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Thursday, March 8. 2018Thursday morning linksNot from The Onion: A Photo of Charles Murray Is Too Traumatizing for Some Middlebury College Students - "I recognize that it may be especially jarring, particularly for students of color" The Tyranny of the Perpetually Offended They are not truly offended. They use false offense as a weapon Campus fascism on the march Jordan Peterson tries to speak at Grant Hall, Queen’s University, Kingston, Ontario, Monday, March 5 Children, children, let's be young ladies and gentlemen Noonan (WSJ): Who’s Afraid of Jordan Peterson? When a British interviewer tried to shut him up, I knew he had something interesting to say. Dorm Living for Professionals Comes to San Francisco Makes sense to me Steyn: Inclusion Riders of the Showbiz Apocalypse Why this man who barged in on his cheating wife could go to jail for 15 years New documents show FBI paid Best Buy’s Geek Squad staff to act as informants Stasi! A Cold Winter Is Brought into Line with Climate Ideology Even weather must adhere to the party line UN Appoints Michael Bloomberg as a Climate Envoy Federal Spending: 5 Charts that Tell the Story - Our fiscal problems start with entitlements and end with entitlements. Americans have learned to love their freebies Trump administration to turn over documents related to Obama-era Operation Fast and Furious NATIONAL LAWYERS GUILD: FREEDOM OF SPEECH ONLY PROTECTS INOFFENSIVE SPEECH Their speech offends me, deeply They love easy money Connecticut Governor: The NRA Has “In Essence Become A Terrorist Organization” THE REAL FALLOUT FROM HIGH SCHOOL WALKOUTS Dear Annoying Parkland Kids: We Gave You A Pretty Awesome World, Try Not To Mess It Up More Than 100 House Republicans Rally Against Trump Tariffs Why Trump is Right About Tariffs Donald Trump Resolute on Tariffs and Trade: I Was Elected to Protect Our Workers Trump ‘basically going to war’ with California, Jerry Brown says Got it backwards ‘HOW DARE YOU’: AG Sessions Slams California Democrats For Protecting Illegal Aliens The future battlefield: Army, Marines prepare for ‘massive’ fight in megacities After reports of chemical attacks, White House considers new military action against Syrian regime Trump's critics amazed, forced to praise him after tough talk brings North Korea to heel UK Labour leader belongs to secret anti-Semitic Facebook group Iran's missile production has increased three-fold: Guards commander Trackbacks
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You can tell Jerry Brown is a big believer in recycling. He's just replacing "segregation" with "immigration" in old George Wallace arguments.
"When a British interviewer tried to shut him up I knew he had something interesting to say"
That is the point. The left cannot tell the truth because they would lose their followers and useful idiots. They cannot come into the sunshine. They must prevent discourse at all costs. They are like the Mafia executing witnesses to survive. How do you stop a revolution?
Please remind me: what brought the blood shed and the guillotine to a halt during the French Revolution? How do you stop the blood in the streets? Because, that is where the Women's revolution is heading. Do or say anything to anyone who disagrees: destroy careers, attack with lies, physical assaults all in the name of "women's" liberation. This revolution is near to blood in the streets and I am just wondering who or what will stop the slaughter? QUOTE: Dear Annoying Parkland Kids: We Gave You A Pretty Awesome World, Try Not To Mess It Up It's doubtful the Parkland kids will find that a convincing argument. So what? They're a bunch of kids.
When solutions to complex problems are needed, the voices to turn to for answers can be found in the deep insights and world view of the American teenager....said no one ever. They're teenagers. They know everything.
It'll take 'em a few decades to realize they didn't really have any idea of what was going on at all. Dale: So what?
1) Because the argument was addressed to them. 2) Because telling victims of a massacre that led to the possibly avoidable deaths of seventeen of their friends and classmates that you have handed them a "pretty awesome world" is an insulting argument. JLawson: They're teenagers. They know everything. Perhaps a little humility on the part of adults who failed them would be in order. "We're still kids and we were in that school" — Parkland kid. There are plenty of adults that have pointed out who and what failed the children of Parkland. I’m not going to humble myself to a bunch of screaming children, that are being organized by anti-American lefty organizations. The ultimate purpose of said organizations, is to destroy my rights and country.
B. Hammer: I’m not going to humble myself to a bunch of screaming children, that are being organized by anti-American lefty organizations.
humility: freedom from pride or arrogance. The question was whether it was appropriate to brag about how adults have given the Parkland kids "a pretty awesome world" in the aftermath of what must have surely been a horrific experience. Let's remember that NONE of us here want kids to be murdered in Parkland or anyone else. NONE. OF. US.
That said, the direct blame for Parkland has to fall on the man who was obviously a ticking time bomb. He murdered those students, not the NRA. Neither did law abiding gun owners or NRA members who are being called terrorists and murderers and told that "the blood of the kids is on their hands". Bullshit. I would also argue that the blame should fall squarely on local law enforcement who visited or investigated the murderer 39 times. 39. Times. And when they didn't confiscate his guns as reasonable law enforcement would have, it certainly isn't my fault or the NRA's. Finally, when those sheriffs officers showed up at the school, they were apparently ordered to NOT engage the shooter. WTF?!?! Many on the left say that only the military and cops should have guns. Now we see a blatant example of those well-armed cops not doing what they are paid and trained to do: stop a murdering scumbag. This isn't my fault. This isn't the NRA's fault. But there are indeed adults to blame, strawman. Try pointing your grubby Soros-funded fingers at the real culprits. And keep your hands off my guns.
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Dangerous Dean
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2018-03-08 11:47
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Dangerous Dean: Let's remember that NONE of us here want kids to be murdered in Parkland or anyone else. NONE. OF. US.
Of course not. That wasn't the point raised, of course. Indeed, the author's point of view seems, in many respects, less mature than those of the students involved, who have every right to address the issue publicly.
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 12:39
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drowningpuppies
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2018-03-08 14:23
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"who have every right to address the issue publicly."
Correct. And we have every right to call them out for the ignorant, little shits that they are. Maybe they should be spending more time banning Tide Pods.
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jimg
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2018-03-08 15:01
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Dale: So what?
1) Because the argument was addressed to them. 2) Because telling victims of a massacre that led to the possibly avoidable deaths of seventeen of their friends and classmates that you have handed them a "pretty awesome world" is an insulting argument. ================== Argument? Who asked them to argue anything?? They were not the victims, that said, why should anyone be forced to listen to the irrational yellings of emotionally traumatized children? It's bad enough to listen to that crap, but be expected to take their "advice" seriously??? I don't think so. If they are actually so traumatized by a event they were no where most of them were no where near, there sure have a lot pictures of happy and smiling group shots (hope that isn't a trigger word) with their handlers and camera crews. They don't at all look traumatized imo. But once the cameras are rolling they become really serious and hurt. Just my opinion..others may feel differently. Dale: Argument?
The author, Robert Tracinski, volunteered that the Parkland kids were given "a pretty awesome world. Try not to mess it up." By any reasonable estimate, the world they live in is pretty messed up already. Dale: Who asked them to argue anything?? Not sure why Tracinski decided that bragging about how awesome the world is was an appropriate response to what must surely be the most terrible thing that has ever happened to those kids. Dale: They were not the victims Of course they're victims. Some were injured. Many saw the killings firsthand. All lost friends and classmates, and most know parents and siblings of those who were killed. When confronted with a preventable tragedy, it's natural people will work to prevent a recurrence — even if they are just kids. Dale: Argument?
The author, Robert Tracinski, volunteered that the Parkland kids were given "a pretty awesome world. Try not to mess it up." By any reasonable estimate, the world they live in is pretty messed up already. ==================== Focus Bias. ----------------- When confronted with a preventable tragedy, it's natural people will work to prevent a recurrence — even if they are just kids. ================= They're traumatized and manipulated kids. Period. They have no answers to offer, just expressions of emotion and manipulated talking points.
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Dale
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2018-03-08 12:27
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Dale: They have no answers to offer, ...
It's been nearly twenty years since Columbine. Adults have had a generation to address the problem, but have failed time and time again. That's a valid point to raise. Dale: just expressions of emotion and manipulated talking points. Emotions are to be expected. Their view are no more manipulated than, say, yours are.
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 12:42
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It's been nearly twenty years since Columbine. Adults have had a generation to address the problem, but have failed time and time again. That's a valid point to raise.
==================== There IS no answer to lone wolf attacks. Thats a valid point to raise. ------------------------------- Emotions are to be expected. Their view are no more manipulated than, say, yours are. ======================= Bullshit. What are you basing that claim on?
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Dale
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2018-03-08 14:28
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Dale: There IS no answer to lone wolf attacks. Thats a valid point to raise.
So you're telling the kids that they just have to get used to such attacks. We disagree that there are no solutions.
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 14:41
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Zzzz: We disagree that there are no solutions.
-------- Please offer your solutions, kiddiez, so the whole world will know how to stop lone wolf attacks. Back to your sandbox.
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drowningpuppies
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2018-03-08 15:29
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I agree. Where is Sheriff Israel's humility? He should be stepping down from his job for epic failures. That would prove to these students right away that when you mess up, there are consequences.
Instead, the students grabbed onto Israel's lies and pointed fingers at the NRA and lawful gun owners. I am all for some humility. Mark Twain: "“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.”
Aggie: Mark Twain ...
Sure. There are many arguable positions concerning the Parkland shooting. However, "Dear Annoying Parkland Kids: We Gave You A Pretty Awesome World, Try Not To Mess It Up" and "we have every right to call them out for the ignorant, little shits that they are," do not make for convincing arguments. Planet Z: You've missed the point completely. Nobody faults these children for having a message or for speaking out after the tragedy. Hearing someone express their thoughts and opinions about a prominent issue is the American way - a tradition, incidentally, that is frequently obstructed by young Progressive students who shut down campus conferences because they don't like the views of more conservative speakers and cannot stand to see them aired. What is outrageous to most people is to see these young under-informed children behaving like spoiled condescending brats and being encouraged to do so by their wards - by having the powerful means of the media placed at their disposal, and their message facilitated by the apparatus. We all have one from our own youths - the spoiled rich kid with the brand new expensive car who never worked for anything they had. It's not that other people are envious. It's that they are offended by the sense of unearned, arrogant entitlement that comes with the attitude or superiority. Who wouldn't feel contempt for the adults that are indulging this irresponsible nonsense?
Aggie: What is outrageous to most people is to see these young under-informed children behaving like spoiled condescending brats and being encouraged to do so by their wards
This is the statement at issue: Dear Annoying Parkland Kids: We Gave You A Pretty Awesome World, Try Not To Mess It Up In what way does this statement advance educating "under-informed" children? In what world is that an appropriate statement to say to children who have just suffered a devastating attack? Aggie: the spoiled rich kid with the brand new expensive car What the heck are you talking about? These kids just went through a bloody attack that killed seventeen people, and injured many others. In what way is that a "pretty awesome world"?
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Zachriel
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2018-03-10 10:13
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QUOTE: A Cold Winter Is Brought into Line with Climate Ideology The Pacific is in its La Niña phase, so atmospheric cooling is expected. The global trend is still for long-term warming. QUOTE: Further, evidence suggests that there has been no significant increase in global average temperature during the past two decades. 1997 to present GISTEMP: +0.188°C/decade UAH v5.6 TLT: +0.160°C/decade Really, 0.2 °C? I’m supposed to be concerned about a rounding error? After all the massaged data, out right lying and fraud, and you present 0.2°C? My favorite new word, that you taught me: oblivious. It fits you, perfectly.
B. Hammer: Really, 0.2 °C? I’m supposed to be concerned about a rounding error?
Global warming has been about 0.74 ± 0.18 °C (2-sigma). That wouldn't be a dire issue, but warming is expected to continue. Expected, being the key word:
• It was expected that the oceans would be dead by now. • It was expected that the oceans would be lapping up all the low-lying coasts and city’s by now. • It was expected that civilization would end by now. • It was expected that pollution would destroy the earth by now. • It was expected that population would strip all the land from available resources by now. • It was expected that wide spread famine would be killing off the population by now. • It was expected that urban dwellers would need to wear gas masks by now to survive air pollution. • It was expected that nitrogen buildup would filter out all the light from the atmosphere; none of the land would be usable. • It was expected that decaying organic pollutants would use up all the oxygen in the rivers, causing fresh water fish to suffocate. • It was expected that all the crude oil would be used up by now. • It was expected that all the worlds resources of lead, copper, silver, zinc and gold, would be used up by now. • It was expected that 75 to 80 percent of all species of living animals would be dead by now. • It was expected that we would have experienced and ice age by now. • It was expected that the ice sheets on both poles would be melted by now. • It was expected that there would be no more snow in London. • It was expected that hurricanes would increase in numbers and severity. I am sure that I missed a whole slew of expected nonsense. Put not your trust in scientists invested in an outcome, that provides their paycheck. Hammer with the hammer! +
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Dale
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2018-03-08 12:37
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B. Hammer: It was expected ...
Off-hand remarks don't undermine the evidence for anthropogenic global warming.
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 12:44
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The kiddieZ keep using that word; evidence
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drowningpuppies
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2018-03-08 13:51
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And once again, that trend is created from adjusted data, with only vague explanations of how and why individual data points were modified, other than the fact at least some of the data was changed on an order of magnitude the same or greater than the measured trend. Without that detailed explanation, there is no way to determine if the trend reported is present in the data, or an artifact of the adjustment process.
The suspicion of many is that the data is being modified based on an algorithm that at least implicitly assumes a warming trend, applies this to the data, and then the output becomes the assumed trend rather than a true measurement. another guy named Dan: And once again, that trend is created from adjusted data
Yet land, sea, and satellite data show the same overall warming trend. another guy named Dan: with only vague explanations of how and why individual data points were modified That's just ignorance on your part. Every paper includes methodology, specific studies concerning data-analysis, even entire teams dedicated to the subject. The homogenization of data is subject to continuing scientific scrutiny, and independent analysis not relying on homogenization reveals the same overall warming trend. another guy named Dan: Without that detailed explanation, there is no way to determine if the trend reported is present in the data, or an artifact of the adjustment process. Then read the scientific literature on the subject. another guy named Dan: The suspicion of many is that the data is being modified based on an algorithm that at least implicitly assumes a warming trend, applies this to the data, and then the output becomes the assumed trend rather than a true measurement. And Galileo admitted that the Earth was fixed at the center of the universe, Darwin was a poor scientist, and the moon landings were faked. Zzzz:
And Galileo admitted that the Earth was fixed at the center of the universe, Darwin was a poor scientist, and the moon landings were faked. And the KiddieZ just had to throw in another straw man. Back to your sandbox, kiddiez! "Read the scientific literature on the subject"
I have. I've also studied metrology, differential equations as they apply to chaotic systems, numerical modeling of complex systems, complexity and systems theory, and even wear a lab coat (and the occasional bow tie) at work. My education is in engineering and by profession I build and maintain infrastructures for doing "big data" analysis. another guy named Dan: I have. I've also studied metrology, differential equations as they apply to chaotic systems, numerical modeling of complex systems, complexity and systems theory, and even wear a lab coat (and the occasional bow tie) at work.
Then why would you make the claim that there are only "vague explanations of how and why individual data points were modified" when virtually every paper includes a methods section, research papers have been published just on adjustments, and an entire scientific team worked independently from the raw, unadjusted data, and using statistical analysis without homogenization, found the same warming trend? Or when different types of data; land, sea, satellite; support the warming trend?
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 14:48
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Zzzz: Then why would you make the claim that...
Maybe the man knows of what he claims and he's probably a whole lot smarter than you kiddieZ. Back to your sandbox.
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drowningpuppies
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2018-03-08 15:21
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because their statistical methods suck. The fundamental gage precision on their thermometers is roughly 0.1C. Given the siting and time of observation biases, the systematic gage accuracy is probably on the order of 0.3C. The span of measurements at a single spatial point can range over 50C in a single year. The range in data points over their geographic range can easily exceed 35C.
And then they do all kinds of tricks that amount to using the average of the 11:00 am and 1:00 pm to try to increase the measurement precision of the noon reading, and averaging New York and LA to increase the precision of the St Louis readings (not on that scale, but the technique is the same). In short, in my opinion, the data they are working with can't support the trends they claim at the signal-to-noise ratios inherent in the system.
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another guy named Dan
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2018-03-08 16:09
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another guy named Dan: The fundamental gage precision on their thermometers is roughly 0.1C.
So? Are you claiming that the precision of the averaged anomaly can only be precise to 0.1°C?
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 16:31
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another guy named Dan: because their statistical methods suck.
The statisticians at the Berkeley Earth Project disagree. Do you have a citation to a study showing where they went wrong?
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Zachriel
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2018-03-08 16:32
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Click Bait makes the media go round; that's why the media is heavily weighted toward freaks, cranks, and the down right potty. They know their audiences well, soap opera women and other cases of arrested development. At best, it is very hard for even a nomie to look away from a train wreck.
If a platform emerged that represented a sane, down to earth, fact and reality based view; think boring. On urban terrain. I have done exercises at Fort Hood and Fort Benning concrete block villages and can say there was little reality. Fighting in urban terrain eats soldiers. The US has neither the numbers or public stomach for such fights.
There is a reason why terrorists and others choose to fight in large urban areas. Because it gives their opposition the no win choice of using massive force and killing civilians or fighting door to door against an entrenched force. It is a trap we cannot afford to enter.
The real choice is win or lose. To win this kind of battle must be fought from 20,000' in the air and with artillery and drones on the ground. A terrible choice but the only winning one. When wars become a fight for a nations survival cities start to look like Dresden, Hamburg, Tokyo, Nagasaki, or Hiroshima. Its been a while since we've been at that scale but you can bet we will get there again and that's when the size of the rubble doesn't matter except to those standing in it.
For those of you who are unaware of community organizers:the US unions funded by union dues frequently open community organizing efforts in other countries. The primary example being in Australia, UK, Ireland etc. Here is a great example: Australians were just hammered into voting to accept LGBT marriage-that ws last month. This month Qantas just dumped this load of crap on their crew and passengers.
https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/qantas-drops-gender-terms-for-flyers.html?utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign= Dorm Living for Professionals in the Bay Area --
Would also be a good idea for Congress. Set up quarters at one of the DC area military bases, let them stay there during the sessions and remove any extra allowances. Give them Metro passes to get to and from. Optionally, move everything to video conferencing. Don't tell me it doesn't work, my next higher headquarters used to tell us to video conference in to meetings and conferences. They said it was as good as being there (yeah, you can really interface and dialog with others when you're logged into a video teleconference). Just because it always wound up like the GEICO conference phone commercial... |