We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
She doesn't want to learn. She wants a gotcha for her own career, but he gets the gotchas. Unfortunately, she acts foolish to try to be provocative. Not a good approach for a woman because it makes a woman seem foolish.
As the father of two entrepreneurial-minded daughters, they would be entirely on Peterson's side. Life is highly competitive and tests your grit, moxie, brains, adaptability, and determination. And yes, they want strong powerful partners. Who would not? Men want and need strong, energetic partners too. Thus selective breeding.
Fun stuff. (Yes, reposted for educational purposes for women).A Jordan Peterson debate on the gender pay gap, campus protests and postmodernism.
I've got a problem with the position he's taking. He doesn't talk about complimentary gender-roles; where the man earns the money, and the woman raises the kids and makes a home. Instead, he goes off in a hundred different directions; but he evades the central point.
This matters because women need to be told that being a wife and mother is important. Dropping kids off at day-care for a 12 hour visit is not the same thing as keeping them at home. Pre-K is very disorienting for children, and fails to create the long-term emotional bond that is supposed to exist between a mother and child. I find it interesting that most immigrant mothers never take their kids to day care if they can avoid it. They know from their culture that a woman's responsibility is to stay home with the kids, at least until they are in high school. They cook, clean, change diapers, all with joy in the satisfaction of being a good mother.
American women, on the other hand, have been taught to believe that motherhood is "old-fashioned" and went out with feminism. The first thing that I do to solve this problem is end all state and federal subsidies for child care. These subsidies promote single-motherhood and divorce by telling women that day care is "perfectly fine".
When women learn that having children is a privilege, and that it requires the financial resources in the form of a working partner, they will stop thinking of children as a side-job. And they will stop treating men as if they were disposable. This is why men are supposed to be paid more than women.
I wish he had the courage to say so.
I'm content to let women decide on their own whether child-bearing or anything else is a privilege. So is Professor Jordan: he clearly is deeply allergic to telling people what they want. What he's good at is insistent, clear, articulate attention to what they do in fact enjoy get fulfillment out of and what they don't, but he is empirically driven and relentlessly honest about what he sees. I love his resistance to result-driven analysis.
What was most amusing about this interchange was how genuinely unfamiliar his interviewer was with many of his arguments, though they're commonplace everywhere except outside her echo chamber. It's a shame she was so determined not to listen to him. She's bright enough to understand him. She just doesn't want to.