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Tuesday, July 31. 2018‘Toxic masculine’ values arm you for the unforgiving trials of life in a society in which nothing is given and everything must be fought forEver heard a feminist woman say that she is looking for a low-energy guy who can't hold a job, make his own goddam sandwich, or defend the family with force, if needed? It quotes Paglia:
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Seems like it is time for the man to Shrug off the yoke of, ‘The women’s movement', because it is a pile of movement.
Let them see how far they get with out men doing anything in this world that men do. Like pump gas into the car, or take out the garbage. I'll make my Own sandwich!!! Heltau The annual fire season is upon us in California. Right now there are major fires in different parts of the state. There will be more.
I doubt that many people whose homes are threatened really think too much about excessive masculinity. They are thankful. Those outside the fire zones may have different attitudes. Once the fire season is over, many of those who admire them now, will move on. Oh, I know that there are women fire fighters--bless them. But, like in the infantry, they are rare, and those who are included don't always go where they would routinely stare death in the eye. A few years ago a snowstorm wiped out power for a lot of people in eastern Pa. Guys with trucks from as far away as Ohio came down the road in convoy, fixing as they went. The level of organization and skill was quite admirable. Nice guys with a job to get done. These are the kind of men that keep the world running. Not an urban fem-bow in sight. Paglia has her own weirdness, but on this subject, she is dead right.
Oldblood -
If you have not yet seen the 60-90 minute dialogue between Jordan Peterson and Camille Paglia, do yourself a favor and YouTube it. It is extraordinary. I’ve watched it twice. You are right - she is an odd sort of person but I love that about her. And I admire her for standing up for what is so obviously true. Few in her field do that these days. She is a fighter. I can tell she likes and admires men. That alone is something these days. Deana I have the thought that there should be plaques (or at least stickers surreptitiously placed) on bridges, highways, airplanes, airports, buildings, boats "This skyscraper designed and executed by the patriarchy." I do regret the implied minimizing of female contributions to those things - it's not like none of them ever did anything - but enough is enough. The obvious must be stated occasionally.
I don't know how to mark a trade network or the internet. The ignoring of these and many other contributions can only occur among a people who now take these things for granted, having never tried to make them themselves. I agree entirely about valuing masculinity, and feel the same way about capitalists--but why denigrate emotional awareness? A lot of different things can be valuable all at once. Don't make the same mistake a silly, myopic "feminist" does. Men who think the only way to be strong is to be emotional unaware don't turn out to be very strong, just as women who think the only way to be nurturing is to denigrate strength aren't very nurturing.
Explain "emotional unaware". It sounds like you are aking people to be who they are not. I would guess that emotional awareness is an excessive concern/worry about what others think. Why should I care? Should I become an emotional mess unable to function by spending my time worrying about what others think? It would appear to me that the "doers" in this world are those who you would label emotionally unaware and the hangers on/slackers are the ones who complain all the time and are "emotionally aware".
and please define toxic masculinity.
by all appearances we have let the left make up all manner of words and define the arguments: cisgender, homophobic, microaggressions, white supremacist etc. etc. I heard something different in the term "emotional awareness." I first thought of it as reading the room, which leaders, salesmen, and many others do, or noticing the expressions of others and learning to not be unnecessarily rude. I saw it as a general positive, subject to being over-emphasised, and wondered what O'Neill thought was wrong with it. Reading the article, I think O'Neill is accepting and riffing off Robert Webb's definition of "emotional awareness," and rejecting it. Well he might. Webb seems to mean an awareness of his own emotions 24/7, with little room for anyone else. Egad. One shudders to contemplate reading more than a paragraph or two.
"All it will take is one natural disaster to prove how wrong that is."
A natural disaster or a man-made one like 9-11. It was the men (firefighters) mostly who ran UP the stairs while officer workers were coming down. It was the police (men mostly, but some women as well) who were aiding people to get to safety that day. It was male office workers who helped to carry others down the stairs when they couldn't walk (I'm not saying women wouldn't have; but, seriously men ARE stronger). And finally, it was mostly men who went off to that godforsaken area of the world to wage war against those who dared to murder innocent people that day. As is often the case with ambiguous concepts, I take a simpler view of the concept of "emotional awareness". To me it means to simply understand your self and what is driving your actions. So, in that context emotional awareness is not unique to any particular group, nor should anyone expect it to be.
As an octogenarian, I am constantly reminded by the women in my life that there are things I should not, or cannot, do. Almost anything involving ladders, for instance. I rebel. I am emotionally aware; I know why I rebel. In part it is a stubborn refusal to surrender more than absolutely necessary to age related infirmity. Of course, as is often the case, the emotional component compliments the utilitarian motive of completing a task when there is no one else at hand. |