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Saturday, December 3. 2016
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Not the natural gas one that delivers free gas to head their house!
that one! that one! because the Science is Settled.
Is not the Standing Rock issue over sacred land? I have a 72yo friend who recently went out there and spent a week, inside the encampment . interesting tale he now tells .
But, come on, it's not like they're building it through a church.
I am reminded of an online discussion I had with a Muslim comparing Vatican City and Saudi Arabia. There are no Muslims permitted to practice their religion in Vatican City, and similarly Christians are not permitted to practice their religion in Saudi Arabia.
I replied that Vatican City has 110 acres and
While I wrote the whole story and posted it , somehow it didn't get posted.
I replied that Vatican City has 110 acres and < 1000 people, while Saudi Arabia has 800,000 square miles and 30 million people. So, your comparing Vatican City to Saudi Arabia isn't valid.
But Saudi Arabia is holy, came the reply.
I flew into and out of spots in Saudi Arabia for years, many years ago, in bone-chilling winter and lethal heat of summer. Believe me, several antonyms of holy describes it better.
I have known people who worked in Saudi. They would also use that particular antonym to describe the place. They didn't use many complimentary words to describe Saudi.
Kemosabe, a church is a kind of building the wasi'chu use.
non-indigenous he is, my friend, yes . actually he was banned to the big tent, preparing coffee and tea for the front and such activities during his stay . never-the less, sometimes the little people need to win .
the Little People will have their day, just not this day.
Picture coming from here: http://mostlycajun.com/wordpress/?p=32626
They're protesting any pipeline which doesn't deliver the oil, gas, and natural gas they want to use.
Under the most cherished creek in Montana in the neighborhood of some of the wealthiest residents we have this:
Blue City Missoula in epic battle vs muddy water. None of us Montanan Deplorable s give jack about Missoula.
Sacred land? I'd be less skeptical if someone could show me an alternative route that didn't somehow trigger the "sacred land" objection. It seems an awfully flexible designation. If you want to declare a whole region sacred and untouchable, you'd better have a good army on it.
This is a bunch of rabble rousers who are being lead by dedicated Marxist/communist groups. It isn't about sacred land or Indian artifacts. It is about the disruption of America by people who hate America.
And the tribal leaders holding out for bigger royalty checks.
You know these projects are years in the works with many meetings, paperwork, environmental studies. Sometimes a decade. Maybe they should have said something then instead if squatting on land not theirs polluting it and killing local livestock.
The tribe had chance to buy the land in question and didn't. They didn't worry about how sacred it was until the pipeline route was being discussed.
I was driving north through New Jersey one time, and the Interstate took us right through a graveyard. Headstones and markers were dense on the grounds to the left and right of the highway, but the highway went straight through the cemetery, someone's sacred land. I don't think the highway builders or the feds worried about the sensibilities of mere believers, agnostics, and atheists regarding where their kith and kin were buried.
When I lived in Hawaii, the locals were in high dudgeon because a highway was in the planning to go through what was suspected to have been, a long time ago, possibly, maybe, a burial area or holy area of some unspecified kind. Halted construction while they determined the degree and applicability of holiness.
And from what I've read, this pipeline location is where several pipelines already are, running under the same waterway, following the same path.
The graveyard (dating back to the 1700s) near where I lived as a kid has been cut back to allow for homesites.
Indian holy sites deserve the same consideration as sites many of the rest of us consider holy or special or sacred.
Seems the department of the Army, has put a stop to this pipeline crossing under Lake Oahe
Sometime in the future there will be recognition that people are not required, moreover degenerative to the progress of mankind. Hopefully that occurs before the whole earth becomes a cesspool and the human population reaches 9-10 billon.
Increase your knowledge, skills, and value folks or be passed by the times and / or society.
With that said, how many more pipelines are required, among other??? Enough is enough.