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Monday, May 21. 2018

More good news

Under Trump, Job Market Optimism at Highest Point Ever Recorded


Anybody who wants to work, can work. Jobs are going begging in this economy. 

Posted by The News Junkie in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 15:49 | Comments (19) | Trackbacks (0)

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"Anybody who wants to work, can work."

... unless you work in IT, where you can't get a job with a gun if you don't have the desired experience in your resume.
#1 wolfwalker on 2018-05-21 16:10 (Reply)
I think it is fair to note that a generalised good job market does not mean that every sector is booming. Similarly, sometimes a few sectors will do well in a bad market.

What do you think the future is, wolfwalker? Is it time to get out, or is this temporary? Is this related to outsourcing or immigration? Will this change?
#1.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-05-21 17:03 (Reply)
AVI
I wouldn't be learning to code, as the current phrase goes, which was the traditional entry into IT. Coding is headed either into the hardware (microcode) as an enginering discipline or a combination of low rent API jockeys from India and AI. Get a traditional business degree with an emphasis on project management and some experience with VB or JAVA so you understand the basics of how a system functions.

There will always be a need for people who can manage/administor and design computer systems but the days of code jockeys are behind us.
#1.1.1 Christopher B on 2018-05-21 21:21 (Reply)
Agreed. If you want an IT job IN AMERICA, you have to have skills that cannot be done on a Webex session from India. You need skills with hardware, cabling, networking. You need a jobin which at least 25% of your time is onsite, placing your hands upon the hardware.

Most programming, database design, and web design is going to be done my somebody whose first language is not English. And in the case of Indians, while they may be able to read and write in English, they often cannot SPEAK the language even if they understand it.

I ran into a case a couple of years ago; I was onsite troubleshooting the customer's document management system and I needed support from the vendor, EMC. Their "support" was based in Mumbai, and we were on a Webex session while he TRIED to explain what he was doing. But the guy I was working with couldn't speak English to save his life. So I hung up the phone, opened a chat window and typed "Sorry, but my cell phone just died. Can we go on like this?" He typed back "Of course!" and off we went. And as a bonus, I saved the chat session as a text file....
#1.1.1.1 Ken Mitchell on 2018-05-21 21:56 (Reply)
Damn it. They warned us if we elected a guy with no government or political experience.
#2 JK Brown on 2018-05-21 16:25 (Reply)
We elected a guy who made his money in real estate. Stands to reason that he'd create jobs in the construction trades.
#2.1 Ken Mitchell on 2018-05-21 21:16 (Reply)
A perfect time to end welfare.
#3 GoneWithTheWind on 2018-05-21 19:14 (Reply)
"Anybody who wants to work, can work. Jobs are going begging in this economy. "

Not entirely. They want somebody who can actually DO STUFF, not fine arts majors who expect to get 100K for working as a barista. Anybody who is willing to learn plumbing, or carpentry, or roofing, or any of the "skilled trades" that don't require a degree, and are willing to get their hands dirty.... THOSE are the jobs that are going begging.
#4 Ken Mitchell on 2018-05-21 21:14 (Reply)
Science and engineering are hard and most don’t do hard. So there is your ticket if you’ve got the “right stuff”...apologies to Thomas Wolfe”. It does pay off.
#5 rocdoctom on 2018-05-21 22:05 (Reply)
Not all of those jobs are all they're cracked up to be. A couple of manufacturers in Wisconsin are having trouble recruiting--but they don't pay well and you have to relocate: $$ you can't always afford from low-paying jobs. You can manage on low pay if you've a support network, but that's not trivial to arrange.
#6 James the lesser (Link) on 2018-05-21 23:20 (Reply)
Looks like part of the Obama expansion, with confidence starting to be regained in 2012. Since then, the trend has been roughly linear.
#7 Zachriel on 2018-05-22 09:42 (Reply)
I notice that your email from the DNC doesn't plot the economy against when each Congress takes office.

The 2006 election collapsed the economy by its actions in 2007, because the Democrats refused to regulate either mortgages or complex derivatives. The big drivers attempting that for years were John Sununu, John McCain (yes, credit where credit is due), and George Bush.

Who were the big names opposed to those measures? Anyone? I don't want to keep seeing the same hands here.
#7.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-05-22 09:55 (Reply)
Assistant Village Idiot: I notice that your email from the DNC doesn't plot the economy against when each Congress takes office.

Email from the DNC? We linked to a graph from Gallup showing the historical data on the survey that underlies the original post.

Assistant Village Idiot: The 2006 election collapsed the economy by its actions in 2007, because the Democrats refused to regulate either mortgages or complex derivatives.

You seem to be changing subjects. In any case, the market bubble was already fully loaded in 2006.
#7.1.1 Zachriel on 2018-05-22 10:11 (Reply)
Let's ignore Quantitative Easing by the Fed (which he had no control over) and fracking by the oil industry (which he tried to stop) and try to claim Obama's economic policies expanded the American economy.

How about it, kiddiez?
Wanna try?
#7.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2018-05-22 11:51 (Reply)
Precisely. If the Clattering Site Robot(s) ever overlaid QE - in all its many magnificent, progressive, Baraq-saving guises - onto one of it(s) simplistic indicators it'd(s) blow a gallium oxide semi-frappus(s) and have to be unplugged for repairs.

And if it(s) overlaid the great unwinding thereof onto the Present Occupant's present occupancy, well, it'd(s) be retired to a heap out in the Ort Cloud.

To that point, you have to give Trump enormous props for withstanding that vicious headwind alone, not that Clattering Site Robot(s) can be expected to have such comprehension(s). It's a wonder The Donald has any hair at all...or that Baraq hasn't had the honor to disappear entirely.
#7.1.1.1.1 Meh on 2018-05-22 12:07 (Reply)
You could even say that Baraq O'Berry's reign was one largely if not entirely enabled by casino banking. https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2013/03/Fed%20vs%20S%26P.jpg
#7.1.1.1.2 Meh on 2018-05-22 12:13 (Reply)
And the U.S. oil industry...
The Real Hockey Stick
https://d1o9e4un86hhpc.cloudfront.net/images/tinymce/Nieuwe%20afbeelding%20(6).png
#7.1.1.1.2.1 drowningpuppies on 2018-05-22 13:20 (Reply)
The Clattering Site Robot(s) on the economy is like, well, the Clattering Site Robot(s) on nearly anything.

Propagandistically wrong.

Like how it(s) cites the housing bubble and the unchecked return to casino banking as Baraq Obama's Great Economic Chops.

It's been programmed not to respond to me because its programmers know that where economic statistics and phenomena go, I can blow it out nineteen ways to Sunday.
#7.1.2 Meh on 2018-05-22 10:46 (Reply)
Nobody's claiming anyone can get the ideal job he's always wanted, only that no one need be completely unemployed if he wants to work.
#8 Texan99 on 2018-05-22 10:11 (Reply)

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