Maggie's Farm

I've called my bosses morons at industry events, particularly when they are lunkheads. It's possible to do that and be the better person.
My last boss? An idiot of the highest order. Rich? Sure, he's made a fortune because he's the son of an industry stalwart. But he drove the company to bankruptcy because he refused to listen to his team. He knew more - they didn't. Let's not discuss his moral failings, 2 wives, the first one he set up during the process of divorce to get her deported so she can never see her kid again, the second in the process of divorcing him. His anger at having his salary cut from $500k to $450k (public record, plus he called me in to complain about it) the same day 200 people were fired. Oh yeah, they made up the $50k with stock options. Oh yeah, when he had to fire 5 people, he stayed late at lunch and called HR and had me do it.

A moron? Damn right I called him one - early in my tenure there, during the firings. And I am the better person.

What I put out there would:
a. be no different than anything I said publicly, and to his face, so whether or not other people share it is of little consequence to me.
b. still be 100% true
c. has nothing to do with whether he could or couldn't fire me - I never said anything about that. Fact is, I said it to his face and he kept me for 2 more years because he was too stupid to do his job effectively. When he replaced me (due to the company failing), he hired a young kid on 100% commission who quit after 4 months because the place was a disaster.
d. of absolutely no interest to the /chan people because this idiot is of little consequence today.

So say what you will, but while anyone can reply "says you" - everyone I know who know him agrees with my analysis, my response, and everything I wrote here.

As one friend said to me recently "we all have had our challenging relationships throughout our careers, most of us haven't chosen to speak as honestly as you."

It's not emotional incontinence.

I'd prefer to see people know what this guy is so they don't have to go through it and learn for themselves. And for people who never have to deal with him, you may ask "Who cares?" Well, everyone should. Learning from his poor behavior and decision-making helps reduce its recurrence.

I found this:

The AP quoted two unnamed senior department officials as saying Tillerson “received a call from John Kelly, Trump’s chief of staff, on Friday, but was only told that there might be a presidential tweet that would concern him. Kelly didn’t tell Tillerson what the tweet might say or when it might actually publish.” In public remarks Tuesday, Trump said he’d been considering replacing Tillerson for some time, but made the final decision recently, and “by myself.”


There's all the world of difference being warned 'you may be fired soon' and then finding out you actually were fired via a Tweet.

I've known of my imminent demise at a previous employer, but when the day came at least it was handled well. I'd received a call from a friend in the company telling me "you know your name came up in layoff discussions, just thought you should know they are coming in the next few weeks."
3 weeks later, it happened.

At least I didn't find out via social media.

Yeah, no.

I've been trying to find that, to no avail. So if YOU have it, I'd love to see it. What I do know is that Steve Goldstein, a State Department spokesperson (who did not leak that Tillerson found out via tweet) stated only that Tillerson hadn't spoken with Trump and intended on staying in the job.

He, for some strange reason, replaced another spokesperson who had speculated that Trump was planning to replace Tillerson with Haley.

You know it IS POSSIBLE to appreciate the accomplishments of Trump without having to like him, right? As far as I'm concerned, he's light years ahead of his predecessor. But that doesn't mean he's a good president nor is he a good person.

As I've said before, I happen to know people who have worked for him and have no love for him personally. Their experiences were not good. That said, they voted for him. I can't explain their choices, but they would echo my statements.

We have all worked for assholes in our lives. Some are effective, others less so. One doesn't make judgements regarding effectiveness based purely on personality traits.

I have.
Nothing happened which indicts me in any way. Plenty happened with him. He didn't care about the other people in the organization, all he cared about was his pay packet.

If people think less of me because I happen to tell them what actually happened, and the behaviors of certain people in those situations were reprehensible, I can live with that.

Someone may always say "that's just your version of events." No. Those are the events. There is no other version except for a lie. This wasn't a 'perception' issue. I'm perfectly comfortable replaying history for others. Learning from their mistakes is important.

I didn’t say he was a great guy. Show me where I said that. I simply said you can call your boss a moron (or any other slight), and still be the better person.
Firing is done face-to-face. I’ve had to do it, and I’ve had it done to me. It is just proper. The method is flawed. I do know someone else Trump fired. It’s not my story to tell, but it was similarly classless. That fellow was bitter over it for years, but still voted for Trump.
I don’t judge people solely on personality. I have worked for idiots before, but they knew how to get things done. I can respect that. My commentary about Tillerson being the better person is that he has comported himself well, and even in this moment, he has handled it all with great class and composure. That, in itself, is respectable.