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How Can People Who Don’t Think Trump Is Truthful Still Support Him?

The article gets it right, I believe. You can dislike Trump, disapprove of everything about the guy, but still approve of the things he and his admin are doing.

As I say, if politicians are supposed to be role models then the country has been in trouble for centuries.

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That's because I, and I suppose you, care about what these guys do, not so much what they say. This has been true with every president in my adulthood (back to Carter).

#1 steve walsh on 2018-05-02 13:45 (Reply)

What is the saying, "the middle takes him seriously but not literally, and the dopes take him literally but not seriously. It isn't about Trump personally; it never was. It is about the middle, the folks who were tired of being kr@pped on. They, apparently, can discern between bombastic theater, aka marketing and reality.

#2 Exasperated on 2018-05-02 13:48 (Reply)

I tend to agree with Steve. Trump is a difference in kind, not degree, in that he's probably more transparent and unartful about it. To take one example, does anybody really believe that Obama and Hillary were actually opposed to the advancement of gay marriage before Obergefeld made it a moot point? And is that more or less consequential than blustering about the attendance at the Inauguration? After reading all of the 'lied us into war' stories, do you really believe that GWB actually knew Iraq had no WMD but chose to advance that reasoning anyway (Glenn Reynolds used to post a long stream of YouTube clips of Democrats talking about Iraq's WMD programs). The definition of 'lying' that people use is often quite slippery. Real or imagined ambiguities are interpreted unfavorably. A 'should have known' standard is applied retroactively. The importance of exceptions to generalizations is over emphasized. I don't claim to find Trump any more truthful than the average politician but I certainly don't find him less, either.

#3 Christopher B on 2018-05-02 14:33 (Reply)

For me it was - "I've got two alternatives here."

Clinton was a known unacceptable, to coin a phrase. After her email server issues, no way in hell was I going to vote for her. She was pissing on us and the media was saying it was raining gold.

Trump? At least he'd at least done something with his life other than spend it in politics - and had quite a few successes to show for it. And to be honest, he's done a lot more than most of our political 'elite' combined.

Third party vote? Hell, no. One of the two main candidates was going to win. I voted for Trump because he wasn't Hillary - and so far I've been VERY pleased with the things he's done.

#4 JLawson on 2018-05-02 14:54 (Reply)

Trump has indeed done a good job of not being Hillary.

#4.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2018-05-02 15:53 (Reply)

DJT owes no one. Not a damn thing. So he is free to do what he wants. So far, he is interested in improvement. Trade, immigration, taxes.
He is NOT a politician. That's why I voted for him, and will again. Thats why the MSM, and the left, are tripping over each other trying to stop him.
He's effective, bombastic, and is breaking a lot of rice bowls. Good. More please.

#5 Jim on 2018-05-02 15:01 (Reply)

I voted for Trump BECAUSE he was Trump. He has "a way about him" that suggests he will stick by the average guy on the streets through thick and thin.

The photos of him totally engaged and sitting on the little benches with the children during Easter, or interacting with Macron on multiple occasions without embarrassing him, or suggesting the meeting with North and South Korea take place at the very symbolic Peace House -- he works hard to know his audience and put them in a safe place without giving up the unique place held by the U.S.

So far, he respects us. Can't say that many others in leadership positions -- our Congresscritters, our judges, the enormous bureaucracy that pains our every waking hour -- care a whit about the people who pay them.

#6 jma on 2018-05-02 15:38 (Reply)

To my eternal shame I voted for Jimmy Carter. My excuse is that i was young and naive and truely believed a born again Christian and submarine commander would be an honest President. I stopped believing him about 6 months into his administration and haven't believed a single word any politician has spoken since then. There are NO politicians I like or admire and none that I would trust for a single minute. I believe we would be better off with names from the phone book. I voted for Trump because he wasn't a politician. I've lived through 13 Presidents, none of whom, with the exception of Reagan, were worthy of being dogcatchers. My attitide was that we've tried it their way and it's just gotten worse so what harm could Trump do? So far I'm very pleased.

#7 FRP on 2018-05-02 15:59 (Reply)

You are absolved of your guilt over voting for Carter.

Go, and don't do it again.

:)

#7.1 JLawson on 2018-05-03 08:13 (Reply)

The first question I ask myself when I read criticisms of Trump is, is the criticizer also a self-made billionaire?

Trump is like every builder that I have ever known: Full of shit, glad-handing and bluster, but ultimately knowing there's a job to be delivered to the customer. As someone else said, he owes nobody.

Does he tell a lie? Maybe, strategically. Is he like the rest of the inside-the-beltway pond scum? Not in the least.

No, don't particularly like him, his style, his outrageous gauche-ness. But, like many other builders I've known, he is good at being effective and he has my respect for that. He'll get my vote for a second term, at this point.

No, I don't see Trump as the problem. The rest of you lying, no-good scum-sucking weasels who've attached yourself to the political machine for your crust of bread: You are the problem. It will give me no end of satisfaction to say to you: Good riddance to bad rubbish - assuming that day ever comes.

#8 Aggie on 2018-05-02 20:09 (Reply)

Why is this so hard. The choice was Hillary, the monster, or Trump. No decent, self-respecting person could choose Hillary. Unfortunately, a majority of Americans did, which shows just how corrupt the American people are.

#9 Bob Sykes on 2018-05-02 21:26 (Reply)

I did and will vote for Trump for many reasons... but the biggest is he will absolutely stack the Supreme Court with Constitutionalist judges for the next 40 years. With a little luck, our children will be old long before there is any chance at a liberal activist SCOTUS.

That will do more good for the country than any other accomplishment.

#10 Oliver Klosoff on 2018-05-02 21:33 (Reply)

We just got rid of the most dishonest and likely most anti-American and anti-constitution president in our history and we are worried about Trump's truthfullness? Where were these geniuses worrying about Obama's truthfullness or Hillary's or Bills??? We have right now a real constitutional crisis. Obama and the Democrats tried to steal an election and once they failed began a palace coup against a duly elected president. This deep state Democrat coup is still operating and they may well pull it off. Imagine after 242 years anti-constitutional forces remove a sitting president in an attempt to install someone they want over the voters choice. I do not understand why everyone isn't outraged. People need to go to jail. Comey, Hillary, Brennan, Clapper and even Obama need to go to jail. Where is our DOJ? Where are the Republicans demanding restoration of our Republic?

I cannot think of any lies that Trump has told. Obviously it is part of the Democrat smokescreen but trying to remember the ONLY one I can think that was hyped as a big (yuge) lie was that Trump's crowd was bigger than Obama's at the inauguration. Is THAT the lie everyone is supposed to be upset about?

#11 GoneWithTheWind on 2018-05-02 22:39 (Reply)

"but trying to remember the ONLY one I can think that was hyped as a big (yuge) lie was that Trump's crowd was bigger than Obama's at the inauguration. Is THAT the lie everyone is supposed to be upset about?"

Well, I do know that the demons and the media lied about the size of Trump's crowd. They deliberately inserted pictures from before the event began. But Trump is a businessman. Do you know what puffery is? Puffery refers to an exaggeration or statement that no reasonable person would take as factual. It often occurs in the context of advertsing and promotional testimonials. When some ad says that something is the "best", do you hold them to the same standards you hold your friends? Nor do the courts. They have been ruling for decades that business entities may "lie" all they want in promoting their brand. Remember, Trump is not your friend. He doesn't even know you. Watch his actions, not his words.

#11.1 Anonymous White Male on 2018-05-03 09:33 (Reply)

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