We are a commune of inquiring, skeptical, politically centrist, capitalist, anglophile, traditionalist New England Yankee humans, humanoids, and animals with many interests beyond and above politics. Each of us has had a high-school education (or GED), but all had ADD so didn't pay attention very well, especially the dogs. Each one of us does "try my best to be just like I am," and none of us enjoys working for others, including for Maggie, from whom we receive neither a nickel nor a dime. Freedom from nags, cranks, government, do-gooders, control-freaks and idiots is all that we ask for.
Senator Cotton knows where the problem lies. All but the Buchananites are willing to compromise to one degree or another, but the GOP and Democrats have never offered anything that actually tightens up enforcement except in some hazy future. Well, we've seen what happens when they promise to pay us Tuesday for a hamburger today.
If they want "Dreamers" and work visas and amnesty then they have to give us real compromises that stops the flood today. They continually refuse. It's the one hill they are willing to die on, to not enforce our laws. So, we will remain at an impasse.
They are called "dreamers" because Democrats DREAM about importing illegal aliens to vote. It may get too risky to keep having more Dem votes than registered voters, if AG Sessions ever wakes up.
Maybe a compromise acceptable to Pelosi and Schumer would be to issue absentee ballots to all undocumented potential citizens (ie, everyone) in Mexico and Central America? If they vote Dem, they automatically become US Citizens? That would seem reasonable to GOPe leadership.
Ooh! Ooh! I've got an excellent idea for a DACA Dreamer Compromise. Let all these sweet, hardworking, tragically marooned youngsters stay in the US, and deport their line-bucking, border-jumping parents. But no more in-state tuition for Dreamers to get college educations on the public dime.
Jaybird: I vote "No" on that question. How about you?
Of course, we also know that if they are given permanent residence status but denied the possibility of ever becoming citizens with the right to vote the Democrats and their lackeys in the press will never let up with the sob stories about how UNFAIR it is.
Kurt, good vote.
Ooh ! Ooh!, (Call on me!) I've got an idea for your idea.
If any illegal alien registers, votes, or attempts to vote, (s)he can be immediately deported. If anyone solicits, assists or permits an illegal alien to vote, that person or entity shall be guilty of a felony with a mandatory 25 year prison sentence, as well as civil penalties.
Fraudulent voting is an extremely serious crime, which political government prosecutors don't want to address (because both Repub and Dem parties regard it as desirable and useful). Fraudulent voting should be regarded as one of the most serious felonies, because everything else in the rule of law depends on honest elections. There is a process in Federal Law, a qui tam action, which permits a civil entity/person to bring an action for the government, and receive fines. There should be qui tam legislation for civil suits brought by US Citizens/organizations against illegal aliens who vote, and those who assist/register/permit such voting. Put enforcement in the hands of non-politicians to prevent vote scams.
There has to be some ability to feel that you are a good person and your opponents are bad.
Assistant Village Idiot
I just find it amazing that the liberals and Democrats continue to pummel Trump when he did the best thing he possibly could for the Dreamers. A number of states were poised to sue the federal government on September 5 to have DACA declared unconstitutional (which it obviously is). DACA would have been held illegal by the courts, just as its companion DAPA was.
The simple course would have been for Trump to just invalidate Obama's illegal executive order, effective immediately. But, instead, he said he would delay the effective date six months in order to give Congress the chance to act to minimize the harm to Dreamers. And by doing it the way he did, he pretty much has now held off those that were poised to invalidate DACA in the courts (any federal judge worth his or her salt could easily come up with a reason to abstain or stall ruling for six months given Trump's order).
So the president has upheld the rule of law; he has tried to protect the Dreamers as much as he could; and he has put the monkey back on Congress' back where it belonged in the first place. The ones who are moaning now have to put their money where their mouths are.
That actually is a pretty skilled maneuver coming from someone who supposedly is incompetent to be president.