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Wednesday, August 23. 2017

Shark feasts on seal in video, causes panic on Cape Cod beach

Not vegans yet

Cannabis shows inconsistent benefits for pain, PTSD

Basically, some people love weed, some don't. I don't. It made me feel paranoid.

The New Yorker: Who owns the internet?

The news' memory hole

James T. Hodgkinson, Attempted Assassin Of Steve Scalise, Already Being Erased From History

"The only people who are nostalgic for Communism are those who did not have to live under it."

The New York Times thinks corporations now serve as the moral voice of America.

Not from The Onion: ESPN pulled Asian announcer Robert Lee off the UVa home opener to avoid offending viewers

Jeh Johnson Demonstrates Why We Need Limited Government

Civil war history is a threat to homeland security

Alan Dershowitz Defies Democrats: I’m Against Destroying Art and Statues “We’re Not the Taliban. We’re Not Stalin”

“The issue is never the issue, the issue is always revolution”

CNN: Trump a threat to national security

Also, he is demented, a sexist, and a Nazi. Where do you go from there?

Mattis Just Took an Unannounced Trip to ISIS´s Doorstep to Personally Tell Them They´re About to Die

AFGHANISTAN AND “NATION BUILDING”

Spain: Barcelona Attack Was Preventable

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This idea of nation building is in such contrast to what we really do as people. I think Nassim Taleb put it best in this article. https://medium.com/incerto/peace-neither-ink-nor-blood-4657956c82ac To quote from the article - "Even myself, while aware of the point and writing a chapter on it, tend to find accounts of real life boring."

#1 Ted Braun on 2017-08-23 08:08 (Reply)

We can't build a nation if the populace does not want it. Which certainly seems to be the case in Afghanistan.

#1.1 Sam L. on 2017-08-23 12:02 (Reply)

Well, a big part of the problem is the professors inculcated the idea of imposing democracy, but never trying to help other nations form a republic, except as PR in the formal name.

Most of your Poli Sci professors hate America's Constitutional government. They yearn for a parliament as sovereign where they can become technocrats.

#1.1.1 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 12:51 (Reply)

Re: the issue is always revolution

In the 1960s, the Radical Left demanded free speech and power. Once they gained power, they suddenly demand an end to free speech.

Kinda makes a guy wonder what they were after all along....

#2 Another guy named Dan on 2017-08-23 10:26 (Reply)

QUOTE:

The Social Democrats were democratic only so long as they were not the ruling party; that is, so long as they still felt themselves not strong enough to suppress their opponents by force. The moment they thought themselves the strongest, they declared themselves— as their writers had always asserted was advisable at this point— for dictatorship. Only when the armed bands of the Rightist parties had inflicted bloody defeats on them did they again become democratic “until further notice.” Their party writers express this by saying: “In the councils of the social democratic parties, the wing which declared for democracy triumphed over the one which championed dictatorship.”

Of course, the only party that may properly be described as democratic is one that under all circumstances— even when it is the strongest and in control— champions democratic institutions.

Mises, Ludwig von (1927). Liberalism

#2.1 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 12:52 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Alan Dershowitz Defies Democrats: I’m Against Destroying Art and Statues “We’re Not the Taliban. We’re Not Stalin”

Neither are most Democrats, who think, in Dershowitz's words, "maybe they should be moved to museums to where they can be explained to young students."

#3 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 10:40 (Reply)

Teach those young children how to read and put up a plaque describing the circumstances. Put this in the public square not squirreled away in some musty museum. Let the children learn as they play.

#3.1 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 12:55 (Reply)

JK Brown: Teach those young children how to read and put up a plaque describing the circumstances. Put this in the public square not squirreled away in some musty museum.

Why should monuments to a rebellious slave republic be left in the public square?

#3.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:20 (Reply)

Why should monuments to a rebellious slave republic be left in the public square?

It's part of American history.

#3.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 14:29 (Reply)

So is Benedict Arnold. So is Hitler for that matter.

#3.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:32 (Reply)

Strawman Alert!

#3.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:02 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Strawman Alert!

Hardly. Your argument was that because someone was part of American history, it is appropriate to put up a statue to them in the public square. That is clearly not the case. There are a number of valid reasons to erect a statue. The issue is whether a 60-foot monument to a military officer of a breakaway republic based on slavery and white supremacy is appropriate in the center of Richmond.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:10 (Reply)

Shifting The Goalpost Alert!

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:14 (Reply)

Hardly. Your argument was that we didn't argue your actual position, when it is clear that we directly addressed it.

There are a number of valid reasons to erect a statue. The issue is whether a 60-foot monument to a military officer of a breakaway republic based on slavery and white supremacy is appropriate in the center of Richmond.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:23 (Reply)

"we" :)

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Dr. Mercury (Link) on 2017-08-24 05:33 (Reply)

Funny! I think the same thing every time Zach uses "we". Hilarious!

Side note to Zach: Using the editorial 'we' only counts if -- you know -- you're actually an editor.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 JJ on 2017-08-24 07:05 (Reply)

Neither Benedict Arnold nor Adolph Hitler have any statues erected to honor them, as far as I know.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:26 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Neither Benedict Arnold nor Adolph Hitler have any statues erected to honor them, as far as I know.

That's right. Which argues against your claim that just because someone is part of American history, there should be a large statue to them in the town square.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:49 (Reply)

I made no such claim.
Stop lying.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 18:05 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Why should monuments to a rebellious slave republic be left in the public square?

drowningpuppies: It's part of American history.

You work very hard to avoid being specific, and for no particular purpose. You are apparently drawing a distinction between erecting statues, and leaving statues that have already been erected. So we will rephrase.

Why should monuments to a rebellious slave republic be allowed in the public square?

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-24 09:29 (Reply)

So y'all admit I made no such claim.
Thanks, kidz.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-24 10:23 (Reply)

Why should monuments to a rebellious slave republic be allowed in the public square?

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-24 10:51 (Reply)

Further to my post of a few days ago, they are now looking at pulling down a war memorial on the Chapel Hill campus to UNC students who died in the Civil War:

http://www.wral.com/unc-student-arrested-after-hundreds-protest-at-unc-chapel-hill-silent-sam-monument/16898155/

Another act of desecration just around the corner.

#3.2 Jim on 2017-08-23 13:20 (Reply)

Jim: they are now looking at pulling down a war memorial on the Chapel Hill campus to UNC students who died in the Civil War

The "now" in your statement is misplaced. Silent Sam has been controversial for decades.

#3.2.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:29 (Reply)

QUOTE:

The left could care less about this issue (Confederate statuary), as they could care less about any of their issues. “The issue is never the issue, the issue is always revolution”. This is why they got gay marriage, then just moved on to Trans rights while shrugging off 50 gays getting killed in Orlando. When the transgender fight is over it’ll be pedo rights or whatever.

Overgeneralization by equating "the left" with some of its most extreme elements.

#4 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 10:42 (Reply)

Also, he is demented, a sexist, and a Nazi. Where do you go from there? This morning they're all harping that Trump is mentally unstable, insane. Usual suspects all came out at once, MSNBC, CNN, James Clapper et al. I guess nazism and racism have gone the way of Russian collusion. Some day some of these people are going to realize how ridiculous they look doing this.

#5 BillH on 2017-08-23 10:42 (Reply)

Bird Dog: Also, he is demented, a sexist, and a Nazi. Where do you go from there?

Felony charges?

BillH: I guess nazism and racism have gone the way of Russian collusion.

Actually, few claim Trump is an actual Nazi, despite his authoritarian impulses. Rather, he did seem to be making excuses for people flying Nazi flags. As for racism, Trump has made multiple racist statements, such as the comment that he didn't think a sitting judge could be fair because he is a "Mexican". (The judge was born in Indiana.) Meanwhile, the Russian investigation continues.

#5.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 10:54 (Reply)

"We know he's guilty of something, we'll just keep investigating until we find the charge" - what passes for due process on the left these days

#5.1.1 Another guy named Dan on 2017-08-23 11:12 (Reply)

Another guy named Dan: "We know he's guilty of something, we'll just keep investigating until we find the charge"

The investigation is well-warranted, as there is evidence that the Russia attempted to meddle in the U.S. election, including by hacking into the DNC. The degree of Russian involvement, and those they may have used, knowingly or unknowingly, is something important to understand.

#5.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 11:18 (Reply)

The only "evidence" of Russian "hacking" was "provided" by Crowdstrike.

http://g-2.space/#4

#5.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 11:38 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: The only "evidence" of Russian "hacking" was "provided" by Crowdstrike.

Actually, CrowdStrike's findings have been supported by other independent investigations, including ThreatConnect, SecureWorks, Fidelis Security, and the U.S. Intelligence Community.

#5.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 11:50 (Reply)

Yet you provide no independent source to back your claim.
ThreatConnect used "evidence" supplied by Crowdstrike.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 12:04 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: http://g-2.space/#4 " None of Guccifer2.0's claims of hacking were independently verifiable and several were debunked by ThreatConnect. - There is nothing demonstrating Guccifer2.0 was really a hacker."

Guccifer 2.0 was not the source of the hacks, so not sure why you think this is important. Note the timeline puts the hacks as having occurred before June 2016.

#5.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 11:55 (Reply)

Guccifer 2.0 was not the source of the hacks.

Agreed. The persona was invented to cover up evidence of an insider leak at the DNC to Wikileaks and to try to tie it the "Russians".

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 12:12 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: The persona was invented to cover up evidence of an insider leak at the DNC to Wikileaks and to try to tie it the "Russians".

The vast majority of experts, private and government, are confident that Russian agents were involved in the hack.

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 12:16 (Reply)

Crowdstrike is the only group that has directly analyzed the DNC servers. Other groups including Threat Connect have used the information provided by Crowdstrike to claim that Russians hacked the DNC. However, their evaluation was based solely on information ultimately provided by Crowdstrike; this places the company in the unique position of being the only direct source of evidence that a hack occurred.

https://disobedientmedia.com/2017/07/new-research-shows-guccifer-2-0-files-were-copied-locally-not-hacked/

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 12:27 (Reply)

The President himself described “the conclusions of the intelligence community” as “not conclusive,”.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.2 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 12:49 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Other groups including Threat Connect have used the information provided by Crowdstrike to claim that Russians hacked the DNC.

That is simply incorrect. ThreatConnect has independently monitored Russian activity to reach their own conclusions.

drowningpuppies: The President himself described “the conclusions of the intelligence community” as “not conclusive,”.

The President and his team have made many demonstrably false and misleading statements concerning Russian involvement with the campaign.

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.3 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:28 (Reply)

Addressing this point at his last press conference (January 18), he described “the conclusions of the intelligence community” as “not conclusive,” even though the Intelligence Community Assessment of January 6 expressed “high confidence” that Russian intelligence “relayed material it acquired from the DNC … to WikiLeaks.”

Obama’s admission came as no surprise to us. It has long been clear to us that the reason the U.S. government lacks conclusive evidence of a transfer of a “Russian hack” to WikiLeaks is because there was no such transfer.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/

So was the President making a demonstrably false and
misleading statement?

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.3.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 14:48 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: So was the President making a demonstrably false and misleading statement?

If you are referring to Obama, the comment is out of context, which concerned whether WikiLeaks was a witting or unwitting participant in the hacks. In the future, you may want to try to refer to primary sources rather than relying on quote-mines from those who prey on your preconceptions.

#5.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.3.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:57 (Reply)

Way to move those goalposts.

What felony are you alleging Trump has committed, Citing statue and US code or other means that will determine a specific case or controversy? "He may generally be involved with something that may or may not be illegal but I don't like" won't support an affidavit for subpoena or warrant in a sane country.

#5.1.1.1.2 Another guy named Dan on 2017-08-23 12:06 (Reply)

Another guy named Dan: Way to move those goalposts.

Way to move those goalposts. The question was "Where do you go from there?" The answer was in the form of a question: "Felony charges?"

Another guy named Dan: What felony are you alleging Trump has committed, Citing statue and US code or other means that will determine a specific case or controversy?

It's doubtful his finances would stand the light of day, and there have been repeated lies them; but at this point, there are no charges pending, so it's best to let the process play out according to the rule of law.

#5.1.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 12:14 (Reply)

It's doubtful his finances would stand the light of day

Doubtful to whom?
The IRS?

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 13:42 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Doubtful to whom?

We know large sums of Russian money flowed into the Trump organization in the past. We know the Russians have engaged in cyber-warfare against the U.S. and its allies. We know the Russians interfered in the U.S. election for Trump's benefit.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:50 (Reply)

Y'all seem to "know" all these things but y'all never provide any substantial proof.
That's why your accusations cannot be taken seriously.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:09 (Reply)

Zachriel: We know large sums of Russian money flowed into the Trump organization in the past.

drowningpuppies: Y'all seem to "know" all these things but y'all never provide any substantial proof.

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets.” — Donald Trump Jr.

“We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” — Donald Trump Jr.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:17 (Reply)

So it's okay for y'all to take quotes out of context to bolster your own preconceptions.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:36 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: So it's okay for y'all to take quotes out of context to bolster your own preconceptions.

In what way are the quotes out of context?

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:52 (Reply)

Zachriel: We know the Russians have engaged in cyber-warfare against the U.S. and its allies.

drowningpuppies: Y'all seem to "know" all these things but y'all never provide any substantial proof.

Russia has not only engaged in cyber-warfare against the U.S., but has engaged in cyber-warfare against U.S. allies in Europe. In Ukraine, they even went so far as to take control of the electrical grid in the capital.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:21 (Reply)

Over-generalizing in order to equate the Trump campaign with colluding with Russia.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:42 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Over-generalizing in order to equate the Trump campaign with colluding with Russia.

You seem to lose track so easily. You expressed concern about whether we could substantiate claims concerning Russian money flowing into the Trump organization, or that Russia has engaged in cyber-warfare against the U.S. and its allies.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:55 (Reply)

Nah, I just enjoy using your meaningless words against your own biases.

#5.1.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.2.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 16:42 (Reply)

What 'authoritarian impulses'? Please explain. He is following the law and the Constitution. None of that is 'authoritarian' in the least. We have Congress and the courts to rein in any 'authoritarianism.' Too bad Congress was too wimpy to rein in the real authoritarian - Obama - who defied the law and targeted people unequally.

His ideas about immigration? Tied to current federal law - including the wall.

His ideas about trade? Tied to current powers of a president to negotiate trade with other countries.

His ideas about getting rid of regulations? Tied to current powers and federal law.

There are zero 'authoritarian' moves. A president has powers to shape the departments he is in charge of and also to implement and follow laws.

#5.1.2 MissT on 2017-08-23 12:01 (Reply)

MissT: We have Congress and the courts to rein in any 'authoritarianism.'

Certainly, U.S. institutions are quite resilient, though not unbreakable. However, Trump acts as if Congress and the Courts are under his authority, that he determines what constitutes the rule of law, has advised police to rough up suspects, threatened to lock up his political opponent, all the while relentlessly attacking the press. He has aligned himself with authoritarians, such as Duterte and Putin, while distancing himself from democratic leaders, such as Merkel. While every president tests the limits of executive powers, these are the impulses of an authoritarian.

#5.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 12:11 (Reply)

While every president tests the limits of executive powers, these are the impulses of an authoritarian.

In your biased opinion.

#5.1.2.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 12:55 (Reply)

Once again, where are the 'authoritarian impulses'? Everything you quoted is ridiculous on its face. Why no fear of 'authoritarian impulses' that Obama displayed? Such as targeting police for civil rights violations when none existed? Funneling settlement money that should have gone to the U.S. Treasury to his pet project leftist groups? Allowing the IRS to target Tea Party and conservative groups (court cases STILL going on today)? I could go on.

Yet, you want to point the finger at Trump? Silliness.

Trump has followed the law. He is not breaking any laws, nor is he using the departments under his authority to illegally target one group over another.

You are aware that the President typically leads his party and the policies and bills that come out of Congress, right? This is the first time I can remember that we have a majority in Congress (House & Senate) and the presidency, yet Congress refuses to work with Trump. So Trump is absolutely right in criticizing the legislators in his party for not doing their job and following the will of the American voter who put Trump into office.

Nothing authoritarian about it whatsoever.

#5.1.2.1.2 MissT on 2017-08-23 14:15 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: In your biased opinion

We provided reasons — which you then ignored.

MissT: Everything you quoted is ridiculous on its face.

Attacking the "Lügenpresse" is nearly always the first step of authoritarianism.

MissT: Trump has followed the law. He is not breaking any laws

Actually, when the courts have ruled that Trump exceeded his authority, he has lashed out at the courts, when the proper course is to respect the court as a co-equal branch of the government, then appeal the decision.

"Let there be no doubt, while I strongly disagree with the court's decision, I accept it." — Al Gore, 2000.

#5.1.2.1.3 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:37 (Reply)

We provided reasons — which you then ignored.

I always ignore your biased "reasons".

#5.1.2.1.3.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 14:58 (Reply)

"Rather, he did seem to be making excuses for people flying Nazi flags. As for racism, Trump has made multiple racist statements, such as the comment that he didn't think a sitting judge could be fair because he is a "Mexican". (The judge was born in Indiana.) "

Well, back in reality, Trump called out the violence from both sides and was mature enough to know that not all those caught up in that day were advocates of either violent group.

Seeing reality and stating reality is a sign of good mental health and maturity. Being unable to see both sides of a conflict clearly is an indication of an immature mind.

First off, "Mexican" is not a race and in America when citizenship is not in doubt as would with a sitting judge, almost everyone uses the heritage label, such as Mexican, Italian, Irish, etc. as shorthand when heritage is indicative. Only "African-American" gets special treatment normally.

#5.1.3 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 13:03 (Reply)

JK Brown: Trump called out the violence from both sides and was mature enough to know that not all those caught up in that day were advocates of either violent group.

There was some violence on both sides, but only one side marched with Nazi flags, and engaged in an act of terrorism against otherwise peaceful marchers.

#5.1.3.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:40 (Reply)

So you ignore the flags and symbols displayed by the Antifa?
Toolz for anarchy.

#5.1.3.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:47 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: So you ignore the flags and symbols displayed by the Antifa?

Not at all. Many in the Antifa movement are, indeed, anarchists. (Hint: This means they are not fascists.) So? They are wrong about anarchy. And when they engage in illegal activity, they should be brought to justice.

Anarchism is not the same as Nazism.

#5.1.3.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:58 (Reply)

The Antifa are just as evil as the Fascists maybe more so. .
Stop kidding yourselvez

#5.1.3.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 19:26 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: The Antifa are just as evil as the Fascists maybe more so.

In what way are those who fight against fascists "just as evil" as the fascists who drove a car into a crowd?

#5.1.3.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-24 09:32 (Reply)

... the fascists who drove a car into a crowd?

See, y'all are projecting again but that's what y'all do.

#5.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-24 10:47 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: See, y'all are projecting again but that's what y'all do.

In fact, it was a neo-Nazi who committed a terrorist act in Charlottesville by driving a car into a crowd of counterprotesters.

#5.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-24 10:54 (Reply)

Why, yes, yes it was.
Glad you admit to.. err,... your misstatement of the the incident.

#5.1.3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-24 11:21 (Reply)

JK Brown: First off, "Mexican" is not a race and in America when citizenship is not in doubt as would with a sitting judge

Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity.

"Claiming a person can't do their job because of their race is sort of like the textbook definition of a racist comment." — Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House of Representatives

#5.1.3.2 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:43 (Reply)

Nor is 'Mexican' an ethnicity but y'all already knew that.

#5.1.3.2.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:58 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Nor is 'Mexican' an ethnicity but y'all already knew that.

Calling someone a tacohead is an ethnic slur, even if you wave your hands furiously. When you say someone can't be fair because of their ancestry, it's commonly called racism or an ethnic slur.

#5.1.3.2.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 16:12 (Reply)

I don't recall Trump calling anyone tacohead.
Y'all are the ones to introduce that slur to this thread.
Stop using your hateful slurs.

#5.1.3.2.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 19:55 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Y'all are the ones to introduce that slur to this thread.

It's a counterexample to your claim that using a slur to refer to Mexicans is not considered an ethnic slur.

#5.1.3.2.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-24 09:34 (Reply)

Once again I never made that claim. You did.
Believe y'all are doing some more of your linguistic tap dancing.
Some call it "projection".

#5.1.3.2.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-24 10:36 (Reply)

Re. the shark attack. Rabbits scream when a coyote or a big owl gets them too.

#6 annieoakley on 2017-08-23 10:51 (Reply)

Not the rabbit my brother's country dog snatched out of the grass, tossed up and swallowed whole. It didn't make a sound, at least outside the belly of the beast.

#6.1 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 13:05 (Reply)

"The only people who are nostalgic for Communism are those who did not have to live under it."

Same can be said for slavery.

I remember a thought experiment about slavery, but it works for communism. We vote to reinstate slavery/communism(socialism), then we draw lots to see who will be master and who will be slave, who will be holders of important offices and who will be common citizens.

Most people demurred when their privileged position in the society was not assured.

#7 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 12:46 (Reply)

“We’re Not the Taliban. We’re Not Stalin”

"We" are not, but the Democrats sure seem to aspire to be...

#8 JK Brown on 2017-08-23 12:47 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Black people who were never slaves are fighting white people who were never Nazis over a Confederate statue erected by Democrats.
Why? Because Democrats can't stand their history anymore and somehow it's Trump's fault?

The definition of insanity.

#9 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 13:57 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Black people who were never slaves are fighting white people who were never Nazis over a Confederate statue erected by Democrats.

"Jews will not replace us!"

#9.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 14:47 (Reply)

Settle down, kidz. Y'all know the entire quote is accurate.

#9.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 15:30 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: Y'all know the entire quote is accurate.

"fighting white people who were never Nazis"

What part of "Jews will not replace us" and swastikas do you not understand?

#9.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 15:51 (Reply)

What part of NAZI do y'all not understand?.

https://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2017/08/19/new-antifa-flag-remind-anything/

#9.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 16:06 (Reply)

Nutzis!
Another peaceful protester.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/900213190356869121

#9.1.1.1.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 16:13 (Reply)

That's not the usual Antifa flag. You might want to provide another image, such as it being carried in a protest.

#9.1.1.1.1.2 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 16:21 (Reply)

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/craig-bannister/protesters-storm-govt-building-burn-county-flag-hoist-antifa-flag

#9.1.1.1.1.2.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 16:32 (Reply)

http://antifaunited.bigcartel.com/

#9.1.1.1.1.2.1.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 16:37 (Reply)

Proving the point. It's not the same flag.

#9.1.1.1.1.2.1.2 Zachriel on 2017-08-23 16:42 (Reply)

Did y'all enjoy the video of the Nutzi?

#9.1.1.1.1.2.1.2.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-23 16:46 (Reply)

drowningpuppies: I always ignore your biased "reasons".

So you are an admitted troll.

Let us know if and when you wish to engage a discussion of the topic of the thread.

#10 Zachriel on 2017-08-24 10:53 (Reply)

What? You kidz don't want to play anymore or are you just all tuckered out from all of your linguistic tap dancing?

#10.1 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-24 11:07 (Reply)

Well, did y'all enjoy the video of the Nutzi?
Y'all never answered.

Here's another you may like.

http://www.dailywire.com/news/20140/top-5-versions-antifa-protester-being-hit-balls-jacob-airey

#10.2 drowningpuppies on 2017-08-24 11:57 (Reply)

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