim Brotherhood "journalist" as George Washington's descendant, attempts to establish the existence of non-existent Russian collusion, etc. receive orders of magnitude (at least 4 orders!) more time, effort, and money from Democrats/leftists. You're embarrassing yourself. Again.

QUOTE:

Because we know that brown people don't really count.

Your care for brown folks is exceeded only by your unawareness of humor and scale.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-25 10:39 (Reply)

Bill Carson: Stop trying to make Democrat/leftist opposition to FGM a thing

Don't have to try. The evidence is clear. Feminist organizations have taken a stand against FGM. There is an international movement to outlaw the practice, primarily led by women's groups. The battle had largely been won in the U.S. with legislation spearheaded by Harry Reid in the 1990s, but the recent court decision has brought it back to the fore.

Bill Carson: Open borders ...

Squirrel!

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-25 10:51 (Reply)

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Don't have to try.

You're trying mightily and failing. The scale is all wrong. Democratic/leftist resistance to FGM is lip service/cover one's ass at the scale of the crowd size at a soccer game between 5th-graders (in the US!). AVI's original assertions hold and your link to small-scale demonstrations featuring zero Democratic/leftist heavy-hitters just reinforces them.

QUOTE:

The evidence is clear.

You're damn right it is: Democrats/leftists pretend to give a shit about FGM! Spinal Tap sharing the bill with a puppet show level of giving a shit.

QUOTE:

There is an international movement to outlaw the practice, primarily led by women's groups. The battle had largely been won ...

Largely been won?!? It hasn't been defeated in Detroit, let alone in the 3rd-world places Democrats/leftists feign concern regarding!

QUOTE:

... spearheaded by Harry Reid in the 1990s, but the recent court decision has brought it Democrats'/leftists' feigned interest in it back to the fore.

FIFY.

QUOTE:

Bill Carson: Open borders ...

Squirrel!

Nice miss, Rain Men, but unlike pretend opposition to FGM, open borders is something the Democrats/leftists truly believe in.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-25 13:06 (Reply)

Bill Carson: AVI's original assertions hold and your link to small-scale demonstrations featuring zero Democratic/leftist heavy-hitters just reinforces them.

Working to pass a federal law against the practice is exactly the correct scale. Harry Reid spearheaded the effort in the Senate. Patricia Schroeder spearheaded the effort in the House. Nancy Pelosi was a co-sponsor.

#4.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-25 14:13 (Reply)

Yes. It's a third rail, really. There's no gray there, or shouldn't be. Nuance not relevant. There should be giant billboards in certain locales as to the barbarous nature of it. Fit in or leave.

#4.1.1.1.2 XRay on 2018-11-23 20:56 (Reply)

The way to get some traction on this issue would be to have President Trump tweet that he doesn't see why FGM is such a big deal. Then half the country would feel compelled to issue repeated statements on the subject. Campus speakers would be met by crowds of students holding lit candles. There might even be pressure to withdraw foreign aid to countries that practice FGM, or to boycott companies that do business with them.

Otherwise, it's pretty much the silence on the semi-official murder of homosexuals in Moslem countries: it's happening to other people far away, and it's not being done by those terrible Israelis, so who cares?

#4.1.1.1.3 Texan99 on 2018-11-24 01:16 (Reply)

Florida Investigating State’s Democratic Party for Fraud

An honest Media would STOP calling that Lefty Progtard party, the "Democratic" Party and just call them the Democrat Party.

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Glad to see the Zachariel shills/bots/Borg are out today! Their checks from Soros, must have arrived.

#5 b48 on 2018-11-23 12:21 (Reply)

b48: the "Democratic" Party and just call them the Democrat Party.

Democratic and Democrat have the same basic meaning, the former the adjectival form, the latter an ungrammatical nounal form. In any case, "Democratic Party" is a proper noun.

b48: Florida Investigating State’s Democratic Party for Fraud

Doesn't seem like something that would lead to charges, but we'll have to wait and see what the investigation uncovers.

#5.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 12:36 (Reply)

aha, the return of the "it isn't wrong if they haven't been indicted" stanard.

#5.1.1 Christopher B on 2018-11-23 13:26 (Reply)

Aha, the return of the Gasbot's Pedant-O-Rama 16-bit edge card in glorious primary colors.

We still want to know who pays the Gasbot, despite its nimble deflection that its dot-matrix output is freely given.

It sure is. Endlessly. BOring.

#5.1.2 Yet the Gasbot Abides on 2018-11-23 14:06 (Reply)

Christopher B: aha, the return of the "it isn't wrong if they haven't been indicted" stanard.

We never made that claim. Rather, we noted that it doesn't seem like something of note, but that is what the investigation will determine. People should be held accountable if they broke the law.

#5.1.3 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 15:54 (Reply)

"Democrat" is a noun the name of the party. It should be "Socialist Democrats". That would better describe the mordern Democrat party.

"democratic" Adjective; relating to or supporting democracy or its principles. This is NOT what Democrats believe today. It may have been as late as the 60's but now the Democrat's principles are socialist, anarchist, fascist and communist, NOT democratic.

#5.1.4 OneGuy on 2018-11-23 20:32 (Reply)

OneGuy: Democrat" is a noun the name of the party.

No. The name of the party is the "Democratic Party".

OneGuy: the Democrat's principles are socialist, anarchist, fascist and communist, NOT democratic.

Heh. Fascist and anarchist? Stringing together inconsistent adjectives isn't very convincing.

#5.1.4.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-23 20:57 (Reply)

"inconsistent adjectives"

Technically true. And yet the Antifa (an ironic name considering their fascist beliefs and actions) are generally made up of self described left wing anarchist who want to impose a Marxist socialist government on us. Those "inconsistent adjectives" are the result of the left using labels to divide us and to be able to shame/intimidate us and it is just another one of the Alinsky rules for radicals used to create their Marxist utopia.

#5.1.4.1.1 Anon on 2018-11-24 10:51 (Reply)

Anon: And yet the Antifa (an ironic name considering their fascist beliefs and actions) are generally made up of self described left wing anarchist who want to impose a Marxist socialist government on us.

Antifa is a disparate grouping, some are anarchists, some are Marxists, though nearly all are anti-capitalist leftists. They are united in their anti-fascist militancy.

What OneGuy did was ascribe contradictory adjectives to a single entity, rather than saying some within the Democratic Party are fascist, some are anarchist. If he had, we might have addressed the particulars, but his comment was self-refuting, so there was no need.

#5.1.4.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-24 10:57 (Reply)

Antifa is the Democrat party brown shirts and every night is Kristallnacht to them.

#5.1.4.1.1.1.1 Anon on 2018-11-24 20:25 (Reply)

You nailed it: Fascists are perfectly willing to exploit anarchists. But surprisingly, multi-big-brained Zachriel can't seem to connect glaring dots such as those. Perhaps they (plural) pulled several lobes in the Great Pedantry War of 2018, which they fought with themselves and lost decisively.

#5.1.4.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-25 10:44 (Reply)

Bill Carson: Fascists are perfectly willing to exploit anarchists.

Sure. But that's not the claim at issue.

#5.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-25 11:23 (Reply)

It's exactly the claim at issue. Not our fault that you're too ^%$#ing dumb to get it.

#5.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-11-25 12:48 (Reply)

Bill Carson: It's exactly the claim at issue.'

Well, it's your diversion. The point we raised was the self-contradiction in OneGuy's comment.

#5.1.4.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-11-25 14:15 (Reply)

The Fall of the house of Saud article was written in 2003. 15 years ago, we are told, the fall is imminent. What was the point of posting this article?

#6 Mark on 2018-11-23 14:50 (Reply)

“...no presents involved.”

Sadly that’s not quite true.

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/11/23/watch-black-friday-shoppers-swarm-a-victorias-secret-in-chattanooga-to-save-55-on-fleece-hoodies/

#7 Bull on 2018-11-24 05:02 (Reply)

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