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Why are antiques now so cheap?

Nobody wants frumpy old stuff any more

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"Nobody wants frumpy old stuff any more" Really? I store my blue jeans, T-shirts, and underwear in a chest of drawers made before the Civil War and handed down from generation to generation in my family. My grandfather once showed me where the cherry tree stood that the veneer was made from. My night stand with the marble top belonged to my great-grandmother. My office desk belonged to my great grandfather. My house is just full of old family stuff. I guess it gives me a sense of history and continuity.

#1 snopercod on 2018-03-14 09:28 (Reply)

I am just like you. But most people are not, these days.

#1.1 Bird Dog on 2018-03-14 09:55 (Reply)

But it's hard to fit a laptop, monitor and printer on an 18th century gentleman's writing desk

#1.2 another guy named Dan on 2018-03-14 12:29 (Reply)

Yes it is difficult to fit those modern things on a small writing surface, however they fit quite nicely on a rectangular or square Queen Anne or Chippendale drop leaf table. Put one leaf down and the other up as the writing surface. Mine hold an old desk top computer, scanner, printer copier and a number of other things. I was an American a dealer for over 20 years and wouldn't be happy living with new "crap". I can tell you from experience that Obama's policies killed the antiques shows and the ability of many clients to purchase additional items for their collections or homes. . A few are slowly trying to come back and I hope younger people will realize the quality in "old stuff".

#1.2.1 JC on 2018-03-14 15:47 (Reply)

Ditto, my dressers. My daughter sleeps in a maple 'rope' bed that belonged to my grandmother, with posts carved, not lathed. I tell the time by listening to my two clocks from the pre-Civil war era.

And there are not many things that beat the simple delicate classiness of a handmade windsor chair that is over 150 years old.

Antiques rock. The young'uns will figure this out in due time; Unfortunately history isn't taught in the schools anymore, so they don't yet know how to relate something old to an actual historical event with human drama.

#1.3 Aggie on 2018-03-14 19:33 (Reply)

We enjoy our frumpy old stuff. It does confuse the occasional designer I've hired to help me solve problems. They have a hard time with the idea that I don't want whatever is hot this month in the design magazines, which down here is a relentless "beachy" look, an open floor plan, the kitchen island, etc.

#2 Texan99 on 2018-03-14 10:21 (Reply)

And what's up with shiplap and barn doors inside houses?

#2.1 mary on 2018-03-14 13:29 (Reply)

You did good to reject the kitchen island. Islands are really bad ideas on a number of levels. Besides having to walk around them to get to the other side of the kitchen, it makes the plumbing and electrical difficult. There's no place to vent a sink or dishwasher and, unless you make a two-level island, there's no good place for electrical receptacles and switches. On this one million dollar house I wired, there was no place for a garbage disposal switch on the island. If it had been on the side of the island, the box would have intruded into the inside of the cabinet and the owner didn't want that. They had to install some weird kind of garbage disposal that started when you pushed down on the stopper. You can't stand right up next to the sides and back of an island because most of them don't have all around toe-kick spaces like cabinetry does. If you decide to locate a range on the island, there's no way to vent it other than a down-flow vent or a suspended vent hood, both high dollar devices.

#2.2 snopercod on 2018-03-14 14:54 (Reply)

On the other hand, when you place all the kitchen 'stuff' elsewhere, the island makes for a great layout space.....with storage underneath it for pots, pans, tupperware, cutting boards, a bookshelf for cookbooks. And then when you have friends it makes for a great buffet plate-loading circuit.

#2.2.1 Aggie on 2018-03-14 19:27 (Reply)

Galley kitchen, no room for an island anyway. I don't need 1,000 sq. ft. in the kitchen.--Mary, yes, we chuckle at the shiplap and barn doors. I don't think they look bad, but I'm not convinced they'll age well. Just give me high ceilings, and let every room have sunlight from two angles and preferably more. Do that and almost everything else will work out, even if all your furniture is Victorian hand-me-downs or stuff you picked up as a youngster at antique stores for a song.

#2.2.1.1 Texan99 on 2018-03-14 23:26 (Reply)

Check out: Solatube

http://www.solatube.com/

I've installed them in two of my homes and visitors/family have installed them in their own after seeing them. Very cool and very nice true light (and not overly expensive).

#2.2.1.1.1 Aggie on 2018-03-15 10:13 (Reply)

We have intersecting upstairs/downstairs space and transom windows over all the doors, which brings light from many directions into every room. I'm a little skeptical of leak-proofing on any skylight!

#2.2.1.1.1.1 Texan99 on 2018-03-15 11:22 (Reply)

Texan99,

I understand, I was too. This is less like a skylight and more like a standard roof vent though, between the roof joists and with integral full-surround raised flashing. The cap is a fresnel lens that gathers a ton of light, and the tubes are mirror-finished. I know of 6 installations, all more than 10 years old, mine included. No leaks...highly recommend it.

#2.2.1.1.1.1.1 Aggie on 2018-03-15 12:47 (Reply)

We gave serious thought to one for our one windowless powder room under the stairs. Sounds like they've worked out the leak issues that were concerning me.

#2.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 Texan99 on 2018-03-15 23:00 (Reply)

The organized anti-gun rally of school kids in Washington DC decided to stand with their backs towards the White House for 17 minutes of silence. Obviously to send a political message with more about politics than guns. Would they have done this if Obama was in office? There is a cabal of Lefties, communist and foreign agitators in this anti-gun agenda. The same cabal is taking over the women's march and the various SJW groups. This latest effort by the anti-American cabal reminds me of the anti-war protests of the Vietnam war which we later discovered was indeed funded and controlled by Russia AND it is eerily reminiscent of Hitlerjugend (Hitler youth) where he trained and propagandized the German youth to make it easier to recruit them into the coming Nazi movement.

Our MSM never, ever, tells us where the money comes from and who are the shadowy figures behind these demonstrations and anti-American groups. For example; you would think that if Soros gave a million dollars to elect a Democrat in a special election in, lets say Alabama, that thiis would be news and reporters would eagerly want to report it. Or if Soros gave millions to Antifa that this too would be news worthy. After all Soros has a nefarious reputation and has caused havoc all over the world. Why does the MSM not want to or perhaps is not allowed to report this?

#3 GoneWithTheWind on 2018-03-14 10:46 (Reply)

The vast majority of the MSM is owned by six (6) globalist corporations. When I was in the media business starting back in the 1970s, 460 - 475 separate firms controlled most of the media.

Where are the monopoly busters?

#3.1 jma on 2018-03-14 15:17 (Reply)

Whatever you think of Trump(and having been born in Atlantic City and history there for a long time I was ambivalent about him)he has managed to expose what was once the stuff of paranoid fantasies.

There really is Ruling Elite and he's flushed them out and exposed them to the Sunlight.

Let's see if it matters.

#4 Robert Sendler on 2018-03-14 11:02 (Reply)

Those high school students are protesting the wrong thing. What kills more high school students that anything else is alcohol and automobiles. We had an example here recently where three high school students were drinking and driving. They went off the road and hit a tree and two were killed. Why aren't those students protesting automobile violence and demanding automobile control laws? They should be protesting in front of the National Automobile Dealers Association headquarters.

#5 Ray on 2018-03-14 13:05 (Reply)

Perhaps they shouldn't be able to buy or operate motor-vehicles until age 21?

#5.1 B. Hammer on 2018-03-14 14:20 (Reply)

Don't forget swimming pools and bicycles. In fact each of these kill more children than school shootings do. No one under age 21 should be allowed to buy a bicycle. That would actually save loves vs the gun grabbing anti-1st amendment laws they are proposing.

#5.2 OneGuy on 2018-03-14 16:27 (Reply)

@ B. Hammer
Not sure if that would make any difference. The demographic that has the most automobile accidents are the 18-25 year old males. I am sure that a lot of this is due to inexperience and the fact that males tend to be more aggressive and take more risks than females. If you can't operate a motor vehicle until you are 21 you are just postponing the inevitable learning and making mistakes.

#6 Ray on 2018-03-14 19:55 (Reply)

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