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Friday, October 20. 2017

Uranium

Zero Hedge:



 If President Trump or anyone even remotely close to his presidency, including his best friend from 2nd grade that he hadn't seen in 40 years, sought to meet with key Russian nuclear officials, in Moscow, just months before the federal government approved a very controversial deal handing Vladimir Putin 20% of U.S. uranium reserves, despite an ongoing investigation into Russian fraud, bribery, extortion and money laundering, it would be the only story played on a 24 x 7 loop on CNN and MSNBC.


Posted by The News Junkie in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 11:26 | Comments (17) | Trackbacks (0)

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Well, duh! That would be proof of Trump's collusion with Russia.
#1 mudbug on 2017-10-20 11:57 (Reply)
This is the story of the century. The long term results of this terrible treason will come back to bite us in the future. Bill and Hillary are the Julius and Ethel Rosenberg of the 21st century. Hillary sold us out for a 30 pieces of silver (actually 145 million dollars). Our morally bankrupt MSM will not just continue to ignore this story they will try to cover it up.
#2 GoneWithTheWind on 2017-10-20 11:58 (Reply)
Crickets. This Clinton (and Bush/Obama) corruption has been going on so long, no one is paying attention. Weinstein's raping and pillaging get more coverage. Look! A squirrel!

We should be flooding our Congresscritters with e-mails and phone calls about their lack of attention to the criminal CIA/FBI black ops running our country. AND vote them out of office, cut off donations to their fat bank accounts.

$21 TRILLION is missing and unaccounted for...perhaps double that. That's your money, folks, and probably your pensions and your children's future. Stamp out this gangster operation now.
#3 jma on 2017-10-20 13:48 (Reply)
QUOTE:
the federal government approved a very controversial deal handing Vladimir Putin 20% of U.S. uranium reserves

No U.S. uranium actually left the country, of course.
#4 Zachriel on 2017-10-20 14:00 (Reply)
Not true according to the NYT (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html):

QUOTE:
Mr. Christensen, 65, noted that despite assurances by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that uranium could not leave the country without Uranium One or ARMZ obtaining an export license — which they do not have — yellowcake from his property was routinely packed into drums and trucked off to a processing plant in Canada.
#4.1 mudbug on 2017-10-20 14:19 (Reply)
U.S. uranium was processed in Canada, then returned to the U.S.
#4.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-10-20 15:19 (Reply)
So we'll stipulate that you were wrong that "no U.S. uranium actually left the country, of course."

Putting aside that it doesn't make financial sense to ship yellowcake to Canada to process it and then bring it back to the US, the company that exported the yellowcake did not have an export license, as quoted in the my post. The trucking firm that actually did transport the yellowcake to Canada did have a license but then the FBI had documents to show they were the subject of bribes by Russian officials (http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration):
QUOTE:
Federal agents used a confidential U.S. witness working inside the Russian nuclear industry to gather extensive financial records, make secret recordings and intercept emails as early as 2009 that showed Moscow had compromised an American uranium trucking firm with bribes and kickbacks in violation of the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, FBI and court documents show.

According to a Uranium One spokeswoman, the Post story you link to is incorrect. From the NYT article I linked to earlier:
QUOTE:
A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent [of the yellowcake that went to Canada] had gone to Western Europe and Japan.

The US could lose complete control over it at the point it leaves the country.

Another interesting point is that according to this article (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-clintons-putin-and-uranium-2015-4):
QUOTE:
The [NY] Times notes that while the US "gets one-fifth of its electrical power from nuclear plants, it produces only around 20% of the uranium it needs, and most plants have only 18 to 36 months of reserves."

So besides the nation's military national security, this deal puts the generation of electricity at some risk.

Let's not forget that there is a Canadian connection to this scandal, Frank Giustra who has business relationships with Kazakhstan which is allied with Russia.

The Obama administration approved a deal to hand over control of 20% of US uranium production to a company in which the Russian government had a majority stake. Further, they knew that functionaries in the Russian government side of the deal were engaged in racketeering, bribery, extortion, and money laundering. Given those facts, are we supposed to trust the Russians?
#4.1.1.1 mudbug on 2017-10-20 16:29 (Reply)
mudbug: A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent {of the yellowcake that went to Canada} had gone to Western Europe and Japan.

Notably, you added text. It seems that that is the sense the journalists intended, but that is not clear from the statement itself, which could refer to Uranium One's overall exports. That this reporting has not been further substantiated in over a year may indicate the story is not quite as strong you suggest.

Keep in mind that U.S. production of uranium is only a very small portion of global production. Of course, there may be more there than what is apparent at this point.
#4.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-10-20 16:59 (Reply)
From the context of the paragraph and the article as a whole, it's pretty clear she's talking about yellowcake exported from the US to Canada:
QUOTE:
Mr. Christensen, 65, noted that despite assurances by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that uranium could not leave the country without Uranium One or ARMZ obtaining an export license — which they do not have — yellowcake from his property was routinely packed into drums and trucked off to a processing plant in Canada.

Asked about that, the commission confirmed that Uranium One has, in fact, shipped yellowcake to Canada even though it does not have an export license. Instead, the transport company doing the shipping, RSB Logistic Services, has the license. A commission spokesman said that “to the best of our knowledge” most of the uranium sent to Canada for processing was returned for use in the United States. A Uranium One spokeswoman, Donna Wichers, said 25 percent had gone to Western Europe and Japan. At the moment, with the uranium market in a downturn, nothing is being shipped from the Wyoming mines.


In the next paragraph, the NYT article makes the point that even shipping it to Canada is counter to the agreement:
QUOTE:
The “no export” assurance given at the time of the Rosatom deal is not the only one that turned out to be less than it seemed. Despite pledges to the contrary, Uranium One was delisted from the Toronto Stock Exchange and taken private. As of 2013, Rosatom’s subsidiary, ARMZ, owned 100 percent of it.


You've ignored the point that given that this entire deal was conducted with people within the Russian government and otherwise who are criminals, it makes no sense to allow this deal to go through.
#4.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2017-10-20 17:31 (Reply)
mudbug: From the context of the paragraph and the article as a whole, it's pretty clear she's talking about yellowcake exported from the US to Canada

It's pretty clear from the context that that is what the reporters thought she said, but it is not clear from her statement itself.

The New York Times article may be correct, however, it hasn't been supported by other reporting. It's interesting that you assume it is correct, and the vast majority of more recent reporting is wrong.

There grant there may be more to the story, but drawing firm conclusions is not warranted.
#4.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-10-21 09:22 (Reply)
says the wapo. SOMETHING was returned, did they check what was actually in the barrels?

Wouldn't surprise me if it was rocks and sand, and the actual uranium made its way to Russia.
#4.1.1.2 JTW on 2017-10-20 23:17 (Reply)
Of course you're defending the Clintons, despite the overwhelming evidence of wrong-doing.
#4.2 DrTorch on 2017-10-20 14:37 (Reply)
Look, a squirrel!

The uranium came under Russian control.

And then there is the unadressed matter of the claim that the media coverage would be wildly different. The main point of the post, y'see.
#4.3 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2017-10-20 14:54 (Reply)
QUOTE:
No U.S. uranium actually left the country, of course.


And that's not the point, of course.
#4.4 drowningpuppies on 2017-10-20 16:26 (Reply)
The clattering site robot'(s) only point is to be a clattering site robot(s). It's working like a charm.
#4.4.1 Meh on 2017-10-20 18:59 (Reply)
Zach:

Go fuck your little twinkie cupcake self. You make me so tired.

I suggest a nice warm Unicorn urine favored cup of KoolAid to sooth you nerves.

Worst,

red
#4.5 tennesseered on 2017-10-21 07:15 (Reply)
And that's just ONE of a long list of things that have happened and have been ignored by the mainstream media.
#5 Jim on 2017-10-20 15:57 (Reply)

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