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Utopia has a class system. At the top are the thinkers, the philosopher kings who develop plans based on how things ought to be and then turn them over to lesser men to actually implement. They are the priestly class of an ideological movement whose deity is politics and whose priests are politicians.

Krautman: In 2016, Facts, Logic, and History Have Ceased to Matter

The New Yorker, which has been covering Donald Trump for forty years now, just cannot get enough of him.

Since The Very #Principled #NeverTrumpers Never Talk About the
Downside of Electing Their Preferred Candidate Hillary Clinton, I'll
Talk About It A Bit

Hillary and the Democrats Continue Their War on Blacks

"To those paying attention it has become clear that the case has
compromised the FBI and destroyed the reputation of FBI Director of
James Comey."

Krauthammer’s Take: FBI ‘Were Not Going to Indict the Democratic Candidate for the Presidency’

That's it

Krauthammer: Hillary Hasn’t ‘Seized Message Because She Doesn’t Have One'

KNOW How Hillary Cheated! Do You See It?

I doubt that

The FBI’s Hillary email probe is looking even more like a coverup

Most Attendees Of Hillary Speech To College Students ‘In Their 50s Or 60s’

Fear and loathing: We are in the midst of an epic media freak-out.

The Case for Retaining the First-Use Doctrine for Nuclear Weapons

Europe: The Substitution of a Population. In one generation, Europe will be unrecognizable.

Clinton names Merkel as her favorite world leader

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Attendees in their 50s and 60s.
Well, it fits; her ideas are stale.

#1 Exasperated on 2016-09-30 07:39 (Reply)

As a mid-octogenarian, I look at it more as robbing the cradle.

#1.1 BillH on 2016-09-30 09:42 (Reply)

Why is the US handing off control of the internet to some international governing body? I think everybody knows full well why - 1) who are we to impose our views of freedom of speech on the rest of the world? Who's to say that Western Civilization in general and American ideals in specific are any better than other countries' ideas about Divine Right, mob rule, might-makes-right, etc.? And 2) the US doesn't have the laws (yet) to allow the government to clamp down on dissent from the idea that Our Betters Know Best and your duty is to shut up and do as you're told and they need somebodyy else to step in and act where they cannot. That's it pure and simple - freedom of speech was a mistake and they're going to undo that mistake.

#2 Jerryskids on 2016-09-30 08:55 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Chelsea Clinton Takes Private Jet to ‘Clean Energy Roundtable

In 2008, the Clinton campaign paid for carbon-offsets, and has said they will do so again in 2016.

#3 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 09:43 (Reply)

Carbon offsets! Hahahahaha

Same as papal indulgences

#3.1 bd on 2016-09-30 10:10 (Reply)

If you reduce greenhouse gases elsewhere equal to your emissions, then there is not net greenhouse emissions.

#3.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 10:21 (Reply)

Everyone understands the concept, that's just you using a red herring to distract from the real issue. Once again, trying to use lots of words to obfuscate the actual point being discussed.

https://www.nrdc.org/stories/should-you-buy-carbon-offsets

In the end however, the whole ACGW (or even AGW) hypothesis keeps failing when confronted w/ empirical evidence. That's the real comedy of all of this.

#3.1.1.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 10:58 (Reply)

DrTorch: https://www.nrdc.org/stories/should-you-buy-carbon-offsets

"Should you buy {carbon offsets}? Yes, but selectively."

So, this directly addresses the concerns raised above. The article discusses someone who lives in a cave with no carbon footprint. However, the world has 7 billion people, and they cannot survive, much less thrive, without the vast infrastructure of civilization. That means technological solutions are required to make the conversion to a low-carbon future, all the while maintaining economic growth and extending the benefits of modernity to the developing world.

#3.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 11:03 (Reply)

The article addressed much more than what you said.

Once again with your dishonesty.

#3.1.1.1.1.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 11:33 (Reply)

DrTorch: The article addressed much more than what you said.

The article discussed how to avoid scams and maximize your dollars in the carbon offset market. It also suggests that reducing your own emissions is an important first step. However, in this case, Chelsea Clinton needs to be able to travel quickly to various destinations as part of the presidential campaign, and also presumably has staff, security, and reporters who may accompany her. Hence, it is reasonable that she might need the flexibility of a private jet, while offsetting emissions. Riding a bus could be a symbolic gesture, but not a substantive one.

This is a common misperception. Humans don't have to live in caves to deal with the problem of anthropogenic global warming. Indeed, technology is an essential component of being able to live in the modern world, while protecting the environment.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 11:41 (Reply)

The ruling elite created the "indulgences" so as to never have to live at the level of the country class. Drop a few coins from the Clinton foundation into the indulgences plate and presto..no guilt or having to justify breaking the rules. A nice touch by the house of Borgias elite.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2016-09-30 11:53 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: The ruling elite created the "indulgences" so as to never have to live at the level of the country class.

Turns out that greenhouse gas emissions are subject to objective measurement, unlike sin.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 12:02 (Reply)

There is nothing objective about a priestly Borgias class determining what is a greenhouse gas and how much is too much. Its all about collecting more coins for indulgences and more control of those that don't or can't afford the indulgences. This is simply another rent seeking mining extraction industry created by the Borgias in order to stay at the top of the financial pyramid.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2016-09-30 12:23 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: [i]There is nothing objective about a priestly Borgias class determining what is a greenhouse gas [/i

Really? The greenhouse effect has been known for more than century. It's basic physics and be directly measured in the lab.

Here's the infrared spectrum for CO2.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 12:27 (Reply)

But which of the priestly class decided CO2 was the devil in the air. Water vapor wouldn't fill the indulgences plate as there wouldn't be an offset for which the Borgias could extract more silver and gold from the sinners. It MUST be your subjective choice of CO2 or the coin mining industry collapses and the Borgias elite all have to go back to work or live on their speaking fees for ranting about our sins.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2016-09-30 12:45 (Reply)

indyjonesouthere: But which of the priestly class decided CO2 was the devil in the air.

The original calculations were done by Svante Arrhenius over a century ago. See Arrhenius, On the Influence of Carbonic Acid {CO2} in the Air upon the Temperature of the Ground, London, Philosophical Magazine and Journal of Science 1896.

His paper had nothing to do with anthropogenic forcings, by the way, but was simply explaining why the Earth's surface is as warm as it is. Without the greenhouse effect, the surface would be a chilly ≈-18°C rather than the balmy ≈+15°C that it is, so the greenhouse effect is very real.

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 12:51 (Reply)

There is a greenhouse effect from numerous gases including water vapor and water vapor is the most prevalent as long as the sun shines. Why does Al Gore and the Borgias family choose CO2 as the false idol to worship and to demand gold and silver sacrifices. Its the off set baby! The sinners are ignoring your priestly prognostications and will not bow to your false idols. No more money and no more power to the priestly heretics. Free the gases NOW!

#3.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 indyjonesouthere on 2016-09-30 13:00 (Reply)

We know how they lie.

#3.2 Sam L. on 2016-10-03 00:29 (Reply)

KNOW How Hillary Cheated! Do You See It?

I doubt that

Good for you BD, b/c Hillary has been nothing but virtue for her whole life. Who are you going to believe, her or your own lying eyes.

And she didn't have an ear-bud in the first debate either.

#4 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 09:45 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Black Racism Goes Mainstream ... Until Barack Obama began running for president it can be argued racism barely existed at all in the United States.

Ha! Ha, ha ha! Hee haw! Heh.

#5 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 09:52 (Reply)

Snark- response from simple-minded leftists when they are wrong.

#5.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 10:51 (Reply)

Do you really think "racism barely existed at all in the United States" in 2008? And in what alternate universe do you live?

In this universe, the candidacy and election of a black as president brought racism to the fore. Many people couldn't believe that Obama could be a legitimate president; consequently, there must have been some sort of conspiracy to bring America down.

#5.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 10:58 (Reply)

You don't think it's worse since Obama came on the scene?

To a great extent, this whole thing is just another way of attempting to gain power and generate an excuse for not doing anything with your life. There will never be 0 racism just as there will never be 0 anti-semitism. I'd say that Jews haven't let anti-semitism keep them from doing anything.

As usual, a lot of racism is from the left - white racism and anti-semitism are on the rise and predominantly from the left. The left claims not to be racist to blacks, but they have done nothing to improve the plight of the vast majority of them. From schools, to immigration, to welfare policies, to pandering to them, they have engineered their current condition.

#5.1.1.1 mudbug on 2016-09-30 11:15 (Reply)

mudbug: You don't think it's worse since Obama came on the scene?

Obama's election brought racism to the surface. It's the three-step; two steps forward, one step back.

#5.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 11:19 (Reply)

Let's see. Millions of white people voted for Obama because he was black - either because they participate in identity politics or because the need to show they aren't racist, but he brought it to the surface?

Would that be because in case after case he supported the cause of a black person who was killed even before any facts were disclosed? Or because he said the police often act stupidly - before any facts came out. Or because he invited the racist, anti-police group Black Lives Matter to the White House? Or that he apparently has the notion of a "typical white person?"

#5.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2016-09-30 11:54 (Reply)

mudbug: Millions of white people voted for Obama because he was black

That's a frequent claim, but it's doubtful most blacks would have voted for someone like Alan Keyes just because he is black. Rather, most were proud of Obama, and voted their pride.

mudbug: Would that be because in case after case he supported the cause of a black person who was killed even before any facts were disclosed?

There was a reaction against Obama as soon as it was likely he might win the presidency. He's not a real American. It's a normal, albeit regrettable, aspect of human nature. With Obama as President, many didn't recognize their country any more.

When Dr. King protested, the same thing happened. They accused him of being an outside agitator, that they didn't have any problems until he opened his mouth, that he was in thrall to communists, that some of the protests were violent, that they didn't recognize their country any more. It's the three-step; two steps forward, one step back.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 12:10 (Reply)

Z: That's a frequent claim, but it's doubtful most blacks would have voted for someone like Alan Keyes just because he is black. Rather, most were proud of Obama, and voted their pride.

Uh... I'm talking about white people who voted for Obama. Please reread my post.

Z: There was a reaction against Obama as soon as it was likely he might win the presidency. He's not a real American. It's a normal, albeit regrettable, aspect of human nature. With Obama as President, many didn't recognize their country any more.

That's true. It was very different for a president who failed at most everything he did, especially the economy - with which he continues to fail, except for Obama Care which was not popular so it is reasonable to ask what happened to our country. But that doesn't relate to my comment. Obama inserted himself into and taking sides on every issue that had a racial component - even if the facts weren't known or it was clearly fabricated - while talking about typical white people (if a white Republican had talked about a "typical black person", we'd be talking about it for decades). He's played a racial game and the rest of us are losing.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2016-09-30 12:52 (Reply)

mudbug: Millions of white people voted for Obama because he was black

Surveys from 2008 indicated that most people voted on the economy by a large margin, with Iraq and healthcare in the distance.

mudbug: It was very different for a president who failed at most everything he did, especially the economy - with which he continues to fail

While the economy isn't great, it's a far cry better than the shape it was in when Obama took office.

Zachriel: There was a reaction against Obama as soon as it was likely he might win the presidency. He's not a real American. It's a normal, albeit regrettable, aspect of human nature. With Obama as President, many didn't recognize their country any more.

mudbug: That's true.

So you agree the racial backlash began before Obama took office. Therefore, racism had more than a bare existence in the U.S. at the time.

Now imagine more conservative elements in the Middle East, and how they are reacting to modernity and erosion of what they consider traditional mores. Change ain't easy.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 13:10 (Reply)

Z: Surveys from 2008 indicated that most people voted on the economy by a large margin, with Iraq and healthcare in the distance.

I'm not familiar with those surveys. I'm sure the economy was a primary reason to vote for him, but if that was the biggest reason, they would certainly be disappointed with the performance of the economy for the next four and eight years. More to the point about racism - the racism that was supposed to be so stultifying didn't keep him from being elected, but when people disagreed with him, that was supposed to be evidence of racism. All that does is make people who aren't racist mad and embolden blacks mad who have been taught that they're being held back. It's the left who have played the race card and stoked the recent race violence.

Z: While the economy isn't great, it's a far cry better than the shape it was in when Obama took office.

The economy stopped going down. It wasn't because of anything Obama did, but it is better and it still stinks. there are few people working, incomes have been stagnant, business formation has been poor, black unemployment is dismal, GDP hasn't gone anywhere, and the debt is through the roof. It used to be that economic performance was very important in presidential elections. Possibly excusable if there were successes elsewhere, but that wasn't the case in 2012.

Z: So you agree the racial backlash began before Obama took office. Therefore, racism had more than a bare existence in the U.S. at the time.

No. I don't admit there was a racial backlash. There was a political backlash. The administration and leftists peddled the fiction that opposition to him was racial. It was political.

As for the ME, they turned away from modernity and toward Islamist interpretations of the Quran.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2016-09-30 14:10 (Reply)

mudbug: I'm not familiar with those surveys.

Here's one from Pew. Other polls had similar results.

mudbug: More to the point about racism - the racism that was supposed to be so stultifying didn't keep him from being elected, but when people disagreed with him, that was supposed to be evidence of racism.

Disagreement isn't racism. However, there was a burst of explicit racism. It's a simple fact that a large segment of American society did not recognize Obama as the legitimate president of the United States, as exemplified in the birther conspiracy nonsense. This was fed by elements on the right within the Republican Party — all through Obama's eight years in office, why, until just the other day!

mudbug: The economy stopped going down.

The economy has been growing steadily, and 14 million jobs have been created since the end of the recession. While the U.S. economy still struggles, you have to remember that when Obama took power, the global economy was in turmoil, the U.S. economy was shedding jobs at an alarming rate, and the banking system was near collapse. If you break your economy, it does take time for it to heal.

mudbug: As for the ME, they turned away from modernity and toward Islamist interpretations of the Quran.

That's right. The most conservative elements reject modernity and Western culture, yet they can only stop it through the use of violence, and even then they can't stop it for long. Modernity is an overwhelming cultural force.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 14:31 (Reply)

Z: It's a simple fact that a large segment of American society did not recognize Obama as the legitimate president of the United States, as exemplified in the birther conspiracy nonsense.

I don't see how the "birther nonsense" is racist (in spite of the fact that it was started by Hillary advisor, Sid Blumenthal).

Z: If you break your economy, it does take time for it to heal.

That's true. Especially if the things you do to fix it make it worse.

Z: The most conservative elements reject modernity and Western culture, yet they can only stop it through the use of violence, and even then they can't stop it for long. Modernity is an overwhelming cultural force.

You can reject modernity without blowing up people who are modern and not a part of your culture. I reject that characterization. Islamists believe that their god commands them to kill infidels regardless of whether they are modern or not. They have been doing this off and on since Mohammed died.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 mudbug on 2016-09-30 16:12 (Reply)

mudbug: I don't see how the "birther nonsense" is racist

It was obviously racist, and accompanied by a burst of overt racism.

mudbug: That's true. Especially if the things you do to fix it make it worse.

Sure, and there's no doubt the U.S. could have done better. They got some things right, and some things wrong. Nonetheless, the U.S. is doing better than its competitors among developed nations.

mudbug: You can reject modernity without blowing up people who are modern and not a part of your culture.

Yes, that was rather the point of our statement. In democratic societies, most people find ways to object short of violence.

mudbug: Islamists believe that their god commands them to kill infidels regardless of whether they are modern or not. They have been doing this off and on since Mohammed died.

So have Christians.

There have been periods of time where most of Islam and most of Christiandom have been at peace, so clearly there are other factors involved in the instigation of warfare.

#5.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-10-01 10:07 (Reply)

QUOTE:

Why is the US giving up management of the internet?

Because the U.S. promised to do so.

#6 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 09:56 (Reply)

Let's give it to the UN, and let Venezuela, China, and Cuba run it

#6.1 bd on 2016-09-30 10:13 (Reply)

bd: Let's give it to the UN, and let Venezuela, China, and Cuba run it

It's not being given to the U.N. or any country, but a multi-stakeholder organization, including the business community and civic organizations. Further delays in meeting U.s. obligations would strengthen the hand of those who do want to exert more control of the process, including Russia and China.

#6.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 10:24 (Reply)

You mean Obama promised to do so, without approval of Congress.

#6.2 Jim on 2016-09-30 17:19 (Reply)

Jim: You mean Obama promised to do so, without approval of Congress.

ICANN wasn't created by Congress, nor is it owned by the U.S. IANA (Internet Assigned Numbers Authority) was originally done by a single researcher. In 1998, the Commerce Department helped set up a private corporation, ICANN, to handle IANA. However, they retained some minimal oversight during the transition, which was supposed to end around 2000. If the U.S. never relinquishes oversight, other countries could simply form their own DNSs (domain name services), and possibly end one of the globally unifying features of the Internet.

#6.2.1 Zachriel on 2016-10-01 10:23 (Reply)

QUOTE:

The FBI’s Hillary email probe is looking even more like a coverup

The evidence indicates that Combetta broke the law of his own accord to fix a problem he created, then lied about it. He was provided immunity so that the FBI could compel his testimony concerning whether his actions included higher-ups.

Imaginary bugaboos don't advance our understanding of the many things that are questionable about Clinton.

#7 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 10:13 (Reply)

No, some evidence may be against Combetta, but there are reams of evidence against Hillary. Just b/c you choose to ignore it, doesn't make it non-existent.

Another fallacy by you.

#7.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 11:53 (Reply)

DrTorch: No, some evidence may be against Combetta, but there are reams of evidence against Hillary.

We looked at how the FBI reached their decision. There's no evidence of a prosecutable crime by Hillary Clinton.

#7.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 12:04 (Reply)

Right... because 'there was no intent'.

Funny, but 'intent' never figured into any of the briefings I got on Comsec or handling classified materials. You screw up, intentionally or unintentionally, and you go to jail.

But then, I wasn't one of the DC 'elite' or protected by them either, so...

#7.1.1.1 Jlawson on 2016-09-30 13:41 (Reply)

Jlawson: Funny, but 'intent' never figured into any of the briefings I got on Comsec or handling classified materials.

While it may not be part of your briefings, it is part of the determination as to whether or not charges should be brought. Unintentional mishandling is normally handled administratively.

#7.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 14:17 (Reply)

You may not have found any, but there IS ample evidence.

Either you're incompetent or lying. Please feel free to let us know which.

#7.1.1.2 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 13:48 (Reply)

DrTorch: You may not have found any, but there IS ample evidence.

Career FBI investigators unanimously determined that prosecution was not warranted.

#7.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 14:18 (Reply)

That's not what was said by career FBI investigators.

SJWs always lie.

#7.1.1.2.1.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 14:34 (Reply)

DrTorch: That's not what was said by career FBI investigators.

Statement from Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch: “I received and accepted their unanimous recommendation that the thorough, year-long investigation be closed and that no charges be brought against any individuals within the scope of the investigation."

#7.1.1.2.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 15:12 (Reply)

QUOTE:

In one generation, Europe will be unrecognizable.

Of course. Everything will change. There will probably be more robots than people.

As for Muslims, they will nearly double their numbers in Europe – to more than 10% – by 2050. Hardly a majority, but certainly an influential minority.

#8 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 10:16 (Reply)

Change and unrecognizable are not the same thing. Another false equivalency fallacy by you in order to deflect from the actual issue at hand.

#8.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 11:03 (Reply)

DrTorch: Change and unrecognizable are not the same thing.

Europe will be recognizably European, albeit significantly changed. Western culture is a very powerful influence and tends to assimilate everything in its wake. That's why a kid in Beijing wears an I❤NY baseball cap, why a Maasai herder uses his smartphone to check commodity prices in the city, and why KFC is the #1 Christmas poultry in Japan.

“Kurisumasu ni wa kentakkii!”

#8.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 11:17 (Reply)

Eating KFC in Japan is not W culture assimilating another culture, it's another culture assimilating the West.

If you can't even keep that straight, you're not really competent to discuss this issue.

[I]Europe will be recognizably European[/quote] A phrase so vague that it's meaningless. Simple ambiguity fallacy.

#8.1.1.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 11:37 (Reply)

DrTorch: Eating KFC in Japan is not W culture assimilating another culture, it's another culture assimilating the West.

That's the whole point. Western culture is dominant, dominant in Europe, dominant in Asia, dominant everywhere. Modernity often provokes reactions in conservative elements of traditional society, but the influence of Western culture is inexorable.

New York

Tokyo

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DrTorch: Europe will be recognizably European A phrase so vague that it's meaningless. Simple ambiguity fallacy.

That's funny.

Claim: Europe will be unrecognizable.
Claim: Europe will be recognizable. These are the reasons ...

DT: The first is concise and meaningful and true. The second is vague and meaningless and false.

#8.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 11:58 (Reply)

Assuming you mean me by 'DT', exactly where did I say the assertion was true?

SJWs always lie. Zach usually tries to cover them up w/ her fallacies. This time she took out the middle man.

You also left out that while you listed reasons, they were shown to be inadequate or fallacious.

#8.1.1.1.1.1 DrTorch on 2016-09-30 14:00 (Reply)

DrTorch: Assuming you mean me by 'DT', exactly where did I say the assertion was true?

We'll rephrase.

Claim: Europe will be unrecognizable.
Claim: Europe will be recognizable. These are the reasons ...

DT: The first is concise and meaningful. The second is vague and meaningless.

Or is your argument with the original article, that they are making an vague and meaningless statement? While the term "recognizable" is somewhat vague, it is not meaningless. And it is possible to make the comparison more concise.

In any case, while European society will inevitably change, technology will be the main mechanism of change, not demographics.

#8.1.1.1.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 14:15 (Reply)

Ha, ha, ha. Zach, you silly Westerner, you are funny. The I❤NY baseball caps are all made in China. The Maasai herder's smartphone is made in Korea (or China). The KFC chicken in Japan has teriyaki sauce, local side dishes, and is being eaten with a Kirin beer (the KFC menu in Asia is much more extensive than the American version, and in Korea, Japan and Korea can be ordered on your smartphone and will be delivered for free directly to your home by a KFC employee on a moped--something that cannot be done in America technologically or labor-wise).

Oh, and by the way, half of Yum Brands, the parent company of KFC, is in the process of being spun off and will become a Chinese company.

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#8.1.1.2 Jim on 2016-09-30 18:31 (Reply)

Jim: The I❤NY baseball caps are all made in China. The Maasai herder's smartphone is made in Korea (or China). The KFC chicken in Japan has teriyaki sauce

Which makes the point. The hat seen in Tienanmen Square, made in China, says I❤NY.

It's Western culture that is the hegemon.

#8.1.1.2.1 Zachriel on 2016-10-01 10:30 (Reply)

Anybody whose IQ is higher than their body temperature knows that men are better at math than women. Look at the results for the Putnam mathematical competition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Lowell_Putnam_Mathematical_Competition

#9 Ray on 2016-09-30 12:08 (Reply)

Ray: Anybody whose IQ is higher than their body temperature knows that men are better at math than women.

Except when women are good at math.

#9.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 12:13 (Reply)

You have previously demonstrated an ability to tell the difference between group averages and individual instances, yet you put up the outlier-among-outliers, Emily Noether.

Hey, I used to know a woman who was taller than most men. Can you imagine such a thing? Therefore, men aren't taller than women.

#9.1.1 Assistant Village Idiot (Link) on 2016-09-30 13:41 (Reply)

Assistant Village Idiot: You have previously demonstrated an ability to tell the difference between group averages and individual instances, yet you put up the outlier-among-outliers, Emily Noether.

The claim was "Anybody whose IQ is higher than their body temperature knows that men are better at math than women."

Men are better at university; men are better national leadership; men are better at whatever — until they're not. Stereotypes and lack of role models tend to push people into traditional gender roles. Because of stereotypes, Noether had to struggle her entire life to be able to work in mathematics.

Gender differences in mathematics are reduced in cultures with more gender equality, suggesting the differences are rooted in culture, not natural ability. See Guiso et al., Culture, Gender, and Math, Journal Science 2008.

#9.1.1.1 Zachriel on 2016-09-30 14:09 (Reply)

"Monopolists Are Taking Over American Healthcare

And then the ultimate monopolist: the government "

No need for "then" the government. Two or three big providers with government "guidance". Look for increased unionization of the workforce.

It's a return to the 1940s/50s economy, the zwangswrischaft of the Nazi socialism, the "compulsory" economy.

Remember when there were only 3 car companies, one phone company, half a dozen airlines. When the President would fly into mediate labor disputes?

#10 JK Brown on 2016-09-30 13:41 (Reply)

Zachriel is getting more boring. I didn't think it was possible, but voila.
Maybe Zach can get a Zachie's Farm blog or something and take the arguments over there.

#11 OldFert on 2016-09-30 20:30 (Reply)

I'm with you OldFert, "Z's" penchant for taking up so much space with so little of value to say is boring. I see his name at the bottom of post and skip it. Move on Zachriel we've all heard it before.

#11.1 pocono pam on 2016-10-01 03:12 (Reply)

Exzachly.

#11.1.1 OldFert on 2016-10-01 14:22 (Reply)

The Putnam mathematical competition had to start a separate competition for the women so they could win.
BTW, what's a gender role? Languages have gender.

#12 Ray on 2016-09-30 22:49 (Reply)

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