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Friday, July 6. 2018
Why do people with any fat stores ever feel hungry, or eat anything at all, considering they may have 1-5 month's worth of energy stored as fat? (We term the hunger experienced by overweight people "False Hunger," because it is.) Except in the truly malnourished or extremely fit, low body-fat athletes, hunger is rarely a signal of an energy deficit or of any nutritional need.
Think about it. Even normal-weight (neither overweight nor underweight) people carry 8-10 weeks of energy stored in fat if they can only access it.
You can consider appetite in the pudgy or overweight, not to mention the obese, to be a design flaw based on the hunting and gathering, and, earlier, just plain gathering condition of human existence, same as the other great apes who only become overweight in captivity. Agriculture and food abundance, along with sedentary life, exposed the design flaw for people who overnourish themselves. Of course, physical inadequacy is another side effect.
Here are a few issues (below) -
1. As an individual begins to become heavy from eating in excess of their needs, they develop insulin resistance meaning their insulin levels rarely drop to normal fasting levels. Higher and longer-lasting post-eating insulin levels prevent fat-burning and enhance fat storage. That's why heavy people often feel weak or woozy and want a snack, a dose of sugar/carbs, or even an unnecessary meal: their elevated insulin prevents them from access to fat-burning. They feel "hypoglycemic" and feel they need food. Thus the fat cycle is perpetuated.
2. Fit, trim people do not have elevated insulin except for a brief time after eating. Thus their bodies quickly enter a "fasting" state, and have access to fat stores for energy. In normal "fed" situations, our energy sources are blood glucose (from carbs), and glycogen (stored sugar) in the liver and in muscle. These are limited, though.
3. Exercise: Exercise is a poor way to access fat-burning, but it can occur to some extent. It takes around 40 minutes of good-intensity calisthenics or cardio to exhaust your immediate sugar stores (glycogen) and to force some fat-burn. People often feel fatigue at that point, and especially high-insulin people because their body resists burning fat. The good news: intense exercise reduces appetite and ramps up your metabolism for an hour so more afterwards.
4. Another interesting factor is Leptin, the major satiety hormone. Heavy people develop Leptin-resistance and become less aware of when enough is enough, and "pleasure-eating" kicks in. Another Leptin-related issue is that many heavy people are voracious eaters, "speed-eaters" as it is termed. Speed-eaters defeat Leptin effects by stuffing themselves before Leptin kicks in. Generally speaking, eating "until full" or until "I'm stuffed" is a foolish idea. Good idea: "That's all I need."
5. Expanded stomach (not belly, stomach). Habitual excess eating results in a stretched stomach like Joey Chestnut's. This also delays the satiety response. Only small-volume meals can repair this.
6. Habit/life style. Many Americans were taught that they need 3 square meals daily. Try that, and see how pudgy you become. That's a hold-over from when people actually worked all day in the fields or factories. Unless you are in the growing phase, doing 8 hours of heavy labor each day, or pursuing serious fitness or athletic prowess, that is nonsense in my opinion. If overweight, it is double nonsense. A waste of food and money too.
7. To re-set your insulin response, a person has to lose fat by fasting longer. An alternative for those less temptation-resistant is to trick your body with low-carb, high-fat foods. Things like a steak salad. Fat does not stimulate insulin, but offers good satiety. Our attitude is that, if you have spare lard, feeling hunger is the happy sign that you are burning fat rather than a signal that nutrition is needed. To burn lard, embrace that feeling and tough it out.
Yes, I do understand that it's fun to eat food. It's called "recreational eating" or "pleasure eating." I love it too, occasionally, as a special treat. I would weigh 200 lbs. on a routine "See Food" or pleasure-eating plan. Good food is yummy.
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I can testify. Fasting between 16 and 20 hours every day has brought my blood glucose into near normal fasting ranges and appetite levels are only very light during a long fast. Not to mention the increased satiety from eating higher amounts of fat. My A1c was above 7 and it is now 6.1
So either God or Mother Nature never anticipated that every day could be a feast day, without 8 hours of physical effort.
On the other hand, God or Mother Nature offered us a brain with consciousness too. We can use that for our well-being if we want to.
I get a kick out of some people's values. The obsessive pursuits, the fervor and signalling, the ersatz principle and character, the few hour religion.
I wonder if they have an inclination to explore even one out of the thousands and thousands of the options they do not know exist.
The examples thereof are like leaves on the trees. https://twitter.com/wrathofgnon/status/932746386075873280
This sure seems to me evidence that God or any other designer of us, if one is out there, is not very competent and/or doesn't like us very much.
Still, it also seems to me to point to a cure that medicine ought to pursue. Give us the means to make items 2 and 4 no longer true chemically by taking a pill or having a patch installed. Voila!
I believe those who would resist this idea because "no pain, no gain" are misguided. If "god" had our best interests in mind he would not create traps like this for us.
Obese people, not the BMI definition of obese but someone who weighs in excess of 300-400 lbs, has an illness. They can no more prevent it than someone with MS or Lupas. You and I do not have that illness and our weight is fine or at least manageable and we cannot comprehend their problem. So clearly it must be that they are gluttons and don't care how they look. I have never met an obese person who wants to be obese. Without exception they desperately want to be normal.
If you are obese and if you can stay on a starvation diet for a year or two you can reach a more or less normal weight. If you can then maintain a "near" starvation diet you may be able to keep the weight from coming back. This is not easy to do and is literally suffering that equals torture. Obese people are not simply lazy glutons they are genetically predetermined to be obese and it is incorrect to believe all they need to do is eat like you and I do.
More accurate to consider obesity (and ordinary overweight too) a condition rather than a single, specific disease.
Fact is, anybody can become obese if they put in the effort.
I respectfully disagree that anyone can become obese. At least not the obesity as I define it. My sister in law is 5'2" and weighs 450+. She is obese. Her husband is 5'11' and weighs 245. He is not obese. I am 6'2" about 215 and I don't think I could get to 450 lbs if someone offered me a million dollars to do it. I could most likely get to the BMI definition of obese but because of my build I wouldn't even look fat. The variation in humans is quite large and it simply makes no sense to try to apply one standard, such as BMI.
We use body fat %, not BMI, to determine extent of overweight
The point about the BMI is that their threshold for "obesity" is quite low. Half the professional athletes in America would be obese under the BMI. So while body fat % would be an improvement it still comes down to; is the person actually "obese" or did they simply pass some artificial threshold.
This article is so helpful! I had a couple of Ah-Ha's while reading the 7 points. Our brains are fascinating--they work for us and sometimes, in my opinion, against us. They love to try and send us down the sugar-pathway, if we seem willing to go. I struggle with this issue but make efforts to eat intelligently much of the time. Thanks for the article.