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"One of my wittier friends told me today “I’m starting a movement to ban Dixie cups.” If I’d have been less startled by his gallows humor I’d have replied – “Just wait a week. They’ll probably drop the ‘Dixie’ name themselves.”"

Tucker Carlson Rips ‘DREAMER’: “Don’t Americans Have the Right to Determine Who Comes to Their Country?”

Trump does not seem to know how to provide executive leadership.

The Deep State: How it Came to Be and Why it Fights so Hard - The members of the Deep State are fighting not only for money and power, but their very sense of being.

Vote fraud: What Are Democrats So Afraid Of?

Australia defends hardline immigration policy as keeping out 'undesirables'

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Labor Day and a little more confidence in the air ... We embrace with passion that 3% GDP revision. We have not seen that 3% GDP number for quite a long time, i.e., eight years of Obama!

The echo chamber is strong with this one. From the quote provided by the author: "Growth last quarter was the best since the first quarter of 2015".

In fact, the quarterly GDP growth rate was at least 3% eight times during the Obama Administration, including over 5% during the 3rd quarter of 2014.

#1 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 09:45 (Reply)

Re; SPLC, Antifa, and singing nuns

You just can't make this stuff up.

#2 mudbug on 2017-09-04 09:47 (Reply)

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NEW YORK TIMES RUNS OP-ED IN SUPPORT OF ANTIFA, VIOLENT PROTESTS

Uh, no. You may want to read the actual opinion piece.

Waiting for a Perfect Protest?

#3 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 09:59 (Reply)

How anyone can equate Antifa with civil rights, is beyond my comprehension. They are violent thugs and should be condemned by all of civilized society. They are a threat to liberty and self government, which is why the lefty democrats love them.

#3.1 B. Hammer on 2017-09-04 12:08 (Reply)

B. Hammer: How anyone can equate Antifa with civil rights, is beyond my comprehension.

They didn't make that claim, but it's clear you are conflating means and ends.

#3.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 13:04 (Reply)

I read it. They are making excuses for violence. They wring their hands about it, because they are "committed" to reducing violence, but the entire point of their op-ed is to tell moderate liberals that they are just going to have to put up with some violence. Sounds like support to me.

#3.2 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2017-09-04 14:58 (Reply)

Assistant Village Idiot: They wring their hands about it, because they are "committed" to reducing violence, but the entire point of their op-ed is to tell moderate liberals that they are just going to have to put up with some violence. Sounds like support to me.

There was violence during the Civil Rights Movements, despite the best efforts of many in leadership positions. Saying that some violence is often associated with protests for social change, and that this shouldn't be used as an excuse for non-action, is not "like support" for violence.

#3.2.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 15:45 (Reply)

They are telling moderates (and others) who revere MLK Jr.'s non violent methods that during his time, there was still violence. Then they go on to state that the violence on MLK's side was in self defense. The violence from the left is not self defense. It is aggressive. It is not about equal rights, it's about shutting down those with whom they disagree (if they wait long enough to find out what their victims have to say). They are generally Marxists or anarchists. They have nothing in common with MLK's movement yet they are excused by some because of who they attack and probably because they get some vicarious pleasure from their violence.

#3.2.1.1 mudbug on 2017-09-04 17:41 (Reply)

mudbug: They are telling moderates (and others) who revere MLK Jr.'s non violent methods that during his time, there was still violence

That is historically accurate.

mudbug: Then they go on to state that the violence on MLK's side was in self defense.

Some justified their violence as self-defense. Others wanted a violent overthrow of the system.

mudbug: The violence from the left is not self defense. It is aggressive.

Antifa argues that shutting down fascism in its inception IS self-defense. You don't have to agree with them to understand this.

mudbug: They are generally Marxists or anarchists. They have nothing in common with MLK's movement yet they are excused by some because of who they attack and probably because they get some vicarious pleasure from their violence.

While King was not a Marxist, there were a substantial number of Marxists involved in the civil rights movement, including some with a close association to King.

#3.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-05 09:30 (Reply)

Gandhi would differ.

#3.2.1.2 Jim on 2017-09-05 02:16 (Reply)

Jim: Gandhi would differ.

There was violence during the Indian Independence Movement, despite the best efforts of many in leadership positions.

#3.2.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-05 09:32 (Reply)

Exactly. Gandhi condemned it. Then he was assassinated.

#3.2.1.2.1.1 Jim on 2017-09-05 15:22 (Reply)

Gandhi rejected violence, but he didn't stop the drive for independence because of the violence associated with the movement. Gandhi, by the way, was assassinated only after independence was achieved.

#3.2.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-05 16:25 (Reply)

Thanks for the link, Z. I read the column and I think the authors are either more stupid or more dishonest than when I read the article from the original link.

The authors construct parallels between Antifa's violence and civil rights demonstrators engaging in self defense. You would have to be really blind to call Antifa's violence "self defense" since a prime target of their violence is people taking pictures or video. And what's with the masks?

They also seem to believe that their violence is anti racist or anti fascism. Apparently, all Antifa has to do is say the objects of their violence are racists or fascists for it to be justified in those clown's eyes. They will probably never be convinced otherwise, but they ought to wonder about their shutting down conservative college speakers or the free speech patriot prayer rally in San Francisco.

#3.3 mudbug on 2017-09-04 15:47 (Reply)

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As Christian clergy members, we place a high value on nonviolence. We are part of a national campaign that promotes proven solutions to reducing gun violence in our cities, and each of us has worked to achieve peace in our neighborhoods. But we know there has never been a time in American history in which movements for justice have been devoid of violent outbreaks.

#3.3.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 15:53 (Reply)

So you're saying that even though they are Christian clergy members who place a high value on nonviolence, they are apparently fine with aggressive violence? Shutting down free speech? Stealing and destroying cameras? Pummeling people who have not provoked or engaged in violence?

That's a Christian church I'm not familiar with.

#3.3.1.1 mudbug on 2017-09-04 16:32 (Reply)

mudbug: So you're saying that even though they are Christian clergy members who place a high value on nonviolence, they are apparently fine with aggressive violence?

They didn't indicate they were "fine with aggressive violence". Rather they said that the actions of a few shouldn't stop efforts towards racial and social justice.

#3.3.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-05 09:34 (Reply)

Fraud; What Dems are afraid of? Being proved fraudulent.

NYT on Harvey: More taxes is their go-to answer for most everything.

WaPo on Harvey and FEMA: One more reason to despise the WaPo.

Burning Man: I've read that Oregon's Oregon Country Fair stands in for B.M. there.

#4 Sam L. on 2017-09-04 10:25 (Reply)

Sam L: WaPo on Harvey and FEMA: One more reason to despise the WaPo.

Did you actually read the article in the Washington Post? Or just the headline?

#4.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 10:28 (Reply)

Heds are always true, except those in the WaPo. And the NYT.

#4.1.1 Sam L. on 2017-09-04 12:56 (Reply)

Sam L: Heds are always true, except those in the WaPo.

In other words, no, you didn't read the article.

#4.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-09-04 13:05 (Reply)

Go tell that long tongue liar
Go and tell that midnight rider
Tell the rambler,
The gambler,
The back biter
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down

Johnny Cash - God's Gonna Cut You Down

Joel Osteen is a very bad man.

#5 B. Hammer on 2017-09-04 10:40 (Reply)

And JR was a bad poet. A helluva lyricist and singer, but bad poetry. (Cringes as the Poetry Police attack.)

#5.1 BillH on 2017-09-04 11:01 (Reply)

"Trump does not seem to know how to provide executive leadership. "

Yep, it's true. That's why Trump has been such a failure all his life. Couldn't bring in construction projects in some of the toughest real estate/construction markets in the world. Couldn't overcome the competition in reality television. Couldn't wipe out two political dynasties, the political professionals in national politics, the bulk of the nation's news media and entertainers, nor do it all for less money.

I want to be a failure like Trump.

#6 JK Brown on 2017-09-04 11:02 (Reply)

"Trump does not seem to know how to provide executive pussywillow leadership." That any better?

#6.1 BillH on 2017-09-04 12:26 (Reply)

> Low Fat Diets Are Bad for Your Health

> How to Handle Your Two-Year-Old's Tantrums

> Gelato is not just another name for ice cream: the real stuff is lower in fat and tastes and behaves rather differently

So I guess you're saying Gelato is bad for my health?

In a related note, my daughter celebrated her 2nd birthday in Italy.

Which is where she first tasted Gelato.

And when she finished it she was VERY upset that it was gone and started to throw a tantrum. No, fer realz. I have a picture.

#7 William O. B'Livion on 2017-09-04 11:50 (Reply)

Gelato is for mental health. Especially the Hazelnut.

#7.1 Bird Dog on 2017-09-04 12:05 (Reply)

After seeing those myriad of six-figure salaries plus expense accounts going to the leadership, I will never donate to the Red Cross. Even after the storm over this news several years ago, they haven't changed their ways and continue to divert money given for a specific disaster to others more of their own liking.

The IRS needs to do some heavy housekeeping on not-for-profits of every form starting with The Clinton Foundation and its octopussy tenacles, then the multiple "religious" organizations that sneak illegals over our borders for a fee.

#8 jma on 2017-09-04 11:54 (Reply)

MONTANA BURNS

How? How does one loose nearly 50,000 acres over night? This fire doubled overnight. It is only one fire in western Montana and not at all connected to the fire in Glacier Park. Thankfully they are finally changing out the "leadership" team. Something is terribly wrong in here in Montana this summer.

America's loss

http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/keci/rice-ridge-fire-outside-seeley-lake-grows-to-over-100000-acres/616352673

#9 Apple Pie on 2017-09-04 12:29 (Reply)

Joel Osteen and his church got a bad rap on this one. People love to hate him. I'm not fond of his theology, but the accusations against him are not accurate.

http://www.faithwire.com/2017/08/29/here-is-the-complete-story-behind-the-attacks-on-joel-osteens-lakewood-church/

#10 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2017-09-04 13:46 (Reply)

Baby boomers ruined America

At last somebody has done the necessary research to build this claim into a reasonable statement of fact ! There is a flaw in this work however--it has been decided by even the baby boomers themselves that their generation begins in 1948. After their GI daddy's got home and started making some money or going to school on the GI Bill. Those of us born before 1948 (1938-1948) should be thought of as the over run generation. While our education process took longer because we had to work our way through school, the baby boomers were beginning to reap the benefits of larger student loans and grants. Therefore when they graduated from university we had not yet gotten our own foothold in the marketplace! Most importantly these people had been taught to organize and pull each other along, which is what they did from the moment they burst out the doors of higher ed! We had been taught to pursue the American dream as individuals. Anyway, this is

a good read

http://www.mensjournal.com/entertainment/articles/the-age-of-entitlement-how-the-baby-boomers-ruined-everything-w472897

#11 faculty wife on 2017-09-04 14:42 (Reply)

I feel good about myself today, I have never heard of Burning Man festival. Now I'm going to try and forget I ever read that article.

#12 L.B. on 2017-09-04 19:00 (Reply)

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