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Tuesday, June 12. 2018

DeNiro and Hollywood

Why the hatred?  Is it fashion, is it about personality style, or is it about policy?


Hatred is ugly. If it's about policy, I'd like to know what these people object to with their megaphones, not that their opinions deserve to be of any more interest than my own are. 


As I recall, many of my pals hated Obama's policies, but never had a visceral hatred for the man himself.  I'd gladly have a beer or two with Obama anytime because I think he is a clever bullshitter. Glib clever bullshitters amuse me.


Also,  Robert De Niro Just Handed Trump’s 2020 Campaign A Blank Check


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When emotions are all you have to judge by --'If it feels good, do it.' -- anger and hate are the strongest emotions. When others are the cause of all your problems,-- anger and hate are your strongest emotions. This downward spiral leaves one helpless and angry and out of options but violence.
#1 Blick on 2018-06-12 15:59 (Reply)
I like the angry idea. He's probably mostly angry that his Tribe came that .. close to being In. Charge. Permanently.
#1.1 Christopher B on 2018-06-12 16:38 (Reply)
Indeed. They loved Trump when he was their b*stard.
#1.1.1 Don on 2018-06-13 01:46 (Reply)
DeNiro, like De Caprio, is a high school dropout who does not know anything but thinks saying his lines makes him intelligent.
I like some of his movies, like Casino, but his good movies were decades ago.
#2 Mike K (Link) on 2018-06-12 16:02 (Reply)
DeNiro is just one of the empty pretenders giving a speech at the Best Pretender Awards. If he did not have a pretend script on a pretend set on which to pretend he is somebody, he would be an empty nobody.
#3 Blick on 2018-06-12 16:03 (Reply)
Speak to us of morals, Bobby.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/the-sex-scandal-that-wouldnt-lie-down-1185127.html
#4 drowningpuppies on 2018-06-12 16:17 (Reply)
Exactly. Something to hide, Bobby?

https://i.imgur.com/3P31I2B.jpg

Judging from how scared DeNiro looks here, it seems like he might be worried about investigators from the Justice Department rather than some #metoo activists showing up at his door...
#4.1 JM01 on 2018-06-12 16:31 (Reply)
AS my father would explain to me: "I grew up around Italians. That's just how they talk, since they have no brains. And besides, they're all mommas' boys!"
#4.1.1 B48 (Link) on 2018-06-12 22:44 (Reply)
Isn't he just the bravest, speaking truth to power like that?

I assume the crowd booed him off the stage, chased him out of the building and was screaming he'd never work in this town again. That is what happened, right?

Then if not, why is anybody cheering him? It's gutless.
#5 Jablonski on 2018-06-12 16:43 (Reply)
Poor old guy. It used to be that most people knew to give an old coot in his cups a wide berth.
#6 Exasperated (Link) on 2018-06-12 16:50 (Reply)
Turns out he wasn't acting in "Taxi Driver"
#7 Oldblood on 2018-06-12 17:04 (Reply)
Why the hatred? Is it fashion, is it about personality style, or is it about policy?

Trump is a showman, a style very compatible with Hollywood. It's not personality style.
Those Hollywood clowns couldn't identify a policy if a policy whacked them upside the head.

It's fashion.

As I haven't paid for a movie ticket in years, and my last DVD purchase was 6 old Hollywood movies for $5 out of a WalMart bin, I can't much change my spending habits to hurt Hollywood.
#8 Gringo on 2018-06-12 18:08 (Reply)
#9 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-12 18:31 (Reply)
Eh. didn't Embed. Pity. Explains everything in a minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI851yJUQQw
#10 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-12 18:32 (Reply)
I love hakas. Here's one of my favorites. Go all the way to the end.

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=mcafee&p=royal+tongan+haka#id=1&vid=12a4f002c460ea6e79e7edad2ca12bbd&action=click
#10.1 Exasperated (Link) on 2018-06-12 20:19 (Reply)
Very nice
#10.1.1 Mike (Link) on 2018-06-12 23:55 (Reply)
Thanks for the Haka, I love them too. I used to watch Rugby with my Father and this brings back some happy memories. I enjoyed the Anglican (Church of England) Our Father at the end.
#10.1.2 dianainsa on 2018-06-13 19:42 (Reply)
I'd gladly have a beer or two with Obama anytime because I think he is a clever bullshitter. Glib clever bullshitters amuse me.

I would take issue with that.

0bama is a BS artist, to be sure . . . but only if it is scripted, as in he can read it from a teleprompter.

He's not so good at it if he has to improvise.
#11 feeblemind on 2018-06-12 19:32 (Reply)
I agree. I wouldn't enjoy being around someone who openly loathes people like me (he says I cling to guns and God).

I was going to come here and point out how weird it would be if an entire industry had openly insulted and threatened Obama the way that the entertainment industry has done Trump. I can't wrap my brain around that happening.
#11.1 Dangerous Dean on 2018-06-12 21:02 (Reply)
Thank you DeNiro. Thanks to everyone in the crowd. I prefer honesty to backstabbing and sabotage. Please keep exposing your biases and agenda.

Et tu DeNiro.
#12 Anon on 2018-06-12 19:43 (Reply)
Trump sure does get inside their OODA loops, so that they are left flailing and shaking their fists in the air.
#13 Exasperated on 2018-06-13 06:02 (Reply)
No, wouldn't have a beer with Obama. If he were being thrashed to a pulp, I'd have to ascertain the assailant's motivation before determining whether to intervene.
#14 LWS on 2018-06-13 07:29 (Reply)
The News Junkie: As I recall, many of my pals hated Obama's policies, but never had a visceral hatred for the man himself.

Don't get out much, do you?
#15 Zachriel on 2018-06-13 10:32 (Reply)
another attempt to muddy the water by you and your minions.

It is a big difference to hate Obama's actions rather than hating the man. I don't think many of those of us on the right hated the man at all. I listed some of my differences with him on policy further up the thread. At no point did I ever say I wanted him dead. Do you need me to link you some of your people on the left wanting Trump to die? Or are you willing to concede that your side has a deranged hatred for our duly elected president?
#15.1 Dangerous Dean on 2018-06-13 10:54 (Reply)
Dangerous Dean: Do you need me to link you some of your people on the left wanting Trump to die?

Whatabout!

Dangerous Dean: It is a big difference to hate Obama's actions rather than hating the man.

If you don't think there was a visceral hatred of Obama when he was in office, then you weren't paying attention.
#15.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-06-13 11:05 (Reply)
None of the many who hate Obama hate him because he's competent.
#15.1.1.1 Bill Carson on 2018-06-13 13:25 (Reply)
If you don't think there was a visceral hatred of Obama when he was in office, then you weren't paying attention.

From Donald Trump in music, here are some songs with some visceral hatred of Donald Trump.

QUOTE:
2015–2016, during Trump's presidential race and election
"El Chapo" by The Game (2015): "This is goons day, I can have Guadalupe / Come through and knock Donald Trump out his toupee"[21]
"Dats It Fa Ya" by DJ Paul & Juicy J (2015): "On that presidential skunk, that's that Donald Trump"

"Free Enterprises" by Rick Ross (2015): "Assassinate Trump like I'm Zimmerman"[2]

"FDT" YG & Nipsey Hussle (2016): "Fuck Donald Trump"[2]
"Bad Boy on Death Row" by Dave East (2016): "Donald Trump ain't safe on my block, gotcha your wifey at IHOP"[2]
"Nobody Speak" by DJ Shadow featuring Run the Jewels (2016): "Flame your crew quicker than Trump fucks his youngest" [2]

"Viva Presidente Trump" by Brujeria (2016)[33] . From the link:Mexican-American metal band Brujería joins the anti-Trump movement with new song "Viva Presidente Trump," released today (May 13) on digital platforms. The band is currently showcasing in South America with their tour "Fu** Donald Trump."

2017-18
"Rockabye Baby" by Joey Badass: "Time is running up, feel the burn in my gut / And if you got the guts, scream, 'Fuck Donald Trump'"[37]

"Free Steven Avery (Wrong America)" by Cabbage: "Death to Donald Trump/ Death to Donald Trump/ There's something about politics in America/ Death to Donald Trump/ Death to Donald Trump/ There's something about politics in America..."[41]


Please find us the songs with an equivalent amount of visceral hatred of Barack Obama. Inquiring minds want to know.
#15.2 Gringo on 2018-06-13 13:32 (Reply)
From the Donald Trump in music link: "El Presidente" by Gwar (citation needed)

If citation is what you need, citation is what you get: El Presidente_GWAR
QUOTE:
I want to kill the president and I don't need a gun
I want to fuck the government, I want to fuck a nun
I want to paint the world in blood and pave the streets in bone
The killing won't come to an end until I take the throne.....

ou will serve them no more
El Presidente and his whore
They will die by my sword
All will bow.
Say no more, as Monty Python once told us.
#15.2.1 Gringo on 2018-06-13 13:56 (Reply)
Gringo: here are some songs with some visceral hatred of Donald Trump.

Whatabout!

Gringo: Please find us the songs with an equivalent amount of visceral hatred of Barack Obama.

While the right is not normally characterized by the quality of its protest music, you could just google videos for "f*ck Obama" and get a plethora of anti-Obama songs and rants.

QUOTE:
Donald Trump, Republican president, Obama "is the founder of ISIS".

Roy Moore, endorsed for Senate by Republican president, "Obama-Clinton Machine, Forces of Evil" trying to silence him.

Ben Shapiro, writer and frequent Fox News pundit, "Obama was an evil traitor to America".

Robert Spencer, frequent Fox News pundit, "Obama's Treason: Even worse than we thought."

Donald Trump, Republican president, "An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud.”

Ted Nugent, friend of Trump, "Obama, he's a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun. Hey Hillary," "You might want to ride one of these into the sunset, you worthless bitch."

Barack Obama, former President, "People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love."


Bill Carson: None of the many who hate Obama hate him because he's competent.

At least Bill Carson addressed the topic. Yes, there are people on the right who hate the secret Muslim, Kenyan usurper, intent on destroying America.
#15.2.2 Zachriel on 2018-06-13 14:10 (Reply)
Gringo:Please find us the songs with an equivalent amount of visceral hatred of Barack Obama.

Z-Team :While the right is not normally characterized by the quality of its protest music..

Your not being aware of those songs doesn't mean they don't exist. Ray Stevens's Mr. President does a rather good - and widely viewed- job of protesting President Obama's policies. Note that it does so without the "Fuck..kill the President" level of the songs I cited. Ray Stevens is apparently more literate than the anti-Trump songwriters I cited.

Also note that the songs I cited, all but one had some obscenity or violence directed at Trump. Exception: the one that merely called Trump a skunk. Of the SPEAKERS you cited, only Ted Nugent directed some obscenity directed at Obama. None directed violence towards Obama.

you could just google videos for "f*ck Obama" and get a plethora of anti-Obama songs and rants.

Funny thing; Google video hits on "fuck trump": 8.3 million.
Google video hits on "fuck obama." 1.3 million hits.

So why have YOU not been able to show us equivalent songs with visceral hatred of Obama?

Conclusion: you cannot find any equivalent songs.
You concede my point.
#15.2.2.1 Gringo on 2018-06-13 14:40 (Reply)
Thread topic: Robert DeNiro drops F word on Trump.
Z-Team:with no documentation.
QUOTE:
If you don't think there was a visceral hatred of Obama when he was in office, then you weren't paying attention.

Gringo W LINK
QUOTE:
here are some songs with some visceral hatred of Donald Trump.


ZTeam
QUOTE:
Whatabout!


When the original topic of the thread was visceral hatred of Trump, as shown by DeNiro's rant, I fail to see how my well-documented examples of visceral hatred of Trump is "whataboutism."

Which is why you merit unmitigated contempt.
Andate, pues
Ciao.
#15.2.2.2 Gringo on 2018-06-13 15:06 (Reply)
Gringo: Thread topic: Robert DeNiro drops F word on Trump.

Yes. However, this is the claim in the original post of which we took note: "As I recall, many of my pals hated Obama's policies, but never had a visceral hatred for the man himself." While we can't speak to The News Junkie's personal experience, one would have to have not been paying attention not to notice the visceral hatred many people on the political right expressed for Obama. Gee whiz. The President-to-be claimed that Obama was a foreign usurper.

Gringo: Google video hits on "fuck obama." 1.3 million hits

Proving the point that significant numbers of people on the political right "had a visceral hatred for the man himself."
#15.2.2.3 Zachriel on 2018-06-13 16:40 (Reply)
Actually, it doesn't prove anything of the sort.

Anger is not always visceral hatred. I scrolled through a few pages of those links and they do not all go to sites expressing that sentiment. Some go to liberals angry at Obama for not going after his opponents hard enough. Some go to selling merchandise. Some go to multiple news stories about single incidents.

Some people may indeed have visceral hatred of Obama. As visceral means of the feelings, exclusive of the intellect, you have provided only spotty, often ambiguous evidence for that. People can be very angry for fully intellectual reasons.

For a comparison from Truman through Obama, note that it is Democrats who seem particularly unwilling to give a Republican president a chance, while at least some Republicans are willing to give new Democratic presidents a chance. https://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/2017/02/approval-ratings.html
#15.2.2.3.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-06-13 17:50 (Reply)
Assistant Village Idiot: Anger is not always visceral hatred.

No, but these sentiments, as noted above, are not just anger over policy, but speak of contempt for the person:

f*ck you
evil
evil traitor
treasonous
foreign usurper
piece of sh!t
#15.2.2.3.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-06-14 08:27 (Reply)
Or you could just read some of the comments on this forum.

Just posted on another thread: "bucktooth, faggot-faced, Communist street protester rammed his tongue up Raul Castro's anus? Did they freak out or call it wisdom? Leftists are the scum of this earth. Pretending they aren't sub-human is the first habit to break. They are vermin."
#15.2.2.3.1.2 Zachriel on 2018-06-14 09:18 (Reply)
Zzzzz: While we can't speak to The News Junkie's personal experience,...

But you did, kiddiez.
#15.2.2.3.2 drowningpuppies on 2018-06-13 18:02 (Reply)
DeNiro: mentally disturbed and not very bright.
#16 steve walsh on 2018-06-13 12:11 (Reply)
The irony here is that De Niro seems like a "wannabe-Trump":

He's full of braggadocio (though Trump doesn't stoop to routinely peppering his statements with foul language).

He's intimately involved in high-flying real estate developments through his company, Nobu Hospitality.

Also, he’s an actor (and like all actors, he loves an adoring audience).

So perhaps some of his ridiculous bile stems from plain old-fashioned envy?
#17 JJM on 2018-06-13 13:20 (Reply)
Oooooh, bingo! I think you hit a chord!
#17.1 jma on 2018-06-13 22:13 (Reply)

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