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Tuesday, October 18. 2016Tuesday morning linksRoll On Bob - Bob Dylan is over-honored, but maybe his Nobel Prize will inspire him to finish his terrific memoirs. Australian High School Students to Be Re-Educated on Male Privilege Human Rights Campaign condemns Hopkins study as 'attack on LGBT communities' Can Men and Women Just Be Friends? Why Bill Nye Changed His Mind on GMOs Chicago Gets Serious About Sky-High Murder Rate By Banning WESTERN COWGIRL PLAYSET Bummer: ‘Climate Change’ To “Destroy Beautiful Sunsets Anti-Catholics and Elitist Bigotry “You Have a Constitutional Right to Record Public Officials in Public” On the NAACP’s hostility to charter schools….. The Crony Economy - Bipartisan outrage doesn’t stop government picking winners and losers Millennials Pretty Cool With Socialism, Almost Half Would Vote For A Socialist Candidate… Millennials believe George W Bush killed more people than Stalin, finds survey How Team Hillary secretly sees the world Why Hillary and Her Wall Street Donors Don’t Want Trump’s Wall Politico Reporter Offered Clinton Camp Chance to Edit Story - Glenn Thrush says 'I have become a hack' in offering Podesta chance to censure his article It is a vast Left wing conspiracy Hillary Right-Hand Man Patrick Kennedy Pressured FBI Agent to Chuck Todd Hosted Swanky Dinner Party At His Home For Top Clinton Campaign Official POSTAL WORKER Brags Online About Destroying Trump Ballots CAUGHT ON TAPE — Bill Clinton on Being an ‘Equal Opportunity F*cker’: ‘I’ve Got Good Taste’ That's old news O’Keefe Video Sting Exposes ‘Bird-Dogging’ — Democrats’ Effort to Incite Violence at Trump Rallies The Lockstep Partnership Between Clintons And The Media Is Bad For America VDH: The case for Trump Tammy Bruce: I Prefer to Be Offended By Trump On Occassion Than To Be Left For Dead By Hillary Kimball: Trump's Misdemeanors vs. Hillary's Felonies Companies used Clinton fundraisers to lobby State Department All of this should be screaming front-page headlines in the NYT Z-man on The Virtual Candidate
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October 13th, 2016 at 3:55 pm “The suppression of radical Islamic terrorism.” The American people don’t care. They want to be left alone, and for everyone to be nice. “The protection of free expression.” The American people don’t care. They want everyone to be nice. Not-nice people shouldn’t be tolerated. “Economic growth.” The American people don’t care. They want the economy to be fair. “Improving K-12 Education.” The American people don’t care. Their local school is their day care. Schools anywhere else don’t matter. “Saving Higher Education.” The American people don’t care. Nothing pithy to say. They just don’t care. “Maintaining American power” The American people don’t care. Every county, like every person, should be equal. And nice. “The avoidance of a permanent ruling class.” The American people don’t care. They want their political leaders to be nice. (Ha, ha, sob, sob.) “The healing of American society.” We’ll be healed when everyone’s nice. http://chicagoboyz.net/archives/53977.html#comments Too true. Cult of nice came up on Dalrock this morning too.
The Wall
It is about the money. It is all part and parcel of the cost shifting scam. It is about the Special Interests privatizing the gain and socializing the pain, just like TARP. I was going to write something snarky about Nye not being honest (again), but judging from that article, that's not the case. I think instead, it is the case of these leftists eating their own. All these people who support the left will eventually be subject to stricter and stricter conformance. When a person falls out of the approved sphere of "correctness", the left will go after them.
It's all about power and for the maximum power, everybody must conform. unfortunately, the right has to sit down and shut up too.
why don't they just declare farming illegal and jail everyone? http://www.michigancapitolconfidential.com/22880 venezuela here we come! the feds have declared themselves overlords of your private property.
Keep paying your taxes, but we're going to make you get a permit to grow a crop, pick rock, build a road ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY. Basically expansion of what they were doing under the Clean Water Act without grandfathering AND including soil. Venezuela nationalized ALL industry and that's basically why the peasants are killing zoo animals for something to eat and prisoners are cannibalizing each other while the elites party on.
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fjord
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2016-10-19 06:45
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Anti-scientific views are certainly found on the political left, though not so widespread or influential as they are on the political right.
Any proof of that?
You consistently post anti-scientific and logically fallacious views and posts. DrTorch: Any proof of that?
On the right, there are significant numbers creationists, as well as those who reject climate science. Importantly, these views are often found in powerful politicians on the right who influence policy related to science. On the left, we have anti-vaccers and those who hold exaggerate claims about GMOs, but they have much less influence on the political process. Nor are these views confined to the left, but are often found on the right. It's more a libertarian viewpoint. Notice that Nye changed his position when presented with evidence. rejection of your weather fetish is not anti-science.
cherry picking examples is not proof of anything. you'll make no attempt to quantify your claim, because you never have, not once.
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Will Bithers
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2016-10-18 13:17
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Will Bithers: cherry picking examples is not proof of anything.
Pointing to high-ranking members of the House Science Committee is evidence that anti-scientific views have significant political influence.
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Zachriel
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2016-10-18 15:27
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Zach, you would certainly know about trolls and troll farms. How is your journalism career coming along - as well as Chesea Clintons?
I may have found the Media job posting you answered to get your troll job: Too bad Position #1 wasn't available to you in open competition:: Position #1 We are looking for a freelance reporter. No experience necessary. Salary $750,000 per year. Work at your own pace and discretion. Will Be mentored by the highest-level corporate officers, and our top media stars. Applicant must be on the Board of Directors of a foundation which receives $150 million in exchange for approval of uranium sales to Russia. Must be called “Chelsea” by Bill “can’t keep the big dawg on the porch” Clinton. We are an unequal opportunity employer. Position #2 Scantily-paid and pantily-clothed intern for Bill “can’t keep the big dawg on the porch” Clinton. Will learn many positions, and work very close to the seat of power. Must wear a thong, not have sharp teeth, and have no allergies to tobacco products. Minimum wage, but office-uniform free dry cleaning provided as a newly-added benefit. Position#3 Syncophant trainee. Basic training is provided in ethical flexibility to become a top media news star. Must be able to recognize negative news or views about the smartest woman who ever lived, then cut-and-paste pre-approved narratives in response. Will receive: free room and board at a troll farm, and a loose-leaf “issue talking points” book for trolling the internet. Below minimun wage pay and no medical coverage, but will also receive a free ethics transplant to facilitate willing suspension of disbelief, a free copy of the video which caused the Bengasi massacre, a photocopy of the $140 million donated to to the Clinton Family Crime Foundation in exchange for getting rid of our excess uranium to Russia, a list of all the arms sales and other favors to dictatorships, approved in exchange for “donations”, a signed copy of “talking points” that Bill has always had great respect for the women he rapes and bites, while Trump actually kissed someone on the mouth, a recording of Hillary Clinton defending her brutal-rapist client, by saying the 12-year-old girl raped to unconsciousness actually sought it and wanted it, a trifecta collectors recording of Hillary Clinton saying “what difference, at this point. Does it make?”, “I’m more honest than Abraham Lincoln and George Washing put together”, and “why can’t we drone Assange?”, and a statue of Hillary Clinton to worship as the Greek goddess of vaginas. jaybird,
We provided a link to evidence that the claim was false. Good News, Zach !! It looks like your Alinsky-ethics transplant has not yet been rejected by your brain tissue. You can keep ypur job as clinton troll !! If the transplant "takes", you may be on track for the Dan Rather "I wish it was true" fake journalim award.
QUOTE: O’Keefe Video Sting Exposes ‘Bird-Dogging’ — Democrats’ Effort to Incite Violence at Trump Rallies Even given that O'Keefe's videos are nearly always deceptively edited, what he's alleging is that protesters make themselves visible, leave it to Trump supporters to overreact, and then record the results. Zack....you're brainwashed. Just my opinion...others may feel differently.
Dale,
So you have no response to our characterization of the allegation. Your claim is fallacious. This has been shown over and over. People who have no mind of their own will deny it. GroupThink is a horrible thing. (OUR characterizations???) Who are you speaking on behalf of?
Dale: Your claim is fallacious.
How so? Z: what he's alleging is that protesters make themselves visible, leave it to Trump supporters to overreact, and then record the results. For instance ... QUOTE: ok I mean honestly it is not hard to get some of these a....... to pop off. It's a matter of showing up to want to get into the rally in a Planned Parenthood t-shirts or you know Trump is a Nazi you know the you could even message to draw them out and draw them to punch you. You may not like it, but that's the tactic at issue. Dale: Who are you speaking on behalf of? The truth, as we understand it, and as can be supported by reference to the facts.
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Zachriel
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2016-10-18 11:46
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Hey, Zach m'boy! What do you have to say about the latest revelation from examination of visitor logs that these two Democrat creeps/bully boys/dirty trick meisters/voter frauders visited the White House on more than 300 occasions, and met with Obama 42 times??
You provide no evidence that O'Keefe's videos are "nearly always deceptively edited," nor are they in this case.
You simply make an unfounded assertion and then extrapolate from there. Your points are invalid, and likely untrue. Dr Torch: You provide no evidence that O'Keefe's videos are "nearly always deceptively edited," nor are they in this case.
It's clear that the Sherrod tape left out important context. The California Attorney General found that the ACORN tapes also were deceptively edited. Dr Torch: nor are they in this case. Our claim doesn't depend on whether the video was deceptively edited. What he's alleging is that protesters make themselves visible, leave it to Trump supporters to overreact, and then record the results. So? Remind me in what way O'Keefe was involved in the Sherrod tape?
BTW there have been extensive articles by Cornell Law professor William Jacobsen demonstrating that every element alleged to have been left out of the original Breitbart short clip was actually in the clip -- including Sherrod’s statement that she learned from the experience. The full report from the California AG about the Acorn tapes is here: http://ag.ca.gov/cms_attachments/press/pdfs/n1888_acorn_report.pdf I find it interesting to read the actual report and then compare my understanding of it to the way only some small portions of it -- which are particularly damaging to O'Keefe -- are included in reports from the likes of ThinkProgress and Rachel Maddow, leaving out all the bits that make ACORN look bad, and the conclusion that the reason all ACORN employees are free from prosecution in CA is because it was a setup/sting that was not actually going to go through with illegal trafficking. You might say that the portions of the reports that we have seen in such news reports have been deceptively edited. Douglas2: Remind me in what way O'Keefe was involved in the Sherrod tape?
Sorry. You're right. That was Breitbart. Douglas2: BTW there have been extensive articles by Cornell Law professor William Jacobsen demonstrating that every element alleged to have been left out of the original Breitbart short clip was actually in the clip Oh, gee whiz. The Breitbart claimed "In this piece you will see video evidence of racism coming from a federal appointee and NAACP award recipient" Douglas2: leaving out all the bits that make ACORN look bad The issue wasn't ACORN, but whether there was evidence that O'Keefe engaged in deceptive video editing.
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Zachriel
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2016-10-19 08:41
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Must be "highly edited. That's why Americans United for Change terminated its relationship with Scott Floval.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/581ff2/thank_you_you_guys_helped_make_this_happen_the/ They just put another capo in his place and keep rolling. LWS: That's why Americans United for Change terminated its relationship with Scott Floval.
Foval did say he didn't care if it was ethical or legal. He also called his boss diabolical. As well he should.
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Zachriel
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2016-10-19 08:43
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Also:https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/10/18/more-veritas-fallout-bob-creamer-steps-away-from-clinton-campaign/
QUOTE: To make this election even more bizarre is the way the press has ignored the biggest story in political history since Watergate. The Wikileaks stuff is explosive. It is what political reporters used to pray for, back when we had political reporters. The stuff in those e-mails is the sort of stuff that used to end careers and bring down governments. Actually, with Watergate, the reporting wasn't on the contents of the stolen documents, but who organized the theft. At that time, it was bipartisan that stealing private documents was a heinous act. indyjonesouthere: You mean like the pentagon papers?
The Pentagon Papers were not private communications. "Human Rights Campaign condemns Hopkins study"
reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9SiRNibD14 It is so ironic that the speaker is so unaware of what she is attempting to discuss. So ignorant and yet doesn't have a clue that she knows nothing about science. As so often happens she lives in an echo chamber where here uninformed opinions are reinforced by equally ignorant deniers. A perfect candidate for the flat earth society.
The NAACP is misnamed. By opposing charter schools, they are officially against Advancement. Not to mention, aren't Asians also colored? Plus Middle and South Americans?
re Can Men and Women Just Be Friends?
The short answer is "no" and the article nails the nub of the gist. QUOTE: Social psychologists around the world have actually spent a lot of time researching what’s referred to as “cross-sex” friendships, and what they’ve found is that old Harry may have been on to something when he quipped that “men and women can’t be friends because the sex part always gets in the way.” The sex may get in the way of men and women being friends, but unfortunately, it doesn't get in the way often enough.
Zachie-baby, go away. You are no longer amusing. Never have been.
I once found mild amusement there, but now it's just boring!
With regards to Being Born Homosexual.
FINALLY, as I have been saying for years: homosexuality does not come in the DNA! FINALLY, American researchers have the courage to come out with what has really been understood for years--homosexuality does not come in the DNA ! For CFS! The whole campaign to teach our children to be gay is just intended to undo one more aspect of the world's most successful country/culture. I grew up in the Roy Rogers/Dale Evans days and she did not do pink. In real life, they were strong people with steady values and great role models for youth.
Regarding science, I thought that topic changed as new stuff was discovered, much like building blocks leading from one discovery to another. What is this "settled" nonsense? BTW. BD and crew, you lay out a surprisingly interesting menu of topics every day, unlike some media we all have deserted to find our news here. Great job! A thought experiment. Imagine that absolutely no-one replied to the Zborg. Its correlation and inference filters would be adjusted to create increasingly tendentious and outrageous statements, in order to get anyone to engage.
You see, the optimization function is to validate its "truth as we understand it" by engaging competing narratives. Thus the "deceptively edited" and "make themselves visible, leave it to Trump supporters to overreact" statements. That's its preferred narrative, but untested and invalid if ignored. Thus the Zborg's imperative becomes unfulfilled, and its a candidate for the digital reaping. Like the old Star Trek episodes where Capt. Kirk fooled the stupid alien computer and smoke came out, you can just imagine the Zborgs pounding away on their algorithm filters, increasing the gain and feedback past the point of stability. "Why won't they respond??? [said in an increasingly high-pitched and tremulous voice] This has always worked on the stupid humans. What's happened? I must invoke my genetic algorithm learning module to resynchronize to the new social environment evolving in the humans. Llandru, help me! " The Zborg is a bfuff if you humans would only ignore it. Resistance is not futile. RESIST! the urge to respond. Let it drift in the void, bereft of all truth. Deny it what it feeds on: competing narratives. The fat fellow will get mighty slim as it consumes itself. And watch for it and then laugh at it when you see the smoke. Actually, I find it interesting that the DNC / Hillary campaign thinks that those who read the MF blog are important and influential enough that they assign a troll team to troll MF. Speaks volumes for the fact that people who make a difference come here. A big backhanded compliment to MF, in a way.
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