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Saturday, October 7. 2017

Killing Stats

I removed this post because it was misleading.

Posted by The News Junkie in Hot News & Misc. Short Subjects at 17:10 | Comments (7) | Trackbacks (0)

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I saw that and had the same questions you did.
#1 mudbug on 2017-10-07 18:42 (Reply)
I can't find a "Crime Statistics Bureau".
#2 fiftyville on 2017-10-07 19:39 (Reply)
It's a mishmash of collected statistics, and as it stands, is inaccurate. Even the inaccurate ones are related to some real fact, but they are better just not used in current form. TheFBI statistics are a little dry, but they tell the story better. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf
#3 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2017-10-07 21:48 (Reply)
Bad Stats.

The "B by . . ." cells add to 100%, and the "W killed by . . ." add to 100%., so at least that clarifies what it is trying to say -- of all b killed, 1 of 100 are killed by police, 2 of 100 by w (other than police) and the remainder by b (other than the police).

I haven't a clue what the source of the numbers is, but based upon similarity to 2014/2015 FBI stats, the number for "w killed by b is correctly 16% not 81%, and vice-versa for "w killed by w". In 2014 it was actually w responsible 8% of the b homicides, not 2%.

My trick for finding the source of infographics is to do a reverse image-search on Google and look for the use of the image with the highest image resolution - they tend to get smaller and more compressed as they spread, they never get larger and clearer. In this case the biggest I get is from former "advocacy journalist Juan Thompson" complaining at "the intercept" about the president retweeting a graphic from a racist twitterer, but we don't get any indication of who the alleged racist is.

But between the clip-art and the dodgy numbers I find it entirely plausible that this infographic was created by a racist in order to promote racism, and I wouldn't want to be associated with it at all.
#4 Douglas2 on 2017-10-07 22:25 (Reply)
I remember that being disputed over a year ago and I had to look up San Francisco data to confirm it. The actual numbers were not that far off. From memory, I think the blacks killed by police was 3% and the overall black on black murder rate was 91%. Those changes aren't strong enough to make the message of the meme wrong, that blacks are not being hunted by police and killed regularly, but I sure don't want or need messed up statistics to prove the that point.

I think it was created to make whites look gullible and racist when they shared it. It didn't work since the numbers were so horrible anyway that it didn't make a difference.
#5 molloaggie on 2017-10-08 01:13 (Reply)
We went to a gun show this weekend closer to an urban area than usual for our state. We found a good number of blacks attending and buying weapons which was a surprise as in years past attendance had been completely white. Our area has seen a lot of racial unrest and wondered if this was part of the result.
#6 JC on 2017-10-08 07:17 (Reply)
Good move.
#7 Gringo on 2017-10-08 13:12 (Reply)

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