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Sunday, November 4. 2018

100 Years Later, The Madness Of Daylight Saving Time Endures

I agree that it is silly. Also, annoying.

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The world should be on unitime: one time, worldwide. No time zones. Instead people should be aware of the sun’s rise and set changing its hour.

However, people seem to prefer going to work at a set hour, then having that hour change over the course of the year.

#1 ErisGuy on 2018-11-04 08:50 (Reply)

Hmmm.... When and where would a day begin and what would be the chronological implications of the beginning (or ending) of that day?

#1.1 mudbug on 2018-11-04 08:59 (Reply)

The system we have of 24 time zones is perfectly good and easy to live and work within. Switching the time forward and back an hour during the year is quite annoying - in that particular nanny-state sort of way. And, as the article says, there's no net benefit of doing so. Why not split the difference by moving the time forward 30 minutes from Standard Time and be done with it?

#2 steve walsh on 2018-11-04 09:32 (Reply)

I second your motion. I've been in favor of the add-thirty-and-forget-it solution for years.

#2.1 OldFert on 2018-11-04 14:03 (Reply)

It all started with Time Zones...

#3 Sam L. on 2018-11-04 09:33 (Reply)

It all started with the railroads, Sam. Seems the trains kept bumping into each other when the RR operated on local times, which were all over the map. When I was coming up in IN in the '30s, people still called it railroad time.

#3.1 BillH on 2018-11-04 09:54 (Reply)

Is IN Indiana, Bill? If so, I was wondering whereabouts?

#3.1.1 feeblemind on 2018-11-04 11:05 (Reply)

Yep, Indiana.

#3.1.1.1 BillH on 2018-11-04 15:33 (Reply)

Railroad time started on the Long Island Railroad because of it's long east-west run so that local apparent time was problematic.

#3.2 JK Brown on 2018-11-04 12:17 (Reply)

The USSR had one time zone: Moscow time. Or so I've read.

#4 Sam L. on 2018-11-04 09:34 (Reply)

... and when I flew around Saudi Arabia in the '50s, local time was set daily by the local muezzins, with each new day starting at sunrise. Thankfully, the aviation sector used a standard time for the whole country. IIRC, Sudan had a similar local time scheme.

#4.1 BillH on 2018-11-04 10:05 (Reply)

Silly or not, I LIKE having longer daylight after work.

#5 jay on 2018-11-04 10:12 (Reply)

YES. My fear is that if we were to abandon DST, we'd do it during the winter months and we'd lose that late sunset in summer. I can't get past the idea that everyone complaining about this is just bitching to hear their own heads rattling.

#5.1 Brother John on 2018-11-04 11:14 (Reply)

I get what you're saying. But would it make as much sense for your boss to have everyone come to work an hour earlier just so you could be under the impression there was an hour more daylight? Sounds silly doesn't it? That is how many of us feel about DST, it's silly. It was created so that the children of farmers who attended school would have more daylight hours to do their chores. Now that is like .1% of the population. Time to end DST.

#5.2 Anon on 2018-11-04 11:29 (Reply)

Daylight Savings Time is not associated with agriculture. It was devised when factories mostly used sunlight illumination. Work time remained the same, but the earlier sun light was not lost in summer months.

#5.2.1 JK Brown on 2018-11-04 12:14 (Reply)

Normally I have trouble adjusting to the change. By coincidence I got up this morning at 3AM to make reservations for camping at a national park (because their web site was being swamped during the day). After I did that I went back to bed and got up normally (not sure even if the clock I was looking at had been changed, my wife changes them and she did say that clock would change automatically). But I have zero effect from it and not sure why. But I would vote to end daylight saving time.

#6 GoneWithTheWind on 2018-11-04 11:23 (Reply)

I'm all for it. I don't understand way we can't eliminate January from the calendar and add an 2nd June in the summer. Those longer summer days are great and the country would be way better off if we had more of them.

#7 jpm on 2018-11-04 11:42 (Reply)

No problem, in my area, on the western edge of the Eastern TZ, we'll just vote to adopt Central time. Screw the 15 degrees centered on the Prime Meridian imposed by "officials". And screw the office dwellers who want to be on the same time as NY and DC.

Of course, those up North will have it worse as their daylight expands more in summer. On the other hand, winter can mean no daylight except during working hours as when I lived in Seattle when I went to work at 8 am in the dark and drove home after 4:30 pm in the waning light.

#8 JK Brown on 2018-11-04 12:29 (Reply)

I spent a year in Indiana when they didn't change the clocks. The sun was up long before I wished to be up, and I found that annoying. Maybe Daylight time all year. (I don't think any kids in this town walk to school.)

#9 BJ on 2018-11-04 12:33 (Reply)

At my home's location, without Daylight Saving Time (DST) the sun would rise before 5:00 from May 6 to July 26 and set no later than 19:34 during that time. I'm happy to trade an hour of daylight while I'm sleeping for an additional hour of daylight in the evening. Further, if DST were in effect year-round, the sun wouldn't rise until after 8:00 from November 26 to February 12. and still set no later than 18:37 during that time. I'd rather have some morning light before work than evening light when I'm not going to be outside very much anyway. I support continuing DST.

#10 Michael R. Kesti on 2018-11-04 12:35 (Reply)

In Bermuda, they don't (or didn't, when I was there long ago) change the clocks. But most businesses observed "Summer Hours" when they started an hour earlier each morning, and closed an hour earlier.

#10.1 Ken Mitchell (Link) on 2018-11-04 15:56 (Reply)

DST should be fluid like gender. The time is whatever I think it is. I should be able to get up early and have the sun at noon level (come to think of it that is what happens to people who smoke pot). I should be able to go to McDonalds after noon and order breakfast. Oh, wait! I already can.

#11 OneGuy on 2018-11-04 14:18 (Reply)

This is yuge !
https://twitter.com/SavingAmerica4U/status/1028370191045079040/video/1

#12 Anon on 2018-11-04 15:25 (Reply)

I saw a great editorial cartoon many years ago. Richard Nixon in a rocking chair, saying "I'm going to make this blanket longer, by cutting a foot off at one end, and sewing it on the other end."

#13 Ken Mitchell (Link) on 2018-11-04 15:53 (Reply)

I would like to see that!
Makes the point simply.

#13.1 Papa on 2018-11-06 09:17 (Reply)

Maine and New Hampshire have voted to leave the Eastern Time Zone and shift to the the Atlantic Time Zone, which would have the same effect as being on DST all the time. However, that change is dependent upon Massachusetts voting to do likewise.

Being at the extreme eastern side of the Eastern Time Zone means sunset in December is as early as 4PM in Portland, Maine. It will be even earlier places like Presque Isle.

DST lasts 8 months and Standard Time lasts only 4 months. It seems stupid to make that shift for only 4 months. Better to stay in DST (at least for some of us in New England) than going through the bother of changing the clocks in November and March.

#14 DCE (Link) on 2018-11-05 08:23 (Reply)

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Sunday, November 4. 2018

100 Years Later, The Madness Of Daylight Saving Time Endures