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Web Giants to Cooperate on Removal of Extremist Content-
Who determines what is "extremist?" The EU is not pro life. (I'll find this link later when I have time). This is even more shocking to me though- France recently voted to ban pro life websites. They must be taken down or the owners face fines. France also banned a profile television commercial featuring Down Syndrome children because it might cause "feelings of guilt in women who have had abortions". It's a free speech issue. And a human rights issue. https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/breaking-socialist-french-gvmt-votes-to-criminalize-pro-life-websites The banned video:http://www.oneofus.eu/tb_video/dear-future-mom/ In France, until the next election. If it goes as expected right now, the rightists will take charge and go to (somewhat more palatable) extremes, same as the leftists have done while they were in power. That's France.
LP: This is even more shocking to me though- France recently voted to ban pro life websites.
That is incorrect. Pro-life websites are not banned, just pro-life websites that pretend to provide objective, medical advice, but don't. LP: France also banned a profile television commercial featuring Down Syndrome children This is much less defensible, because there is nothing in the ad which is deceptive. Z, I haven't read the new law, but the article I read described it as banning misleading websites, as you said, but also:
Z, yes, you are correct; it does ban misleading websites, but also bans: "...websites that exert psychological or moral pressure to discourage recourse to abortion." Which effectively means that you cannot voice any moral opinion, because it might pressure someone, or discourage them, right? One of the best books I've read on the subject is Hadley Arkus' "Natural Rights and the Right to Choose". He brilliantly discusses how by allowing the right to abortion, we are effectively giving away every right and freedom that we have as humans, because we are giving up our justification to claim any rights at all. He explains it better. Its a worthwhile read. The "Union of Concerned Scientists" is a fraudulent title. It's simply an advocacy group open to anyone willing to pay dues. It is also a comedy in re: to science, as their statements consistently are logically fallacious, w/ logic being a necessary underpinning to the scientific method.
As for having a red/blue divide, once again this is overstated. I have met several politically conservative scientists, with world-class credentials, in varying niches of chemistry and physics. In fact for several years I didn't meet any scientists who accepted the AGW hypothesis. The only ones pushing it were low-level engineers who could do nothing to support their claims except repeat what was written in mainstream news. It follows the expression: The uneducated believes X The educated believes Y The expert believes X Re: "CBS Pushed Swine Flu Myth"
In the story the author cannot help themselves from going to the belief that the MMR vaccine causes autism. This article was a hit piece ironically calling out CBS for fake news. I am aware that a researcher in a sudden inexplicable blurting out declared that he/they hid results that showed that the MMR caused autism. That researcher was always a believer in the MMR-autism connection and his claim has been totally debunked. However that means nothing to Infowars. As for the CDC pushing a fake swine flu claim. There is probably a germ of truth to this. Was it done maliciously? Unlikely. Swine flu is a legitimate fear and it would be reasonable for the CDC to report early if they thought that swine flu was going to be a factor in the coming flu season. I believe where it went off the rails was as evidence began to come in that it was not going to be a swine flu epidemic that the CDC didn't do enough to make that clear. A possible motive is simply that any declaration by CDC that the flu was not going to be serious that year would translate into fwer people getting the flu shot. I suspect that if this 'oversight' by the CDC was intentional it was done to prevent the public from ignoring the still present risk that flu presents to thousands who die from it every year. Maybe that is wrong; that is treating us all like children who believe in myths and need to be scared to take our medicine... Except that seems to be the case. QUOTE: CBS Pushed Swine Flu Myth Funny. QUOTE: Vaxxed exposes a huge scandal at the CDC Vaxxed "was directed by discredited anti-vaccine activist Andrew Wakefield, whose license to practice medicine in the United Kingdom was revoked due to ethical violations related to his fraudulent research into the role of vaccines in autism." QUOTE: So, as a mind-changer, let me take you back to the late summer of 2009, and the Swine Flu epidemic, which was hyped to the sky by the CDC. In fact, swine flu, similar to the strain that killed millions in the early 20th century, has had numerous outbreaks, and vaccination is the appropriate response to create herd immunity. Fred: "If we don't put the fire out now, it could burn the town down!" {Fred rings bell, townsfolk put out fire} Sam: "Fred is such an alarmist." the only people at risk for dying "from" influenza" are the immune suppressed, yet they push flu shots on everyone... because Big Pharma. Those counted deceased from "influenza" by the CDC include those on chemo, kidney dialysis, immune suppressed treatment for autoimmune diseases, so they weren't exactly a picture of health to begin with. But the illusion that you should never ever get sick needs to be ingrained into the american psyche.
I don't get flu shots because I believe natural immunity is better than taking a shot in the dark over what flu is going to be circulating that year AND the supposed inert ingredients make me sicker than a dog, so I'll take my chances. This might be the same for the MMR vaccine. It's not the MMR killed or inactive viral agents that cause autistic spectrum disorder, but the fact that the amped up immunization schedule is overworking the infant's immune systems and/or the inert ingredients are causing an encephalitic type reaction or infection during a highly developmental stage of the young. some of the symptoms of people on the autism spectrum look eerily like the some of the survivors of the Spanish Influenza of 1918. When you are close to someone who gets influenza, or get it yourself, you will change your tune. If you're still here. "...look eerily like..." is crap reasoning and is dangerous. Of course the more compromised are more in danger. It does not mean the others are safe. And the compromised ones would probably not like it that you choose to walk around in public with something that can kill them.
You do know that what you "believe" about immunity - your theory of what you would like to be true - has nothing to do with reality, right? Viruses don't ask you what your beliefs are. I have liked many of your comments before. You now have zero credibility with me. Had a bout of flu in '86... it was a miserable time. Went into work feeling good, around 9 I started feeling chilly, around 10:30 the boss said "Damn, you're looking like shit. You'd better get on home."
I made it, then had a marvelous time over five days trying to figure out how to get enough fluids down and take some painkillers, figuring out which end to hang over the toilet, and generally shaking with chills and burning with fever. After it broke, it took me two more days to get back to work and the better part of a month to get back to feeling normal. So - hell yes I'll take the blasted shot. I don't EVER want to go through that again. Son's gotten all his shots - never had the mumps, measles, rubella and chicken pox like I did. Thank god for vaccinations. . I think I must never have had the flu. I've had viruses of some kind that made me sicker than a cold, with some fever that persisted over a few days, but that's about it--nothing like the horrors that I hear described. I did finally get my first flu shot this year. I believe in an obligation to increase herd immunity even if I'm lucky enough never to have gotten a bad strain, or lucky enough to have some kind of natural immunity to the worst of it. I also got a shingles shot and am pretty good about keeping my tetanus vaccination up to date. I can imagine some risks associated with vaccination, but I guess on the whole I'm willing to take them.
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Texan99
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2016-12-06 17:22
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wow. so i'm an anti-vaxxer because I don't agree with pushing flu shots on everyone?
Do you know what informed consent is? that the health professionals don't tell you that if you are allergic to eggs the flu shot could possibly send you to the hospital or kill you? That there is a 1 in 10 chance that the variants the CDC used for the shot are even circulating through the population? That the flu shot itself can and does cause encephalitis reaction in some individuals? No. they don't. That viruses mutate constantly as they circulate through a population it's called antigenic drift. Even if they do get the correct combination of variants, the virus itself changes significantly enough that the strain when it reaches you is likely not recognized by your immune system because of the genetic changes that have occurred during it's tranmission. The HPV vaccine that they push on adults with the guilt trip commercial spoken by kids? That's a sexually transmitted disease. You're not going to catch HPV walking down the street. Don't notice that mentioned in the commercial. And there are many documented cases of serious side effects with the HPV vaccine. and I wasn't alluding to the flu shot causing autism. 8-9% of our DNA comes from alien viral sources; viral. Human endogenus retroviruses. Some characteristics of autism are similar or identical to behaviors of people who have been affected with encephalitis, which is frequently caused by viruses. Since a large portion of the population of are descendants of survivors of the Spanish Influenza it's not that far fetched that it's genetic. I think it is totally appropriate for an adult to make their own decision about the flu shot. I lean towards agreeing that a healthy adult between 18-65 probably can fend off the flu if they get it. However I have grand kids and before that I had my own kids and their friends. What is my responsibility towards them?
I agree that there are a lot of vaccinations for children. Obviously the reason they are all given so early is simply we don't want our babies and toddlers to die. But the question I have for any anti-vaxer is what disease do you want your kids/grandkids to get? I believe that vaccinations alone have saved billions of lives in the last 60 years or so. A medical miracle! Antibiotics have probably saved almost as many lives in the last 70 years or so. Another medical miracle. Some people are allergic to antibiotics and vaccines and there is a very tiny percentage of the population that have side effects. Should vaccines and antibiotics be abandoned because a very small percentage of people have side effects from them? That would be crazy. I got influenza when I was pregnant-- ended up in the ER with heart palpitations, delivered my daughter prematurely. She was underweight and suffered from jaundice, which kept her in the hospital for an extra stay. (All eventually turned out OK, thank God, but it could easily have gone the other way-- for example, if my daughter hadn't gotten enough antibodies from me and got the flu herself.)
The guy who gave it to me came in to work despite a fever, because he "just had to get stuff done". He got four other people sick too, one of whom ended up hospitalized for three days, with dehydration and hallucinations. Moral of the story: you have NO IDEA who around you is vulnerable to what you're sick with, NO IDEA how dangerous this "mild" thing could be, NO IDEA how much permanent damage you could be doing to the people around you. Sure, nobody's going to force you to take the flu shot. But if your kid's going to school with my kids, then damn skippy he's going to have a full set of shots first, including MMR. (You have NO IDEA what measles or rubella does to pregnant women or newborns.) And if you've got a fever or cough, STAY HOME, or I personally will kick your ever-lovin' ***. "Obama administration fails to check immigrants against FBI databases, approves citizenship"
It's not a failure if it's policy, even unwritten policy. oh please, oh please don't miss this:
http://www.chronicle.com/article/When-Big-Ideas-Go-Bad/238544?key=yop9k7-B1QiWD6aZpWTJrwQaFFjhgu-cumdsNS97tdI-aTlXSFvHWZIy2iA1Y0UfSDdsb1ZES1NjYnd5QTllSDNlSG9LVjAzRUl3NVNrVGZhUzRMSWJ5Q1BGdw QUOTE: Reader-recommended film: Admiral (2015) A decent film about an important historical figure. Well worth watching. Yes, a very important historical figure but a preposterous movie. Sailing ships sail against the wind,Admiral s run about crying"pull De rope";17th century English kings inhabit palaces with 19th century furniture and a host of other historical preposterousness .
QUOTE: Free Speech is the Most Effective Antidote to Hate Speech Sure, but be warned: "Falsehood flies, and the Truth comes limping after it; so that when Men come to be undeceiv’d, it is too late; the Jest is over, and the Tale has had its Effect." — Jonathan Swift QUOTE: Is the US, Health Jobs Grow 1.5 Times Faster Than Non-Health Jobs That's the desired outcome. The U.S. population is aging, and there is a shortage of healthcare providers. Most of medical inflation is due to the fact that medical care (along with education) is still mostly "made by hand," that is, still requires one-on-one interactions. QUOTE: It’s a new record: Americans not participating in the labor force nears 100 million About a third of the increase in non-participation is due to the aging population, about a third due to increased education attainment among the young. Most of the balance is due to the lingering effects of the Great Recession. The MSM created and are the major purveyors of fake news. Walter Duranty's Potemkin villages was fake news; Walter Cronkite's Vietnam reporting was fake news; Watergate was fake news; Bush's military document was fake news...
Fake News is simply the label the MSM has created for anything that doesn't agree with their narrative. Phil G: Walter Cronkite's Vietnam reporting was fake news;
What was fake? Phil G: Watergate was fake news What was fake? Phil G: Bush's military document was fake news... That was retracted, which is the appropriate standard. I bet less than 1% of the population know that G Gordon Liddy committed the Watergate breakin to expose criminal activity by the DNC. It absolutely was illegal for him to do this even to expose criminal activity by the DNC. Just as it was illega for Daniel Ellsberg to steal top secret papers from Pentagon files and publish them. But our opinion and the treatment of these two crimes are very different.
Of course what Watergate was really all about politically was the stupid choice of the Nixon administration to hide this from the public, just as Obama is hiding what he has done with illegal immigrants and refugees. For this Nixon paid the price. The coverup was stupid and everyone involved paid a price for that mistake. However it is also true that when Liddy decided to try to expose the crimes of the DNC he did so on his own. Nixon and his administration had no knowledge of it and didn't approve or condone it. That too is somehow unknown by most of the public. Were their lies told about Watergate, the administration and Nixon by the Democrats and the media? ABSOLUTELY! Phil G: Bush's military document was fake news...
Z: That was retracted, which is the appropriate standard http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/la-en-dan-rather-truth-20151229-story.html Not according to the guy who reported it. "We reported a true story," says one of the most illustrious figures in American journalism, "and everybody connected with the story got fired. The process was not perfect but the story was true." Christopher B: Not according to the guy who reported it.
Um, he doesn't work there anymore. "Phil G: Bush's military document was fake news...
That was retracted, which is the appropriate standard." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Not until they got caught by a sharp-eyed poster at the deplorable right-wing site FreeRepublic. And the denial that the document was faked goes on to this day, despite conclusive analysis showing it was made on a modern computer using Word. Jim: the denial that the document was faked goes on to this day
The usual argument is that the underlying story is accurate even if the document is not authentic. But some do argue the document itself is authentic, and we can consider this to be "fake news". However, the authenticity of the document is not being propagated by the mainstream news as was claimed by Phil G above, but repudiated. That's the difference. You show me where the Main Street media repudiated the document? Heck, they all got together with HBO and made a fake news movie about it! They even had the audacity to call the movie "Truth", what crap.
Go on over to Power Line blog, read about the whole fake business: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/lies-of-truth-revisited.php Don't forget folks, most of the people working for the four or five big media names are friends, or related to each other by marriage, or worked together in a democrat administration. Look up thier bio's. As Glen Reynolds says, "democrat operatives with by lines." Limbaugh has documented these media people using the same talking points, word for word, for many years. Trust nothing that they tell you. Guaranteed, we would not be having a discussion about fake news if Hillary would have won the election.
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B Hammer
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2016-12-06 18:15
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The Tet Offensive was a great defeat for America was fake news
GI war crimes was fake news Vietnamese prefering8 the Viet Cobg was fake news Phil G: The Tet Offensive was a great defeat for America was fake news
The Tet Offensive showed that U.S. government claims that the enemy could no longer mount a significant offensive was false. The government had been misleading the American people about the course of the war, and would continue to do so until the U.S. finally withdrew. Phil G: GI war crimes was fake news "There is a long ditch in the village of My Lai. On the morning of March 16, 1968, it was crowded with the bodies of the dead—dozens of women, children, and old people, all gunned down by young American soldiers." Phil G: Vietnamese prefering8 the Viet Cobg was fake news "I have never talked or corresponded with a person knowledgeable in Indochinese affairs who did not agree that had elections been held as of the time of the fighting, possibly 80 per cent of the population would have voted for the Communist Ho Chi Minh as their leader" — President Dwight Eisenhower. The Tet offensive was a suicide mission where the NVA sent 10's of thousands of young men to death in the hope that our MSM would ignore the lop-sided deaths and only report the American deaths. True to their biases the American MSM did indeed report only American deaths and declared the Tet offensive to be a North Vietnamese victory.
I don't know if South Vietnamese would vote or choose to be under North Vietnamese rule or not. I do know that after the North took over a couple million were killed outright by the North. So what would there answer be today if you could ask them? The Vietnam war was a mistake by a young inexperienced president whose father bought the votes to get him elected and who never had the chops to be president of anything. Later all made worse by the most politically dishonest president in history; LBJ. Sadly for LBJ if Hillary had been elected he would have been pushed down to the second most politically dishonest president ever. Luckily for Carter, Obama's election reduced him to the second worst president ever in history. And Obama isn't done yet. God knows what he is doing in secret to harm us more.
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IdahoBob
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2016-12-07 10:05
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IdahoBob: The Tet offensive was a suicide mission where the NVA sent 10's of thousands of young men to death in the hope that our MSM would ignore the lop-sided deaths and only report the American deaths.
It was an all-out offensive showing that the enemy was capable of mounting a significant attack, contrary to assurances given by the U.S. government. IdahoBob: I don't know if South Vietnamese would vote or choose to be under North Vietnamese rule or not. The Geneva Accords of 1954 promised national elections, but they were never held because Ho Chi Minh would have won those elections. IdahoBob: The Vietnam war was a mistake So there it is.
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Zachriel
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2016-12-07 10:13
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IdahoBob: I do know that after the North took over a couple million were killed outright by the North.
Most scholars place those outright killed by the communists in the low thousands, perhaps 100,000 died in labor camps, and about 250,000 died on boats trying to escape. Compare to the aftermath of the U.S. Revolution. About 100,000 Tories escaped to Canada, from a much smaller population. This doesn't include retribution against the Indian tribes or blacks who sided with the British.
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Zachriel
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2016-12-07 10:35
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The Bush fake news story was launched by the King of MSM, Dan Blather, er, Rather. Perhaps he didn't know it was fake, but the people who createdv it did. The final argument was admittance the document might have been fake but it was still true. Fake News all the way.
Phil G: The Bush fake news story was launched by the King of MSM, Dan Blather, er, Rather. Perhaps he didn't know it was fake, but the people who createdv it did.
Rather was forced out, and the story retracted. Scientists will continue to mix science with politics as long as politics funds them. Another source of fake news.
RE: Music posts. Please consider this young girl and her amazing guitar talent for Maggies Farm.
Tina S cover of 'For The Love Of God' - by Steve Vai - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJi8iSpzq9I I didn't watch Rabbi Sacks 'On Leonard Cohen...' but I'd recommend reading Leonard's own rabbi's farewell http://www.jewishjournal.com/religion/article/being_leonard_cohens_rabbi
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