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Wednesday, December 27. 2017
I get his point, but I do not think that fitness is equivalent to physical labor. Our carpenter lifts weights in the gym with the intention of continuing to be able to carry heavy things at work through his 70s. In my case, I have always done all of the outdoor labor at the HQ and the farm that I have time for (ie weekends), but I never saw any fitness gains from that. It is enjoyable for me, though.
For house-cleaning and laundry, we have two high-energy Polish immigrants who leave everything spotless, neat, and sparkling. Their only requirement of us is that there be no clutter, nothing on the floor, and nothing on any surfaces.
When you have day jobs, nobody wants to spend a weekend house-cleaning and doing laundry. Heck, we even do our workouts Sunday morning before church.
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When people have day jobs, nobody wants to spend a weekend house-cleaning and doing laundry.
Perhaps we don't want to, but most of us do not pay for outside help to clean up our houses.
Agree with your assessment. The point of labor is accomplishing a specific task with a particular standard of care in the outcome, and with concern for safety of yourself and others. You might be able to get some fitness benefit from mowing the lawn using a walk behind mower but it's either going to have to be a lawn so large as to be impractical to mow that way, or be done at a dead run which is going be both dangerous and give an unattractive result. Do the work if you enjoy being able to say you did it yourself but I wouldn't look down on anybody who pays to have their lawn mowed and uses that extra time to go to the gym.
He does have a good broader point that we've made the avoidance of physical labor of many kinds, including skilled physical labor, an absolute good in itself. We may pay lip service to the idea of craftsmanship but we've circumscribed that to be almost exclusively in the artistic realm and rarely recognize it in the people who meet our day to day technical needs.
Oh, bull. It is all social signalling. Just like my old boss, who took taxi to the hotel door, paid the doorman to carry his bags to the elevator and to the room. Just to show who was the big man, given his Bonaparte complex. Then he would make a big show of going to the gym or out for a run.
Meanwhile I lugged my own luggage up the stairwell. Not to make a social signalling point, but because I was healthy and could do my own work, thank you very much. I still cook and clean my own house, do the yard work, hold down a demanding job, take care of some infirm relatives, and work out when time permits. Priorities.
The benefits of doing my own housework/yardwork go beyond and arguably outweigh narrowly defined gym-calculated physical fitness, of which I am confessedly totally ignorant, by choice. I had a physical career as well, which always gave me the quip of, "I get paid to exercise." I'm 66 and weigh the same i weighed in high school, but I eat sensibly, consider my body a temple, not just my own. Still, life's too short to distribute criticism appropriately to all who deserve it, including the guy in the mirror. I don't work on Maggie's Farm no more. VDH is a favorite and a role model for me.
Gallagher made this joke in the '80s.
He noted that people went to the gym in NYC to pike up chrome weights while the trash wasn't getting picked up. Make the trash cans out of chrome, get the crap picked up.
Oh, and the best example is the gym with valet parking and escalators.
I hired a guy - Ronaldo - to go to the gym for me. He's become toned and muscular, and so I show his picture to women to prove that I have enough money to finance a great bod.
Because the only signal that really counts is money.
I like work and always have. when I was a kid I would shovel snow for a buck or so. I got my SS at age 13 so I could work in a car wash. As a teen out of High school I worked in a machine shop all day and a gas station nights and weekends. I like the satisfaction of doing the job and seeing it done. I like learning how to do things and feeling good about that knowledge. Age and health is slowing me down but I still enjoy the work. I always thought most people felt like this.
When I moved to California I knew that almost everyone had a yard guy, a pool guy, a cleaning lady; and many had personal pet groomers and mobile car detailers, who show up at 6AM.
But, I agree with VDH that it is satisfying to do your own stuff. I will not hire out for anything that I can do myself. Since I am an Octogenarian, and my time is my own, my perspective may be skewed. Given the SoCal traffic, many commuters have little time or energy--for anything but play. On the other hand many of those who pay for services have teen age children, who would benefit from having family responsibilities.
BD has one perspective on fitness; but, there is no strong like work strong.
The large living room bookcases will win no prizes for elegance, but I made them. Learned a lot in the process, too. The kitchen has a bench that doubles as storage and seating for the table. My wife's father made that of scrap wood. I dug the gardens and used the sod to re-landscape around the house to fix the drainage patterns.
We're connected to these things and places in ways we wouldn't be if we'd just shelled out shekels.
While I currently occupy a cube, for most of my life I worked as a grocery store butcher. I also lifted weights in my spare time as it made my job easier and safer. It was good to be able to lift more than my work required. I still lift as it keeps me alive while I sit.
Teenagers do not develop a work ethic because most entry level jobs, like those I did and probably most of you did, are no longer available to kids. This is a bigger problem than physical fitness. They do not get used to getting up and getting to work on time. Ask a manager of a small business of fast food place.
I think people forget or have never known pride in ownership. Getting it done. leaf raking, gutter cleaning, window washing, floor mopping, tree trimming,installing sinks and toilets are all part of home ownership. My wife and I have always done our own work on the hose. Minus pouring the concrete for the new back patio which i probably would have done myself 20 years ago. I was taught a work ethic by my father and it did cost a lot of after work and weekends i could have drank away or sat in front of a TV. Life is hard and also gratifying if you live it instead of running along side of it.
..."Our carpenter lifts weights in the gym with the intention of continuing to be able to carry heavy things at work through his 70s."...
Unless he's a fellow who only installs quarter rounds and shoe moldings for a living, that's just what he's telling you. What he really wants is for the women in the houses he works in --including yours-- to think that he's hot.
I was a carpenter for 25 years. There's almost no heavy work involved. Maybe if you had to deal with fire-rated 3/4 inch plywood. But then, you just got help.